3m Striker bid

[boatshed bill]

Is our first team squad in danger of becoming a clique?
Are we only interested in R O I players now?

[ablueclaret]

We need good young players with ambition, not players drawing to the end of their careers, beginning to make me wish SD had gone to Palace.

[SkiptonClaret]

After protracted negotiations We'll sign him, probably on 31 August, until then we have Ash.

[ablueclaret]

for 7 million

[KLClaret]

I don't want him - he's **** at heading based on that picture.

[SGr]

Walters clearly has enough quality, given that the club he's been playing for has survived for the last seven years.

That means little at all. The man scores once every 5 games at best - he's the one who's survived. Not good enough, especially if Gray is leaving this summer.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Great news that ablue and krbfc are against it.

With their track record of getting things wrong it could be a cracking signing.

[SkiptonClaret]

We need good young players with ambition, not players drawing to the end of their careers, beginning to make me wish SD had gone to Palace.

But maybe we can't afford to pay for them, won't pay for them, or our scouting network is unable tolocate them in the first place.
Taylor is a decent start if true.

[SkiptonClaret]

That means little at all. The man scores once every 5 games at best - he's the one who's survived. Not good enough, especially if Gray is leaving this summer.

Glad I'm not the only one who was questioning that particular line of "logic".

[Burnleyareback2]

Why on earth would I want that fat knacker upfront?

Just checking

[SGr]

Being reported that our bid was a 6 figure sum. Now THAT is embarrassing.

Regardless, if Walters is the answer then it's a bloody stupid question. I don't want to hear any b*ll*cks about "unable to compete financially" or "testing the waters". 6 figure sum and bidding for Walters in the first place....is this January 2015 or something??

[FactualFrank]

Is our first team squad in danger of becoming a clique?
Are we only interested in R O I players now?

I'm happy with players that give us a Return of Investment.

[KRBFC]

Being reported that our bid was a 6 figure sum. Now THAT is embarrassing.

Regardless, if Walters is the answer then it's a bloody stupid question. I don't want to hear any b*ll*cks about "unable to compete financially" or "testing the waters". 6 figure sum and bidding for Walters in the first place....is this January 2015 or something??

I just don't think Dyche really knows how to spot a player tbh, particularly forwards. Hennings Juke Sordell Barnes Gray Vossen Long Iwelumo are just a few of the strikers hes signed during his time as a manager. Awful really

[Tall Paul]

Glad I'm not the only one who was questioning that particular line of "logic".

He's been a regular for a midtable PL team for the last seven years. The questionable logic is the suggestion that he doesn't have the required quality to play in a team aiming to survive in the PL.

[SkiptonClaret]

I just don't think Dyche really knows how to spot a player tbh, particularly forwards. Hennings Juke Sordell Barnes Gray Vossen Long Iwelumo are just a few of the strikers hes signed during his time as a manager. Awful really

Steady ! Hennings is coming back to rip up the PL (according to some).

P.S. You forgot Ryan Noble.

[KRBFC]

Steady ! Hennings is coming back to rip up the PL (according to some).

P.S. You forgot Ryan Noble.

Compare with Howe, Austin Ings and Vokes. King at Bournemouth. Feel free to add more to the list.

[Vegas Claret]

did he not sign Gray ?

[SkiptonClaret]

Compare with Howe, Austin Ings and Vokes. King at Bournemouth. Feel free to add more to the list.

Yes, but he got rid of Ash and Scorer.

[Goalposts]

no where near bid 3m, stoke city and walters are alledgedly insulyed by the " in there terms derisory and insulting offer "

[DCWat]

We need good young players with ambition, not players drawing to the end of their careers, beginning to make me wish SD had gone to Palace.

Can't disagree that we need some good young players but we definitely need a balance of youth and experience.

[KRBFC]

Can't disagree that we need some good young players but we definitely need a balance of youth and experience.

Walters is ancient, he looks like a badger

[Jimscho]

I just don't think Dyche really knows how to spot a player tbh, particularly forwards. Hennings Juke Sordell Barnes Gray Vossen Long Iwelumo are just a few of the strikers hes signed during his time as a manager. Awful really

And we are now playing in League 2. He must be doing something right.Just because you can't stand him doesn't make him a bad manager.

