AndrewJB wrote:It's not a matter of the EU looking bullying and power crazed. Any deal has to be passed by twenty-seven different countries. All it takes is one country to withdraw consent. Spain could do that over Gibraltar. Germany France or the Netherlands over us taking back control of our railways or utilities. Portugal over fishing rights. In the EU Britain had clout, but outside of it much less so.
And look at our government. They are ideologically wedded to the idea of free markets and deregulation. A no deal Brexit suddenly opens the UK up to needing a lot more regulation, and in the beginning at least a heavily planned economy (if we are to avoid shortages). Those Tories who welcome a no deal Brexit are counting on the EU respecting WHO rules (absolutely no guarantee of this), but what they really want is the chaos that comes to the economy. Their "solution" to this chaos will be a re-ordering of things. Getting rid of regulations that stand in the way of business like parental leave, overtime, holidays, minimum wages, corporation tax.
Brexit is the stupidest thing we've ever done.
Hardly the stupidest really and the things you speak of are just if's, but's and maybe's. The fact that the individual countries have to agree is even more in our favour because most if not all will do business with Britain and won't want to lose that. I don't much like the Tories but I think you are jumping to conclusions about what they may or may not want.
If you think it is the stupidest thing we've ever done you must by default think that the 52% of people who voted to leave are in some way stupid. These people will include doctors, teachers, businessmen and women, scientists, university professors, economists, solicitors, accountants, etc.
Or are you one of the remainers who believes everyone who voted to leave is a racist?
Or were lied to or ill-informed?
Or were over 50?
Or little Englanders?
What makes your opinion less stupid?
What do you know that other, presumably far more intelligent and better informed, people don't know?
What makes you think that, as opposed to leavers being lied to before the vote, you are not being lied to now by the remain side?
Do you discount Bloomberg, who have a little more knowledge of economics than you?
Before you start describing a democratic result as 'stupid' you should start to think about the people who voted and then look at yourself. No-one forced 52% of people who voted to vote leave. People made up their own minds.
Incidentally I voted to leave because I actually campaigned against joining in the first place 40-odd years ago. It was then much smaller and less powerful and nothing I have seen in the meantime has ever changed my opinion. Remember this was the same organisation that created food mountains, leaving food to rot in a starving world in order to force up prices, that made limitations as to where we could fish in our own waters that decimated the fishing industry here. This is the same organisation that now pays ridiculous expenses to Euro MPs without a receipt. This is the same organisation that has a president that we have no vote on electing and who most of the time we have never heard of (see the infamous Farage speech a year or two ago).
The EU is a corrupt, power crazed organisation that won't be happy until they virtually run all it's member countries from Brussels, to stay in it would be.....now what was that word?.....oh yes.....stupid.
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