Bid rejected for chris wood

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:47 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:So you believe the framework is 9 defenders and 1 up front? Stop digging! In your urge to have a do at Dyche at any given moment you're just embarrassing yourself!

I think Skipton Claret might, just MIGHT have been more than a little tongue in cheek with his 9-1 Winston!

Big_Ears_BFC · Post by **Big_Ears_BFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:49 pm

Chris Wood = another season of hoof ball. We need pace and creativity, and we need to be trying to keep hold of the ball a bit more.

Not happy with this.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:49 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I think Skipton Claret might, just MIGHT have been tongue in cheek with his 9-1 Winston!

I think he does too! But then he went and backed it up saying his 9-1 formation was a success!

mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:52 pm

Wood would be an excellent buy. Possesses everything Vokes has but is faster, younger and has a better goalscoring record.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:52 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Would signing Wood mean goodbye Barnes? Can't imagine he'd get many opportunities with Wood and Vokes in the same squad.

I would rather have Barnes, he has proven he can be a nuisance at this level and does have a habit of scoring important goals.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:54 pm

Marlonspants wrote:We wouldnt pay the fee for Assombalonga so we are not going to pay the fee for Wood.

It doesn't make any sense.

It does if you think that the stumbling block with Assombolonga was probably wages more than fee. SD has alluded to that being an issue on several occasions I think. BUT having said that I can't escape the feeling that we're getting slightly desperate and will seriously pay joke money for a guy who is a SLIGHT upgrade and not greatly different to what we already have, when a few weeks ago we were prepared to play hard ball and then walk away.
I also agree that it may well signal Banes being sold or loaned out if he comes in.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:56 pm

longsidelewis wrote:It will be £20m initial rising to £25m. As I keep saying this is not unreasonable in TODAYS market!

£20mil for Woods or £13 mil for Lucas Perez on a 3yr deal with a 6mil loyalty bonus spread over those 3 years to knock 40K off his wages 3(40x50) = 6mil.

20mil for woods or 19mil for Perez?

Token example of what 20mil could buy us, although I wouldn't want us to step over the 15mil mark for anyone. Not when we have other positions that could or need to be filled with the money in our limited transfer pot. 20mil is a metric crap ton of money for a club like ours, even in TODAYS market.

The best result for me would be, either Huddersfield, Brighton, Crystal Palace or Newcastle stepping in and taking us out of the equation with a bid that we aren't prepared to match. We need a different type of striker than Woods.

Working_Class_Zero · Post by **Working_Class_Zero** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:57 pm

Not sure one this one.
Sounds like a plank.
But would've like to have seen Wood 'n' Barnes in front of The Shed.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:58 pm

Is there a Shed anymore?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:00 pm

out of all the made up nonsense this is the best, Wood at 25 million

longsidelewis · Post by **longsidelewis** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:00 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:£20mil for Woods or £13 mil for Lucas Perez on a 3yr deal with a 6mil loyalty bonus spread over those 3 years to knock 40K off his wages 3(40x50) = 6mil.

20mil for woods or 19mil for Perez?

Token example of what 20mil could buy us, although I wouldn't want us to step over the 15mil mark for anyone. Not when we have other positions that could or need to be filled with the money in our limited transfer pot. 20mil is a metric crap ton of money for a club like ours, even in TODAYS market.

The best result for me would be, either Huddersfield, Brighton, Crystal Palace or Newcastle stepping in and taking us out of the equation with a bid that we aren't prepared to match. We need a different type of striker than Woods.

Perez would never agreee to staying for 3 years. I see where you're coming from but Perez is simply not an SD kind of player

mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:14 pm

Same price as Iheanacho

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:16 pm

Yep all going to the SD script. He simply doesn't trust any players with flair and skill or overseas players.

At least might be useful in the championship next year where we can hoofball it to promotion again.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:19 pm

Right_winger wrote:Yep all going to the SD script. He simply doesn't trust any players with flair and skill or overseas players.

At least might be useful in the championship next year where we can hoofball it to promotion again.

It really is a joy to read your Dyche knocking posts.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:19 pm

We didn't hoof ball it up last time did we?

Ultimately though it doesn't matter if we get the end result we want.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:22 pm

Sidney1st wrote:We didn't hoof ball it up last time did we?

Ultimately though it doesn't matter if we get the end result we want.

Lucky 1-0d it up unbelievably, despite being dominated most games.

Supposed it doesn't matter if you don't attend games anyway.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:24 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:It does if you think that the stumbling block with Assombolonga was probably wages more than fee. SD has alluded to that being an issue on several occasions I think. BUT having said that I can't escape the feeling that we're getting slightly desperate and will seriously pay joke money for a guy who is a SLIGHT upgrade and not greatly different to what we already have, when a few weeks ago we were prepared to play hard ball and then walk away.
I also agree that it may well signal Banes being sold or loaned out if he comes in.

