ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:35 am

ClaretTony wrote:Eighth in the Premier League, a player injured and no rushed panic signing in January leaves fan disgusted. I'm staggered too.
TBF CT, disgusted is an extremely strong word and I agree with you, but the issue really is that we haven't won a game in ages, we aren't really making many chances never mind scoring goals and the cushion we had built up over the lower half of the table is in danger of being eaten away. Now, just as the transfer window is closing and despite making a couple of really good signings, we have a growing injury list. People are understandably getting pretty jittery as we're so close to the finishing line, but it suddenly looks a long way away.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:43 am

This is worse than the run at the end of Coyle's tenure, which was cited by many Laws-defenders as the real reason we went down that season.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by fidelcastro » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:44 am

"but it suddenly looks a long way away."

No it doesn't.

"jittery"

Shut up you tart!
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by fidelcastro » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:45 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:This is worse than the run at the end of Coyle's tenure, which was cited by many Laws-defenders as the real reason we went down that season.
The difference is, we have better players now. :roll:

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:45 am

Dark Cloud wrote:TBF CT, disgusted is an extremely strong word and I agree with you, but the issue really is that we haven't won a game in ages, we aren't really making many chances never mind scoring goals and the cushion we had built up over the lower half of the table is in danger of being eaten away. Now, just as the transfer window is closing and despite making a couple of really good signings, we have a growing injury list. People are understandably getting pretty jittery as we're so close to the finishing line, but it suddenly looks a long way away.
I don't recollect us making many chances when we played Huddersfield or West Ham at home, for example.

And considering we are the third lowest scorers it suggests we are not a high scoring team (even before Brady got injured), regardless of who we have available.

And do you really think we have any chance of being relegated?

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:46 am

ClaretTony wrote:Eighth in the Premier League, a player injured and no rushed panic signing in January leaves fan disgusted. I'm staggered too.
4 goalkeepers for 1 position
5 strikers for 1/2 positions
3 central defenders for 2 positions
And all with no rushed panic signings in Jan - well that's ok then !
Still, we have Anderson back, and of course Taylor can cover if and when Ward gets back to fitness
There might not have been any worries had we signed a CB back last summer never mind now
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:18 pm

Spijed wrote:I don't recollect us making many chances when we played Huddersfield or West Ham at home, for example.

And considering we are the third lowest scorers it suggests we are not a high scoring team (even before Brady got injured), regardless of who we have available.

And do you really think we have any chance of being relegated?
I ALWAYS think there's a chance we'll get relegated! :o
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:TBF CT, disgusted is an extremely strong word and I agree with you, but the issue really is that we haven't won a game in ages, we aren't really making many chances never mind scoring goals and the cushion we had built up over the lower half of the table is in danger of being eaten away. Now, just as the transfer window is closing and despite making a couple of really good signings, we have a growing injury list. People are understandably getting pretty jittery as we're so close to the finishing line, but it suddenly looks a long way away.
It happens, injuries happen at every club. No we haven't won in ages, but the only game where we haven't performed was the Palace game. We were unfortunate not to get four points from the Man U games, a point against Liverpool and were robbed of two more points at Huddersfield because of the referee.

But a few games without a win, most of them against teams far, far bigger than we can ever be, and the negativitiy starts. And then I see words like disgusted.

I simply can't get my head round any negativity to be honest given where we are at a club like ours. Would I like us to bring a centre half in? Yes. Would I like to see us higher in the table? Yes. Am I happy with where we are and the current situation? Absolutely thrilled to bits.
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by Down_Rover » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:14 pm

Hope we don't lose two centre backs in the first half on Wednesday

It happened last time we were at Newcastle

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:32 pm

Spijed wrote:We've done fine with Vokes up front on his own though, someone who got 10 goals last season.

Btw, what do you define as a disaster? Relegation this season?
having a second half of the season like WBA's last year and throwing away all the hard work that's been done

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:39 pm

Can't stand this attitude of "as long as we finish 17th and get the T.V money it's all good". That was Pulis's approach at West Brom and he just about sucked the life out of the club. Being in this league will get dull incredibly quickly if that is our only ambition.
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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:27 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Can't stand this attitude of "as long as we finish 17th and get the T.V money it's all good". That was Pulis's approach at West Brom and he just about sucked the life out of the club. Being in this league will get dull incredibly quickly if that is our only ambition.
If that is the extent of our ambition then relegation will soon follow.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by Reecey1987 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:37 pm

boatshed bill wrote:If that is the extent of our ambition then relegation will soon follow.
Agreed we have to push on

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by DCWat » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:52 pm

It’s unlikely that we will go down because of our fantastic first half of the season, and how good that was shouldn’t be forgotten.

Momentum does play a part in football though and it seems that we are prepared to take unnecessary gambles on having no further injuries.

A couple of loan signings would allay many fears, I’m sure. Quite why we aren’t going to dip in the market (if Dyche is to be believed) I’m not sure. There’s no denying that we’ve had plenty of time to identify targets and there is no denying that our injury list is concerning.

We must be at our most attractive ever to prospective signings so for me, it’s disappointing not to be in the market for another couple of players.

Players that might help us to finish further up the league and players that may help to prevent a longer run without a win.

We want momentum going into next year.
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:12 pm

DCWat wrote:It’s unlikely that we will go down because of our fantastic first half of the season, and how good that was shouldn’t be forgotten.

Momentum does play a part in football though and it seems that we are prepared to take unnecessary gambles on having no further injuries.

A couple of loan signings would allay many fears, I’m sure. Quite why we aren’t going to dip in the market (if Dyche is to be believed) I’m not sure. There’s no denying that we’ve had plenty of time to identify targets and there is no denying that our injury list is concerning.