[SkiptonClaret]

Can't disagree that we need some good young players but we definitely need a balance of youth and experience.

We've plenty of experience around, we desperately need to add some youth. When Keane goes we won't have a player under 24 starting games.

[KRBFC]

And we are now playing in League 2. He must be doing something right.Just because you can't stand him doesn't make him a bad manager.

I said he cant spot a forward never said he was a bad manager.

[joey13]

He is clearly not good enough, let's hope it's a wind up

[Tall Paul]

Compare with Howe, Austin Ings and Vokes. King at Bournemouth. Feel free to add more to the list.

Zavon Hines, Nathan Delfouneso, Dane Richards, Josh McQuoid.

[KRBFC]

The good news is the bid was rejected

[tiger76]

I said he cant spot a forward never said he was a bad manager.

Thought that was what the scouting team was hired for to recommend players.

[Jimscho]

I said he cant spot a forward never said he was a bad manager.

Never said he was a bad manager.You have been calling for him to be sacked for last few seasons or have you forgotten.

[KRBFC]

Zavon Hines, Nathan Delfouneso, Dane Richards, Josh McQuoid.

Delfouneso you can have, the other three aren't central strikers btw. McQuoid was fine for us Imo.

[DCWat]

We've plenty of experience around, we desperately need to add some youth. When Keane goes we won't have a player under 24 starting games.

We do to an extent, Skipton. But look through our squad, it's not laden with years of premier league experience.

I'm not adverse to one or two wily old heads. I definitely want to see some quality young prospects that we might turn a big profit on, too.

[Tall Paul]

Delfouneso you can have, the other three aren't central strikers btw. McQuoid was fine for us Imo.

Where did you say they had to be central strikers? The thread is about Walters who isn't one either.

[KRBFC]

Where did you say they had to be central strikers? The thread is about Walters who isn't one either.

Well I thought the part where I said "particularly forwards" and then listed central strikers Dyche had signed might have given an indication.

[ksrclaret]

We do need to bring in some younger players, but finding ones with the right experience at the right price is tricky.

Robertson would have been ideal, Taylor is a good signing, the CB at Celtic would be good if and when Keane goes. Beyond that though, we've mainly been linked with older heads.

[Tall Paul]

Well I thought the part where I said "particularly forwards" and then listed central strikers Dyche had signed might have given an indication.

They're all forwards.

[Blackrod]

Some idiotic comments on here. Ok as an option and at that fee. He has looked comfortable in the PL for a long time. Some players never achieve this in the PL despite promise or huge fees.

[KRBFC]

They're all forwards.

Richards is a right midfielder, I'm sure he is, iv never seen him play upfront anyway.

[Tribesmen]

Yep Johnny is the man , would be a very good buy , good in the air and can play out wide .
He would soon become a firm fav at the Turf a real Dyche kind of player and give everything for the team .

[Holtyclaret]

We need good young players with ambition, not players drawing to the end of their careers, beginning to make me wish SD had gone to Palace.

I'd say we need a blend of youth and experience personality.

[KefkaClaret]

Sick of everyone saying we need a blend of youth and experience. Have you seen the age of our squad? Our youngest starter is 24 years old and he's about to leave.

[Right_winger]

We desperately need pace and technical ability not rugged hardworking lumps

[claretspice]

Much like his club and international teammate Glenn Whelan, its the sort of potential signing that can only be judged at the end of the summer once all our recruitment is done.

On its own, it isn't very exciting. He has a bit in common with Barnes in particular style-wise. But I think he's got considerably more pace, and possibly a touch more craft to his game, and he's been operating successfully at this level for the best part of a decade (and he continues to - I think there were some stats in the spring that were posted on here when he was first linked that suggested he'd lost none of his pace or dynamism). As someone else said, he can play wide as well as up front, so he could even replace Boyd in that right side role, particularly if we're looking to play 4-5-1/4-3-3.

