Jean-Claude Juncker so drunk he has to be held up and can hardly walk.

[RingoMcCartney]

Put the bottle down Wrongo, it’s not even midday yet!

Come on now Marty! Stop the wriggling!!


Is there anything you actually know about being a Burnley supporter"

Anything?

Anything at all?

No wriggling now!

A straight forward "yes" or "no"

[WadingInDeeper]

Having suffered for nearly 30 years with back problems, including a couple of spells where i could just walk, and being on numerous forms of pain relief, some of which have completely knocked me out, I've never found myself acting like that.

One thing he reminds me of is being slightly tipsy, rather than blind drunk, having to concentrate hard on your footwork but then swinging to the over the top greetings.

He also reminds me of how my dad acted when when his movement just started to be affected by his dementia. Slight problems with movement, being supported, but greeting everyone as though nothing wrong.

[nil_desperandum]

Juncker may have been drunk.
Based on the evidence he COULD have been.
It also - as I pointed out - could have been related to his medication, but there are other possible causes as well.
(I know of one particularly sad case where a parent was accused of being an habitual drunkard and therefore an inadequate parent.
She had severe MS, but was made to prove it)
Now of course Juncker hasn't suddenly developed a condition like MS, but there are other perfectly plausible reasons for his apparent "drunkenness".
On balance I think the alcohol + medication is the most likely. They might (e.g.) have just changed or upped his meds. I was once almost totally zonked out for 36 hours when I took the wrong dose of medication and then had a couple of drinks.

[ClaretMoffitt]

I do find it hard to believe he has a condition that is causing cerebellar syndrome and he is still up and about attending NATO meetings.

[AlargeClaret]

Wasn’t he seriously p1ssed at some Geneva summit year or so back ? I’m sure he’ll come out with some invisible medical condition and a doctors note,though let us not forget this is the same man who while giving an interview about “not having a drink problem “ drank a bottle of champagne ! Marvellous stuff indeed but if a company exec arrived at a board meeting steaming he’d be sacked simple as that

[RingoMcCartney]

Put the bottle down Wrongo, it’s not even midday yet!

While your having a think let's have a recap


So while were the subject let's have a little back at the loses youve suffered-

You said that you had "evidence" that ending free movement of people would not help to stop exploitation and people trafficking.

None came. 1.0

You had the "facts" that showed the referendum result was NOT the biggest single expression of democracy the UK has witnessed.

None came. 2.0

You tried to claim that we would not be leaving the ECHR . When we voted to Leave. Yet we never were!!!!! 3.0

You claimed that to be self deprecating you had to include "self" in what you were saying. 4.0

Then you posted examples of self deprecation to prove it!

Problem was Marty these examples included self deprecation that had no mention of "self!!!!!" 5.0

And to top it all. One of the best was a quote from someone called Marty!!!!!!     6.0

Then came your attempt to get a point back by mentioning election manifestos being binned!

But i pointed out they were once part of a live campaign and people voted on the basis of them. You are still able to simply look back and make a simple calculation of what percentage of the electorate voted for them. It doesn't in any way shape or form they will be enacted does it now.

7.0

For now......

[Quickenthetempo]

This has caused a much bigger stir amongst the Brexiteers than the Tory minister who admitted lying to the house last week.

You do realise that most of your fellow clarets are Labour voting brexiteers don't you?

This is just a small band of Burnley fans, with quite a few living out of the area.

But just for you and balance they should both be sacked. Just like any normal person in a normal job would be.

[Quickenthetempo]

Oh and weren't Junker cited for being an alchoholic back when these discussions started 2 years ago?

[Lancasterclaret]

I think its hilarious that you and Ringo think living outside the area means we can't comment on Trump and Brexit.

Just how insular are you both?

Do you actually understand how daft it makes you look on here?

This affects the whole UK, and whether you like it or not you can't stop a discussion by pretending the world ends at Hapton.

[karatekid]

I went out last night and got drunker than junker.

It's good but doesn't have the same ring to it as '****** as a fart'

[martin_p]

While your having a think let's have a recap


So while were the subject let's have a little back at the loses youve suffered-

You said that you had "evidence" that ending free movement of people would not help to stop exploitation and people trafficking.

None came. 1.0

You had the "facts" that showed the referendum result was NOT the biggest single expression of democracy the UK has witnessed.

