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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:23 pm

The board of directors make the decisions, and the chairman will have the final say.

The majority shareholder isn't even on the board of directors.
I'm very, very sure that if the majority shareholder goes "I want Sean Dyche", then that is what the chairman and the board of directors will say as well

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:28 pm

I've had a 'gut feeling' for a while, like a few more on here that if the Everton job came up SD would get it. I think it would be perfect timing. Big, massive club, players coming back from injury. Fantastic fan base and a new stadium in the pipeline. Main priority for Everton this season is to steer clear of relegation. Who better to organise their defence. If he did get the job I can see Ben Mee linking up with him in January window.
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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:28 pm

Cannot for one second see SD turning down Everton if they came calling. I think the Watford and Huddersfield manager would also be a good call for them if they go for a current Premier boss. However I think the owners will be looking for the time honoured continental manager with a big reputation (Anceloti type would be easier to sell to the owners).

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:28 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Is that like the board of directors at Chelsea make the decisions, and the chairman has the final say?

Bruce Buck has more of a say than Roman Abramovich?

Abramovich isn't on the board either.
Abramovich has the power to remove any director of Chelsea by virtue of his >50% shareholding.

Moshiri doesn't have that power at Everton.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:29 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:Allardyce would be my choice and he has the experience, however if they approached SD and gave assurances he had time, then why wouldn't he go.

Allardyce can’t take a club job until 2019 otherwise he’ll owe Palace £2m in compo

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by agreenwood » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:30 pm

The papers will link Dyche with it, but I suspect the current climate won’t allow the Everton hierarchy to look past the fact that he’s synonymous with pragmatic, direct football and has never managed a club the size of Everton.

The Everton fans will see him as another Moyes and they want to progress beyond that era.

In some ways he’s a victim of his own particular success.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by PWBFC » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:33 pm

How would Dyche feel about working with their recruitment guru Steve Walsh? Can't see that working out well unless Walsh is also for the chop.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:35 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Allardyce can’t take a club job until 2019 otherwise he’ll owe Palace £2m in compo
In the grand scheme of things Allardyce paying 2 million to Palace is nothing (we would have to pay that if we wanted him) - I suspect Allardyces wages would be more prohibitive to our board though and the fact he likes to sign a trillion players every transfer window

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by KRBFC » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:35 pm

This is the most excited iv been in 5 years of watching Dyche football. Out out out out

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:38 pm

If they take SD, I would employ Unsworth.

I admit this is based on his time here and the feedback the under 18's gave about him. He has a really good grip on the game and can get it across to players.

No surprise he is being successful with Everton's under 23's.

I would not employ 80% of current managers about as most just not get what Burnley is about, but Unsworth would.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by TonbridgeClaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:42 pm

Good luck to Sean if he gets the job. He's transformed Burnley and will leave the club in great shape. Hopefully we can attract a quality manager who can continue the improvements and push the team onto the next level.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm

One of our fans has been on talksport just now, and claimed that Dyche won't leave because we're on the verge of qualifying for Europe!

End of thread. ;)

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm

KRBFC wrote:This is the most excited iv been in 5 years of watching Dyche football. Out out out out
And I had forgot why I put you on my foe list.

Best manager we have had in years and you put that.

This could easily be a Curbisley and Charlton all over again.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:46 pm

Dyche's odds going the right way for us. He was 2/1 he's not 5/2.

Slaven Bilic now the fave. In fact he's not just the fave, he's now odds on to be the next Everton manager.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Dyche's odds going the right way for us. He was 2/1 he's not 5/2.

Slaven Bilic now the fave. In fact he's not just the fave, he's now odds on to be the next Everton manager.
Bilic fav for Everton ???

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Bilic fav for Everton ???
He was, but I think Oddschecker had a temporary meltdown and he's now been removed. Dyche 9/4.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:54 pm

Boden (not that he knows more than any of us) reckons it's a job Dyche wouldn't turn down

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by simonclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:57 pm

Independent linking Ancelotti also:

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Walt » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:58 pm

Should he be offered it then I'd be very surprised if Dyche said no to Everton.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:00 pm

If Everton or Leicester don't come in form him I expect him to be with us for a few more years, there won't be an offer from a top six club.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Down_Rover » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:03 pm

PWBFC wrote:How would Dyche feel about working with their recruitment guru Steve Walsh? Can't see that working out well unless Walsh is also for the chop.
It would be a bit of a hoot really. How much did a sell Keane for? Are you the guy who wrote the cheque?

