Damian Green

[RingoMcCartney]

Ringo I wasn't disagreeing or arguing with you on this point. Stop being so defensive.
My issue is with password security.
I'm pretty sure allowing others to access my account it would have been a sackable offence where I used to work.

OK nil-desp sorry about that. Genuinely. Perhaps Ive worded it wrong Perhaps it didnt actually boil down sharing passwords.
Perhaps it was a case of not being able to ascertain who was logged on at any particular time when the legal porn was being viewed.

It shouldnt be over looked that the police had no legal grounds to be there in the first place. And were only there because an inexperinced female of the westminster staff had allowed them illegal entry. Something, repeatedly, over looked by the, Liebour Party, supporting Daily Mirror.......

The police are privy to confidential information and I believe they they sign an oath to cofirm they accept it.

Doctors do the same. How would the, Red under the Bed, Bob Quick feel, if his former GP, revealed personal information,that was gleened illegally, that lead to him being sacked?

[biggles]

looks like everunsteadiereddie has forgotten about all those hate-filled posts about the tories. not surprising really at his age. in his shoes i'd be tempted to put them into some dark room at the back of my mind and try to forget about them. the icing on the cake is that he admits that he believes that he's always right! bizarre! he's obviously got his wrongs and rights and lefts and rights arse about face. sums him up. abolute plonker.

[evensteadiereddie]

So, go on then, biggles, let's see the proof. It sounds as if you're very familiar with my contributions but 8 hours have passed and not a sniff of evidence. Not one "hate-filled" post to be seen. Oh, dear, funny that.

It looks like you're a liar as well as a dickhead.

Keyboard cowardice at its finest.

Too ******* soft and stupid to laugh at but I'll give it a go.

[evensteadiereddie]

OK nil-desp sorry about that. Genuinely. Perhaps Ive worded it wrong Perhaps it didnt actually boil down sharing passwords.
Perhaps it was a case of not being able to ascertain who was logged on at any particular time when the legal porn was being viewed.

It shouldnt be over looked that the police had no legal grounds to be there in the first place. And were only there because an inexperinced female of the westminster staff had allowed them illegal entry. Something, repeatedly, over looked by the, Liebour Party, supporting Daily Mirror.......

The police are privy to confidential information and I believe they they sign an oath to cofirm they accept it.

Doctors do the same. How would the, Red under the Bed, Bob Quick feel, if his former GP, revealed personal information,that was gleened illegally, that lead to him being sacked?

He wasn't supposed to be watching any porn on his office computer but he did. The truth wasn't supposed to come out but it did. He denied. He lied.
Even the feeble old crone May couldn't seriously let him linger in office any longer.
I don't give a damn how any information showing any politician - and I mean any politician - unfit for office is gleaned. And, yes, that is how you spell it.
Any other worker doing the same would get the chop, why shouldn't an MP, senior or otherwise ?

[nil_desperandum]

He wasn't supposed to be watching any porn on his office computer but he did.

Just to be clear. I don't think we can prove that he was, BUT:
Given that the evidence is there on the computer history, his defence is that it was someone else.
Now to me the fact that he claims someone else was able to access his account, through is carelessness or his incompetence, is a FAR more serious charge than that of accessing porn. Apart from porn, what else might someone else be able to access in his account given his senior position in government?. There must be lots of confidential stuff on there. He could even be compromising national security.
But your last sentence is spot on. You leave your computer logged on at work or give someone else your password, and you are likely to find yourself on serious misconduct charges.

[biggles]

oh eddie. poor sod. all the vile insults you keep coming out with and you can't even see the irony of you calling me a keyboard warrior. you are priceless. you, brexit and the tories really are the gift that keeps on giving. nice to know they've all screwed your simple little mind to mush. such a cretinous tosser. keep replying and requesting evidence of your previous vile posts. i'll let you do the donkey work and find 'em yourself. or have you forgotten where you posted them all. belmtard. and

[RingoMcCartney]

He wasn't supposed to be watching any porn on his office computer but he did. The truth wasn't supposed to come out but it did. He denied. He lied.
Even the feeble old crone May couldn't seriously let him linger in office any longer.
I don't give a damn how any information showing any politician - and I mean any politician - unfit for office is gleaned. And, yes, that is how you spell it.
Any other worker doing the same would get the chop, why shouldn't an MP, senior or otherwise ?

"The truth wasn't supposed to come out"

What truth? What was he charged With?

Any "Truth" came out of an illegal politically motivated, police raid without a warrant. That was supposed to try and find the whistle blower, causing the blushes of Tony Bliar.

[HatfieldClaret]

What, Ringo ? The then PM tried to find out who was leaking government secrets. How dare he !

If Green had kept his gob shut and not smeared the policeman involved, then that ex policeman wouldn't have called him out.

Green is the maker of his own downfall.

[RingoMcCartney]

What, Ringo ? The then PM tried to find out who was leaking government secrets. How dare he !

If Green had kept his gob shut and not smeared the policeman involved, then that ex policeman wouldn't have called him out.

Green is the maker of his own downfall.

So there's never been whistle blowers before!? Should people not act on their conscience to expose Government failings and cover-ups.

What did the illegal politically motivated police raids produce that was illegal and that lead to criminal proceedings?

Absolutely nothing.

And why do the Labour loving superintendents now face disciplinary action?

An ex policeman that gathered information in an illegal raid should stay just that. Ex.

Just like an ex Doctor.

If he felt there was anything extra that could have been relevant, he should've gone to the nearest police station. Not the Liebour loving daily mirror.

How very Soviet.

[HatfieldClaret]

Sorry Ringo, disagree. His integrity was quite wrongly recently called into question by Green; so he called Green out for it.

If i've got dirt on you, and you publicly smear me, you would be taking a risk.

A bit like Andrew Mitchell, they think they're a cut above the plebs.

Treat people like plebs and you'll come a cropper.

I'm an active Tory and proud, but I've no time for those who disregard others and think they are 'better'. Whether it's Mitchell, Green or the likes of Juncker.

[RingoMcCartney]

Sorry Ringo, disagree. His integrity was quite wrongly recently called into question by Green; so he called Green out for it.

If i've got dirt on you, and you publicly smear me, you would be taking a risk.

A bit like Andrew Mitchell, they think they're a cut above the plebs.

Treat people like plebs and you'll come a cropper.

I'm an active Tory and proud, but I've no time for those who disregard others and think they are 'better'. Whether it's Mitchell, Green or the likes of Juncker.

Your example of Mitchell was poor. The coppers lied.

Like my original post said if MPs get sacked when they lie. There'd be no MPs.

And lying about whether you knew about the findings of a politically motivated illegal police raid or not. Pales into insignificance compared to knowing that Weapons of Mass destruction don't actually exist now do they!

[HatfieldClaret]

You're missing the point.

If you treat people like the dirt on the sole of your shoe, you get what you deserve.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

“The government is determined to do more to improve police integrity. Let me remind you of just a few of the necessary reforms we are introducing.”

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Probably needs to look a little closer to home first!