None came. 2.0

You tried to claim that we would not be leaving the ECHR . When we voted to Leave. Yet we never were!!!!! 3.0

You claimed that to be self deprecating you had to include "self" in what you were saying. 4.0

Then you posted examples of self deprecation to prove it!

Problem was Marty these examples included self deprecation that had no mention of "self!!!!!" 5.0

And to top it all. One of the best was a quote from someone called Marty!!!!!!     6.0

Then came your attempt to get a point back by mentioning election manifestos being binned!

But i pointed out they were once part of a live campaign and people voted on the basis of them. You are still able to simply look back and make a simple calculation of what percentage of the electorate voted for them. It doesn't in any way shape or form they will be enacted does it now.

7.0

For now......

Wow I’ve really got to you haven’t I? That’s the second time you’ve trotted that out, you obviously have it in some file you can cut and paste from. The most I’ve done with you is make a mental note that you’re ‘that Brexit idiot’. You’ve got me feeling guilty now!

[RingoMcCartney]

Wow I’ve really got to you haven’t I? That’s the second time you’ve trotted that out, you obviously have it in some file you can cut and paste from. The most I’ve done with you is make a mental note that you’re ‘that Brexit idiot’. You’ve got me feeling guilty now!

Last chance before it goes to 8.0 Marty!

You accused me of "wriggling" there's only one wriggler here Marty!

Here we go!

Is there anything you actually know about being a Burnley supporter"

Anything?

Anything at all?

A straight forward "yes" or "no"

[Lord Beamish]

I’ve wondered for a while if Ringo is the poster formerly known as BobSykes. He’s just as muddle-minded and cerebrally befuddled as Bob used to be.

[Quickenthetempo]

I think its hilarious that you and Ringo think living outside the area means we can't comment on Trump and Brexit.

Just how insular are you both?

Do you actually understand how daft it makes you look on here?

This affects the whole UK, and whether you like it or not you can't stop a discussion by pretending the world ends at Hapton.

Not at all.

I was explaining to Martin that most on here, if not most Burnley fans were Labour voters who would of been angry about the Tories handling of the Universal Credit story.

[nil_desperandum]

You do realise that most of your fellow clarets are Labour voting brexiteers don't you?

.

We had a long debate with Ringo about this some time ago.
There has never been a survey of Burnley supporters to ascertain what party they vote for or which way they voted in the referendum.

[ClaretMoffitt]

We had a long debate with Ringo about this some time ago.
There has never been a survey of Burnley supporters to ascertain what party they vote for or which way they voted in the referendum.

been one for the town though, hasn't there...

[martin_p]

Not at all.

I was explaining to Martin that most on here, if not most Burnley fans were Labour voters who would of been angry about the Tories handling of the Universal Credit story.

Here you go Wrongo, a Burnley supporter not knowing much about Burnley supporters. He thinks we all live in Burnley.

[RingoMcCartney]

Here you go Wrongo, a Burnley supporter not knowing much about Burnley supporters. He thinks we all live in Burnley.

Looking like it's gonna be 8.0 Marty! The fourth official has indicated a minimum of 5 minutes!

Stop swerving, stop wriggling, stop deflecting

Is there anything you actually know about being a Burnley supporter"

Anything?

Anything at all?

No wriggling now!

A straight forward "yes" or "no"

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK......

[Lancasterclaret]

Only one way to solve this

Martin how many loyalty points you got?

Ringo how many loyalty points you got?

[RingoMcCartney]

Not at all.

I was explaining to Martin that most on here, if not most Burnley fans were Labour voters who would of been angry about the Tories handling of the Universal Credit story.

You're now hurtling down a rabbit hole of pedantry.

Some on here aren't prepared to accept like grown up mature adults that the folk that go on the turf reflect the population in general.

A population that voted to Leave. Vote Labour and support the Clarets

You're now entering into a dark world only populated by extreme Remoaners who will, at the drop of a hat get the verbal forensics team out a long with scalpels and put your every word under a micro scope. Instead of just accepting reality.

Don't say you weren't warned. Enter the twilight zone at your peril!

[nil_desperandum]

been one for the town though, hasn't there...

So how is that relevant?
I haven't a clue what percentage of Burnley supporters are resident in the Parliamentary division of Burnley and eligible to vote. (A lot of the posters on this forum (e.g.) are not Burnley residents, and reading some of their content quite a few appear to be still at school.)
And even if all Burnley supporters lived in Burnley there's no conclusive evidence of how that segment of the population voted.