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:06 pm

I am a HUGE Fan of Sean for what he has done for the club and the way he has developed the team and the club's training facilities etc etc, and he will leave one day but I CANNOT see him leaving us in the poo like Coyle did and expect him as one of the few men of principle in English football to wait until the end of a season to leave. I know its double standards because clubs 'fire' managers but this different - the club has been nothing but loyal to SD and I know he will repay that loyalty but not quitting mid season

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Boden (not that he knows more than any of us) reckons it's a job Dyche wouldn't turn down
He'd be bonkers to turn it down and we all know that he isn't bonkers.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by simonclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:06 pm

Not a popular option on this Everton forum.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:06 pm

KRBFC..........You Sir are a F..kin idiot!
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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:08 pm

If he goes, then thanks very much for making this club far better than it used to be. I just hope he doesn't get turned on like Coyle.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:21 pm

Do me a favour lads, but if anyone is going to be ringing football talks shows about this, then please try hard not to come across as an unhinged loon.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Saxoman » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:21 pm

Well if he ends up staying, he'll be adored even more. I still think he should. Plenty of learning to do yet as a manager. Did Sam do 8 years at Bolton? That's about right.

I'd back big Sam for Everton.
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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:22 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:KRBFC..........You Sir are a F..kin idiot!
That's what I wanted to say but thought I would be more P.C.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by SkiptonClaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:23 pm

He won’t get the Everton job for the same reasons he wouldn’t appeal to around 90% of Premier League clubs.
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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:27 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Boden (not that he knows more than any of us) reckons it's a job Dyche wouldn't turn down
I think anybody who knows anything about football knows that Everton would be too good to turn down.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by simonclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:29 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:He won’t get the Everton job for the same reasons he wouldn’t appeal to around 90% of Premier League clubs.
So which is the other club, apart from Burnley, that he would appeal to? :geek:

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Grumps » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:30 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:If he goes, then thanks very much for making this club far better than it used to be. I just hope he doesn't get turned on like Coyle.
I'd wish him well if he went to Everton, Leicester would be different as he'd be leaving just for the cash, I'd never boo him, but wouldn't clap if he came back with Leicester

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:33 pm

Burnley - 1 million a year

Everton - 6 million a year

3 years at Everton = 18 years at Burnley

Say goodbye to Sean folks

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Marney&Mee » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:38 pm

If I was an Everton fan, I'd be keen on Chris Coleman or Rafa B

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by hampsteadclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:40 pm

134...with respect what is the evidence/ source for £6 million a year..?

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:45 pm

He’s done a great job for us but I’m not sure he’s done the sort of job that will make him anything more than a passing consideration to the bigger clubs, yet.

To us that’s probably madness, to another club’s chairman or owner considering style of play, European experience, foreign recruitment, wanting the fans on board etc. he may well not tick enough boxes.

He’d probably be seen as a gamble and one that the fans don’t want, which will be a consideration, no matter how silly it sounds.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:47 pm

Grumps wrote:I'd wish him well if he went to Everton, Leicester would be different as he'd be leaving just for the cash, I'd never boo him, but wouldn't clap if he came back with Leicester
After what he has done for us, he would deserve nothing but the finest welcome, each and every time he returned.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by JegunClaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:56 pm

If Sean goes, then he goes and I would wish him well. What I would not want to see is SD taking all his backroom staff with him. We can survive without SD but if his backroom staff stay we have some degree of continuity.
Think that I am clutching at straws though.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:57 pm

Grumps wrote:I'd wish him well if he went to Everton, Leicester would be different as he'd be leaving just for the cash, I'd never boo him, but wouldn't clap if he came back with Leicester
He will leave for the cash, regardless of which club he moves to.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Stan Tastic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:57 pm

Dyche deserves a crack at a bigger club than Burnley. He inspires men. He improves players. He’s done an unbelievable job at Burnley and should be trusted to take the next step now. He’s British as well and what’s wrong with that? After a succession of foreign failures - with more to come - let’s give our boys a chance again.
None other than Richard Keys, who predicted top 4 for Everton at the start of the season, so there's hope for us yet.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by COYC73 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:00 pm

i really can't see him going to either Leicester or Everton.....! If any it would be West Ham I could see him leave us for....

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Cubanclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:13 pm

Brendan Rodgers is an interesting punt

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Cubanclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:16 pm

And Eddie Howe is a lifelong Everton fan- according to the BBC's Phil McNulty - I'd never heard that before !

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by uwe » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:18 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Brendan Rodgers is an interesting punt
"Punt"
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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:18 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Brendan Rodgers is an interesting punt
For us or Everton? I'd have him here if SD left.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by bfcmik » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:59 pm

Tall Paul wrote:The chairman doesn't make the decisions?
The chairman is there to manage debate around the boardroom. Most football clubs have Chairmen who also have businesses of their own to run. it is the CEO who does the work of running the club, in accord with the wishes of the shareholder(s) and the board, of course.

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:08 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:134...with respect what is the evidence/ source for £6 million a year..?
From The Guardian...

"The Dutchman was hired on a £6m-a-year contract in June 2016."

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by hampsteadclaret » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:09 pm

Monday Night Club....Radio 5 Live - just started... [7-9pm]

After Koeman...Bilic...Klopp..?


- Also...Are Tottenham the only team that can stop Manchester City..?

Chapman, Wright, Claridge and a journalist [Burke]


- think SD might get a mention.

** 48..cheers for that - don't think he has been worth £6m a year has he...all those signings..

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Re: Koeman sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:44 pm

FUN FACT: Ronald Koeman got his powers after being bitten by a radioactive pigeon.

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