And whilst he's a short term signing, if we are planning on signing someone who would be exciting but might take a while to settle in (for example someone like Jacob Murphy, who'd be stepping up from thh Championship, or someone from overseas like the Iranian lad playing in Holland we were linked with some weeks ago), then there's a fair chance we'd be really glad of someone like Walters, who knows exactly what is expected of him, in the meantime.

Open minded about this one.

[TVC15]

As an aside Walters is by all accounts one of the "hardest" blokes in the league !!

As for the signing I`m with Claretspice on this - open minded and we need to look at this in the context of all the other incomings and outgoings we make this summer.

We need a better set of strikers than we have now - and Walters definitely improves what we have now.

For those describing him as slow, old, fat, poor quality you could have guessed beforehand which posters this would be.

Walters has played at a higher level than any of our strikers for a number of years. Seriously do you think a player of your description would have played so many games for a team that has finished consistently in mid table and above in probably the strongest league in the world ? What planet are you on ?

I don`t think many fans are overly excited about signing Walters but at least most can respect his qualities.

[karatekid]

He certainly nose where the ball is judging from that picture

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Much like his club and international teammate Glenn Whelan, its the sort of potential signing that can only be judged at the end of the summer once all our recruitment is done.

On its own, it isn't very exciting. He has a bit in common with Barnes in particular style-wise. But I think he's got considerably more pace, and possibly a touch more craft to his game, and he's been operating successfully at this level for the best part of a decade (and he continues to - I think there were some stats in the spring that were posted on here when he was first linked that suggested he'd lost none of his pace or dynamism). As someone else said, he can play wide as well as up front, so he could even replace Boyd in that right side role, particularly if we're looking to play 4-5-1/4-3-3.

And whilst he's a short term signing, if we are planning on signing someone who would be exciting but might take a while to settle in (for example someone like Jacob Murphy, who'd be stepping up from thh Championship, or someone from overseas like the Iranian lad playing in Holland we were linked with some weeks ago), then there's a fair chance we'd be really glad of someone like Walters, who knows exactly what is expected of him, in the meantime.

Open minded about this one.

Open minded? Is that allowed on this board when it comes to Dyche signing players!!?

Agree with your post by the way.

[LaLigaClaret]

We need someone to score goals and Walters just doesn't do that. Surely there are other strikers we can afford or are we really, really going bargain basement. This is frankly humiliating. Six figures ? To replace Gray, please tell me it isn't true.

[claretspice]

We need someone to score goals and Walters just doesn't do that. Surely there are other strikers we can afford or are we really, really going bargain basement. This is frankly humiliating. Six figures ? To replace Gray, please tell me it isn't true.

Who has suggested he's going to be signed to replace Gray? Or is that just some rather silly assumption youve jumped to?

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

'This is frankly humiliating'

What?

[KRBFC]

Much like his club and international teammate Glenn Whelan, its the sort of potential signing that can only be judged at the end of the summer once all our recruitment is done.

On its own, it isn't very exciting. He has a bit in common with Barnes in particular style-wise. But I think he's got considerably more pace, and possibly a touch more craft to his game, and he's been operating successfully at this level for the best part of a decade (and he continues to - I think there were some stats in the spring that were posted on here when he was first linked that suggested he'd lost none of his pace or dynamism). As someone else said, he can play wide as well as up front, so he could even replace Boyd in that right side role, particularly if we're looking to play 4-5-1/4-3-3.

And whilst he's a short term signing, if we are planning on signing someone who would be exciting but might take a while to settle in (for example someone like Jacob Murphy, who'd be stepping up from thh Championship, or someone from overseas like the Iranian lad playing in Holland we were linked with some weeks ago), then there's a fair chance we'd be really glad of someone like Walters, who knows exactly what is expected of him, in the meantime.

Open minded about this one.

There's being open minded then there's being stupid, like when you were getting all giddy about us signing Juke and Sordell.

[boatshed bill]

Who has suggested he's going to be signed to replace Gray? Or is that just some rather silly assumption youve jumped to?

Spice, let's put it another way:
Would Walters be an improvement on Gray?