[Quickenthetempo]

We had a long debate with Ringo about this some time ago.
There has never been a survey of Burnley supporters to ascertain what party they vote for or which way they voted in the referendum.

Fair point but as already pointed out, the only indicator we could go off would be the town itself.

[nil_desperandum]

Fair point but as already pointed out, the only indicator we could go off would be the town itself.

I agree with that, but it's not the same as what Ringo and a couple of others claim as conclusive evidence.

[martin_p]

So how is that relevant?
I haven't a clue what percentage of Burnley supporters are resident in the Parliamentary division of Burnley and eligible to vote. (A lot of the posters on this forum (e.g.) are not Burnley residents, and reading some of their content quite a few appear to be still at school.)
And even if all Burnley supporters lived in Burnley there's no conclusive evidence of how that segment of the population voted.

And I wasn't even referring to Burnley Supporters in general, just the ones who post on this board, which likely have a significantly bigger 'out of town' percentage than Burnley supporters in general.

[RingoMcCartney]

He's mentioned "conclusive evidence!!!!

This is just the start. Get out while you can!

[martin_p]

You're now hurtling down a rabbit hole of pedantry.

Some on here aren't prepared to accept like grown up mature adults that the folk that go on the turf reflect the population in general.

So the population of Burnley is 95% male with virtually no ethnic minorities?

[Lancasterclaret]

So the population of Burnley is 95% male with virtually no ethnic minorities?

How dare you distort Ringo's vision of the future!

[RingoMcCartney]

Wriggle away Wrongo. Enjoy your day!

You've had many many opportunities to answer the simple question

"Is there anything you actually know about being a Burnley supporter?"

You haven't, cos you won't. You won't, cos you know exactly where it leads, don't you!!

So I'll do it for you Marty.

Given that you are actually a Burnley supporter, you know full well what it is to be a Burnley supporter!!! When somebody asks the question.

And so when Lancaster claret asked the question- " Is there anything you lot actually know about Europeans lads?"

I was simply pointing out that ClaretMoffit and I, actually being Europeans ourselves, know a considerable amount about Europeans and what it is to be one.

But no, you had to get involved didn't you. Once again!!!

And no amount of moronic desperate tieing your self in knots, getting yourself all verbally legged up with "impled" "your statement" and the hysterical "false reporting" could get you off the hook you got yourself on!

So, latest updated score for the latest embaressmmt for you is

Ringo McCartney 8. Martin "no evidence, no facts, ECHR is part of the European Union, self deprecation has to have "self", 3 examples that don't, manifestos are binned, and now, actual Europeans know about Europeans" p, a big fat. 0

[martin_p]

You've had many many opportunities to answer the simple question

"Is there anything you actually know about being a Burnley supporter?"

You haven't, cos you won't. You won't, cos you know exactly where it leads, don't you!!

So I'll do it for you Marty.

Given that you are actually a Burnley supporter, you know full well what it is to be a Burnley supporter!!! When somebody asks the question.

And so when Lancaster claret asked the question- " Is there anything you lot actually know about Europeans lads?"

I was simply pointing out that ClaretMoffit and I, actually being Europeans ourselves, know a considerable amount about Europeans and what it is to be one.

But no, you had to get involved didn't you. Once again!!!

And no amount of moronic desperate tieing your self in knots, getting yourself all verbally legged up with "impled" "your statement" and the hysterical "false reporting" could get you off the hook you got yourself on!

So, latest updated score for the latest embaressmmt for you is

Ringo McCartney 8. Martin "no evidence, no facts, ECHR is part of the European Union, self deprecation has to have "self", 3 examples that don't, manifestos are binned, and now, actual Europeans know about Europeans" p, a big fat. 0

Wriggle away Wrongo. Love you xx

[RingoMcCartney]

Wriggle away Wrongo. Love you xx

The Ringmeister 8. The Wrigglemeister 0

[martin_p]

The Ringmeister 8. The Wrigglemeister 0

Make sure you add it to your file on me.

[RingoMcCartney]

Make sure you add it to your file on me.

File!?

Don't flatter yourself Marty. A quick cut and paste of my previous put downs and embarrassments for you is a doddle. Well, for any body with a reasonable intellect.

I can understand why you'd think it was a mammoth task!

[martin_p]

File!?

Don't flatter yourself Marty. A quick cut and paste of my previous put downs and embarrassments for you is a doddle. Well, for any body with a reasonable intellect.