Oh yes Burnley are really desperate that they may pay £15m-£20m for for a player.Burnley don't spend that sort of money in desperation,they will only do it if they think a player is worth it.Its not Monopoly money.Its real money.Why would we get rid of Barnes and leave us with 3 experienced strikers.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:26 pm

We have always been a very direct side under Dyche.
clearly works very well in the championship.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:29 pm

Right_winger wrote:Yep all going to the SD script. He simply doesn't trust any players with flair and skill or overseas players.

At least might be useful in the championship next year where we can hoofball it to promotion again.

So why sign Defour then?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:32 pm

Jimscho wrote:Oh yes Burnley are really desperate that they may pay £15m-£20m for for a player.Burnley don't spend that sort of money in desperation,they will only do it if they think a player is worth it.Its not Monopoly money.Its real money.Why would we get rid of Barnes and leave us with 3 experienced strikers.

Crumbs!!!! I was only speculating that with the type of player I believe Wood to be, we would have 3 very similar options which MIGHT mean one of them is then moved on, OR he (Barnes) might see his game time being greatly reduced and actually ask to move on. Personally, I like Barnes and wouldn't want to see this happen. I think we should be looking at a different kind of striker more in the Gray mould and I was also SUGGESTING that Wood isn't worth chucking 25 million at and would look a very desperate/panic signing at that money.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:33 pm

Not taking a knock at Woods or his skills but he doesn't seem to add much
or anything different to what we may already.
A younger. possibly faster version of Vokes.

Unless of course SD has identified what he thinks might be the best way
we are going to get goals this season.
Crosses from Brady and JBG for either or both Volkes and Woods to get onto?

Just thinking out loud really and hoping we haven't decided on a spray gun
approach and SD getting a touch 'twitchy' and putting pressure on Garlick and has to keep his
options open as we don't seem to know who's coming in up front - Woods, Long those overseas players'?
Clucas( another midfielder?) also.
They all seem to have different strengths.

Just hope it doesn't all go 'tits up' and we end desperately bringing someone in at the last minute
who might only be a 2nd or 3rd choice or unknown.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:34 pm

Right_winger wrote:We have always been a very direct side under Dyche.
clearly works very well in the championship.

Worked well enough last season.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:39 pm

All our present towards would score goals with good service.At Leeds Chris Wood has had excellent service which has helped his goal tally
We have Barnsey .Sam and Jon would can all play loan striker or in a pair.
We need a pacy striker (just like Andre with more skill)we don't need Chris Wood .

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:39 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:£20mil for Woods or £13 mil for Lucas Perez on a 3yr deal with a 6mil loyalty bonus spread over those 3 years to knock 40K off his wages 3(40x50) = 6mil.

20mil for woods or 19mil for Perez?

Token example of what 20mil could buy us, although I wouldn't want us to step over the 15mil mark for anyone. Not when we have other positions that could or need to be filled with the money in our limited transfer pot. 20mil is a metric crap ton of money for a club like ours, even in TODAYS market.

The best result for me would be, either Huddersfield, Brighton, Crystal Palace or Newcastle stepping in and taking us out of the equation with a bid that we aren't prepared to match. We need a different type of striker than Woods.

Who is Woods? He's called Wood. There is no "S" on the end, Heatons Mees Lowtons Hendricks Bradys, are all of our fans really this stupid?

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:41 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Worked well enough last season.

Don't. Feed. The. Troll.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:41 pm

KRBFC wrote:Who is Woods? He's called Wood. There is no "S" on the end, Heatons Mees Lowtons Hendricks Bradys, are all of our fans really this stupid?

Not all, but many.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:42 pm

He's ok but based on Gray's value being in the £11-18m region. Then Wood's value can't exceed that.

He'd strengthen us but wouldn't offer anything new

longsidelewis · Post by **longsidelewis** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:42 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:All our present towards would score goals with good service.At Leeds Chris Wood has had excellent service which has helped his goal tally
We have Barnsey .Sam and Jon would can all play loan striker or in a pair.
We need a pacy striker (just like Andre with more skill)we don't need Chris Wood .

Agyei has got pace to burn. Might be time to give him a chance.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:45 pm

jurek wrote:Not taking a knock at Woods or his skills but he doesn't seem to add much
or anything different to what we may already.
A younger. possibly faster version of Vokes.

Unless of course SD has identified what he thinks might be the best way
we are going to get goals this season.
Crosses from Brady and JBG for either or both Volkes and Woods to get onto?

Just thinking out loud really and hoping we haven't decided on a spray gun
approach and SD getting a touch 'twitchy' and putting pressure on Garlick and has to keep his
options open as we don't seem to know who's coming in up front - Woods, Long those overseas players'?
Clucas( another midfielder?) also.
They all seem to have different strengths.

Just hope it doesn't all go 'tits up' and we end desperately bringing someone in at the last minute
who might only be a 2nd or 3rd choice or unknown.