We must be at our most attractive ever to prospective signings so for me, it’s disappointing not to be in the market for another couple of players.

Players that might help us to finish further up the league and players that may help to prevent a longer run without a win.

We want momentum going into next year.
We are constantly told that the club is looking at players we may be targeting.
Why not bring some in?

The likelihood of relegation may not be great right now, but if our form over the next 7 games does not improve over the previous 7's we will have just a further 7 games where we really will need to improve. We've been patting ourselves on the back for losing ever since we beat Stoke!
Will 40 points be enough?
And is our current available playing staff actually capable of reaching 40 points?

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:20 pm

boatshed bill wrote:We are constantly told that the club is looking at players we may be targeting.
Why not bring some in?

The likelihood of relegation may not be great right now, but if our form over the next 7 games does not improve over the previous 7's we will have just a further 7 games where we really will need to improve. We've been patting ourselves on the back for losing ever since we beat Stoke!
Will 40 points be enough?
And is our current available playing staff actually capable of reaching 40 points?
If our form in the next seven games is anything like the last seven then we will be over the line.

We’ve played badly once at Palace and with any luck at all would have had at least three or more points.

I’ve read some of the posts on this thread and I’m just relieved I’m not like some of you. You’d think the club was heading for disaster reading some of these posts.

Of course we would have liked a central defender in but otherwise it’s been a good window, yet another good window which is why the club is progressing. We just have an abnormally high number of injuries just now but we will get through it.

There’s even a post suggesting we are throwing away all the good work. Bloody hell, you couldn’t make it up.

Can I just suggest some of you actually sit back and enjoy the best times our club has had in over forty years.

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Post by Tall Paul » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:24 pm

DCWat wrote:It’s unlikely that we will go down because of our fantastic first half of the season, and how good that was shouldn’t be forgotten.

Momentum does play a part in football though and it seems that we are prepared to take unnecessary gambles on having no further injuries.

A couple of loan signings would allay many fears, I’m sure. Quite why we aren’t going to dip in the market (if Dyche is to be believed) I’m not sure. There’s no denying that we’ve had plenty of time to identify targets and there is no denying that our injury list is concerning.

We must be at our most attractive ever to prospective signings so for me, it’s disappointing not to be in the market for another couple of players.

Players that might help us to finish further up the league and players that may help to prevent a longer run without a win.

We want momentum going into next year.
Momentum, as you describe it, isn't a thing in football.

For example, we ended last season in a poor run of form and started this one like a train.
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Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:25 pm

DCWat wrote:We want momentum going into next year.
Totally irrelevant. We finished last season poorly didn't we?

However, come August we put 3 past Chelsea, drew away at Spurs, first team to score at Anfield.

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:If our form in the next seven games is anything like the last seven then we will be over the line.

We’ve played badly once at Palace and with any luck at all would have had at least three or more points.

I’ve read some of the posts on this thread and I’m just relieved I’m not like some of you. You’d think the club was heading for disaster reading some of these posts.

Of course we would have liked a central defender in but otherwise it’s been a good window, yet another good window which is why the club is progressing. We just have an abnormally high number of injuries just now but we will get through it.

There’s even a post suggesting we are throwing away all the good work. Bloody hell, you couldn’t make it up.

Can I just suggest some of you actually sit back and enjoy the best times our club has had in over forty years.
Whilst agreeing with you in many respects, CT, I'm not sure that playing well and losing is of any real benefit.
I do accept that we've had awful luck with injuries.
Can you accept some people's concern that what is left of our squad may struggle to pick up points?
I know you'd like us to add a centre-back, asd would just about every Burnley supporter.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:03 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Whilst agreeing with you in many respects, CT, I'm not sure that playing well and losing is of any real benefit.
I do accept that we've had awful luck with injuries.
Can you accept some people's concern that what is left of our squad may struggle to pick up points?
I know you'd like us to add a centre-back, asd would just about every Burnley supporter.
I’ve no concerns at all other than wishing for another centre half. I’m currently seeing us playing in a position higher than I ever thought we would see again. We have been playing well, one game apart,but have dropped points to some of the bigger teams in the league.

I’d like to see less injuries and I’d like to see a centre half but other than that I’ve no concerns and am delighted to see us 8th with 34 points.
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Post by paulatky » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:33 am

To all you worrying about relegation we are still 250/1 with Paddy Power to go down so a £4 wager on relegation would net you a nice £1,000.

A £40 wager would get you a juicy £10,000 !!!

That should make you sleep easier at nignt but I guess a lot of you are just doom mongers and pessimists and just enjoy looking on the dark side of life.

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Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:56 pm

Down_Rover wrote:Hope we don't lose two centre backs in the first half on Wednesday

It happened last time we were at Newcastle
Schhhhhhhhhh!

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Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:58 pm

paulatky wrote:To all you worrying about relegation we are still 250/1 with Paddy Power to go down so a £4 wager on relegation would net you a nice £1,000.

A £40 wager would get you a juicy £10,000 !!!

That should make you sleep easier at nignt but I guess a lot of you are just doom mongers and pessimists and just enjoy looking on the dark side of life.
Always look on the dark side of life................................we were 2000/1 with PP before the ManU game, £4 then would have netted me £8000 :cry:

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Post by piston broke » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:32 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Momentum, as you describe it, isn't a thing in football.

For example, we ended last season in a poor run of form and started this one like a train.
Momentum is everything in all sports. We are one of the very few teams who have had a second half like our last season and then have managed to turn it around so successfully.
There is no need for sweating this one though, we will be eighth and in the 50+points come May.

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Post by Bertiebeehead » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:52 pm

Defour knee op out for a couple of months.

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