I can understand why you'd think it was a mammoth task!

Now that list didn’t put itself together did it Wrongo. Bit of an unhealthy obsession.

[RingoMcCartney]

Now that list didn’t put itself together did it Wrongo. Bit of an unhealthy obsession.

Don't let that tiny ickle brain of yours get a fret on about that complicated cutting and pasting thing Marty!

Concentrate on your weird obsession of always being the loser and revelling in it!

[evensteadiereddie]

This is brilliant.

[Rileybobs]

Ringo has gone Full Ringo.

[Bordeauxclaret]

He’s genuinely the best thing on this board.

Must be quite good to be so lacking in self awareness.

[Imploding Turtle]

He’s genuinely the best thing on this board.

Must be quite good to be so lacking in self awareness.

His fellow Leave voters don't seem the least bit embarrassed by him either, which is telling.

[Quickenthetempo]

His fellow Leave voters don't seem the least bit embarrassed by him either, which is telling.

That's one saving grace for the remainer's, most of them are embarrassed about you.

[KRBFC]

I'll repeat, I gave you stick because you came over as a blubbering, hysterical cockwomble. Nowt to do with your self-loathing, no toxic mentality (?) just good old-fashioned taking the pi$$ out of you.
I love your new-found martyrdom, it kind of suits you.
Enjoy your day.

and I'm the one ruining threads, you're making quite a habbit of this. Quite shocking for a man old enough to collect a free bus pass.

[Lancasterclaret]

Why would we be embarrassed about someone who can string two sentences together?

Ringo is everything every Brexiteer claims no one who voted Brexit is.

When he's like this I'm inclined to believe he's actually a parody account he's that good.

[Quickenthetempo]

Why would we be embarrassed about someone who can string two sentences together?

Ringo is everything every Brexiteer claims no one who voted Brexit is.

When he's like this I'm inclined to believe he's actually a parody account he's that good.

Maybe for what he writes in them two sentences he strings together?

[Stayingup]

Given that the British Foreign Secretary until this week was Boris Johnson, Im not sure any Brit is in a position to lecture the Europeans on the fitness of their politicians (or to be exact, civil servants) based on theur fondness for women, wine or song. And nor is Johnson unique in that regard amongst British politicians, although he is the most embarrassing.

Johnson has of course modelled himself on Churchill, who is generally regarded as one of our greatest leaders, despite being half cut daily by mid morning during his greatest years.

So i think this thread might be a bit trumped up.

You have pictures and/or proof of Johnson being carried out drunk at a meeting have you. Or molesting a woman. If not your comment is just plain stupid.

[Stayingup]

You know the unelected Civil Service actually runs the country right? All politicians do is talk.

Correct because they are allowed to do by weak politicians, who as I say may well become redundant after we don't leave the EU and the EU grabs more and more power.

[Stayingup]

and I'm the one ruining threads, you're making quite a habbit of this. Quite shocking for a man old enough to collect a free bus pass.

Typical below the belt and crass response .

[Stayingup]

You do realise that most of your fellow clarets are Labour voting brexiteers don't you?

This is just a small band of Burnley fans, with quite a few living out of the area.

But just for you and balance they should both be sacked. Just like any normal person in a normal job would be.

Burnley, like many northern town's and cities has a Labour MP. A very good one and a Burnley fan. But the town like many others voted for Brexit. Just shows what we all know really us that the establishment is way out of touch with these voters. Keri Starmer is a prime example. As for Campbell. Well he's just a complete prick

[evensteadiereddie]

and I'm the one ruining threads, you're making quite a habbit of this. Quite shocking for a man old enough to collect a free bus pass.

Not true, knobhead, if you were actually able to read, you'd know from recent dialogue that I'm not, in fact, old enough for a bus pass.
Yes, you are the one ruining threads but at least you do it in such a bizarre fashion that everyone laughs at you. A strange "habbit" to have, I'd say....
Is the season ticket still valid from the other side or is it back to you bullshitting in Wetherspoons this season.

Stay classy, kid.

[claretandy]

Did he have a bad back here as well ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[claretonthecoast1882]

It is well know having a bad back makes you march on the spot, slap peoples faces and compare silly ties.

Probably has the same doctor as Diane Abbot

[ClaretMoffitt]

His fellow Leave voters don't seem the least bit embarrassed by him either, which is telling.

Possibly my favourite poster on here