Wood not Woods, its really simple

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:48 pm

I'd rather have Natalie Wood and she's been dead 20+ years

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:51 pm

Just shows those wanting wilifried bony were dreaming. Wood is the level your looking at, probably due to wages.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:51 pm

Personally I don't understand all this fascination with pace.Prefer somebody who can play football and knows where the net is.Top 3 Premier League goal scorers of all time--Shearer,Rooney and Cole.Not really greyhounds were they but knew how to score goals.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:52 pm

Not sure I understand the comparison between Vokes and Wood. To my mind, they're quite different. Vokes isn't a "number 10", but he is a fairly subte target man. He's not a bumper or a bruiser. He likes to drop off a little bit and to drag centre backs towards the channels, and his link up game is fairly subtle.

My impression of Wood (admittedly from relatively little viewing, but I've just read a couple of things about him online too and it suggests the same) is that he is much more direct and physical - in that sense he is more like Barnes. I think he plays more up against the centre backs and he also looks in behind more - I've always thought that whilst he's not a speed merchant, he has a turn of pace that is underrated. He's also flourished at Leeds as a lone striker, which may be significant if that is the way we intend to line up next season.

He'd not be top of my list, and I've said before that the record of strikers brought by Premier League clubs from the Championship is not that great, but I'd be fairly open minded if we did sign him.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:53 pm

Jimscho wrote:Personally I don't understand all this fascination with pace.Prefer somebody who can play football and knows where the net is.Top 3 Premier League goal scorers of all time--Shearer,Rooney and Cole.Not really greyhounds were they but knew how to score goals.

Cole was lightning in his man u days.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:56 pm

Jimscho wrote:Personally I don't understand all this fascination with pace.Prefer somebody who can play football and knows where the net is.Top 3 Premier League goal scorers of all time--Shearer,Rooney and Cole.Not really greyhounds were they but knew how to score goals.

Whilst I get your point to an extent, all 3 of those were genuinely quick in their prime.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:57 pm

claretspice wrote:All 3 of those were genuinely quick in their prime.

Sorry.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:02 pm

Chris Woodn't.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:13 pm

I really do need to understand how Saxo gets away with that comment please Mods? It is wrong on so many levels but yet a blind eye us turned from those I have ultimate respect for?

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:13 pm

Is Dyche going all out to emulate Pulis and Stoke? Who do we have for the long throws?

Seriously though I don't get this (If true) not what we need at all. Wouldn't be happy if we signed him for £7m never mind double or more. IMO Vokes is better and we need someone better with more mobility and skill to partner him.

Not saying Woods is awful but I just don't see him as any sort of improvement.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:14 pm

If anyone pays anything like £25m for Wood I'd be amazed. He's worth about half of that, even in today's crazy market. If we're even considering it above seriously exploring the European market for better options it shows a real lack of imagination and flexibility in Dyche's approach.

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:21 pm

Saxoman wrote:Cole was lightning in his man u days.

And he was lightening quick chasing that Cardiff player down the tunnell despite having a mangled leg.

Saxo, naff comment towards Spice there.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:21 pm

ClaretAL wrote:I really do need to understand how Saxo gets away with that comment please Mods? It is wrong on so many levels but yet a blind eye us turned from those I have ultimate respect for?

Which comment?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:23 pm

Saxoman wrote:Lucky 1-0d it up unbelievably, despite being dominated most games.

Supposed it doesn't matter if you don't attend games anyway.

Hoofball doesn't bother me that much if the results are going the right way.

Speaking of attending, I've got my season ticket sorted, have you got yours?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:27 pm

Saxoman wrote:Just shows those wanting wilifried bony were dreaming. Wood is the level your looking at, probably due to wages.

City will subsidize wages to get players out the door.
They have done with others recently.

Rovers did the same I think with Leon Best because no one else wanted to pay his £30k a week wages.
Rovers also did the same with Givet.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:27 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Chris Woodn't.

Chris Wooden.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:28 pm

Sidney1st wrote:City will subsidize wages to get players out the door.
They have done with others recently.

Rovers did the same I think with Leon Best because no one else wanted to pay his £30k a week wages.
Rovers also did the same with Givet.

You ain't signing bony.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:29 pm

Er, the one you alluded to drug use followed up by a lol face, perhaps ?

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:29 pm

Dear God yet another example of ineptitude by the club. Once again we have let a player go in Gray with no replacement signed up and definitely incoming before we let the player leave. Its stupefyingly obvious that we will be hostages to fortune with selling clubs knowing we will be increasingly desperate to get someone in and so jerking us around and inflating their prices. Just how many more times are we to keep doing this. I've said it before and I will say it again our recruitment policies are pathetic.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:30 pm

Saxoman wrote:You ain't signing bony.

I'm not saying we will, I'm saying City will cover part of his wages if needed to get rid.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:31 pm

The very last type of striker we need, what a bizarre move by Dyche. Hooooooooooooooooof