How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by Marty Dobson » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:19 pm

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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by levraiclaret » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:41 pm

houseboy wrote:You're kidding aren't you? Yes you are, I know you are. There is only so much a bunch of local businessmen, how ever well-meaning can do. Look at Chelsea, they were pretty much an average nothing type of club until Abramovich came along, I wouldn't mind some of what they've got, wouldn't you?
You do know that any Russian billionaire is a crony of Putin. At the moment our club is clean which is more than you can say about Chelsea, Arsenal and Bournemouth. Not for me, BFC are doing fine without stooping to that.

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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by levraiclaret » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:43 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Outlooks and ambitions has zero effect on what happens on the pitch.

Sure, buy your tickets, clap when you want to clap, cheer when when you feel need to cheer. Go ahead, and start some stupid ******* song which you saw on another bunch of fans do on YouTube. It only your money that helps.

But don’t invest your hopes, desires and mental well-being on Sean Dyche and millionaire footballers... because they don’t care about you.
The support of the fans that attend matches is critical, When fans do not get on the backs of players and fans vocally support the players this has a positive impact on the team and its performance.

This was clearly shown after the last relegation,

The footballers do care about the support we give them. Believe, attend and support our team. #properfanalert
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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:03 pm

And supporters care about the football they pay to watch. Well, I do.

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Post by levraiclaret » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:08 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:And supporters care about the football they pay to watch. Well, I do.
Then you should support City because we will never be able to match their current team. I can't.
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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:42 pm

levraiclaret wrote:Then you should support City because we will never be able to match their current team. I can't.
I don't know what you are talking about.

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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by houseboy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:20 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:For an average nothing type club, they'd won half a dozen trophies in the 10 years leading up to Abramovich buying them, including a European Cup Winners Cup.

I wish we were a nothing type club like them...
You are right but they were knock-out trophy specialists, something our manager doesn't seem to deem as important, they had been champions less than us till Abramovich came along (once '55). Either way my point is since he arrived they have picked up numerous trophies, including 5 more championships, Champions League etc.

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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by houseboy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:26 am

levraiclaret wrote:You do know that any Russian billionaire is a crony of Putin. At the moment our club is clean which is more than you can say about Chelsea, Arsenal and Bournemouth. Not for me, BFC are doing fine without stooping to that.
I don't really care if they're sleeping with Putin, I don't have the paranoiac hatred of him that so many on here seem to have. As for being 'clean', what are you saying? Are you suggesting that those clubs are some kind of money laundering excercise? Give me a Russian billionaire any day, whatever happens they seem to get success and they don't have to rely on the dreaded Sky TV money, which I trust you don't have any problem receiving despite Murdoc.
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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by Spijed » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:46 am

houseboy wrote:I don't really care if they're sleeping with Putin, I don't have the paranoiac hatred of him that so many on here seem to have. As for being 'clean', what are you saying? Are you suggesting that those clubs are some kind of money laundering excercise? Give me a Russian billionaire any day, whatever happens they seem to get success and they don't have to rely on the dreaded Sky TV money, which I trust you don't have any problem receiving despite Murdoc.
That's all well and good. But if these clubs then find themselves in difficulty down the line no help should ever be offered. It's a ridiculous state of affairs when the HMRC is down the queue when it comes to these situations. They should be allowed to call in their debts and If it means clubs fold through reckless spending and it all goes wrong then tough. Portsmouth & Leicester being prime examples. It's wrong that supporters should expect to have glory AND have a football club to support at the end of if it goes badly wrong!

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Re: How long can we survive at this level ? What is our level ?

Post by houseboy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:34 am

Spijed wrote:That's all well and good. But if these clubs then find themselves in difficulty down the line no help should ever be offered. It's a ridiculous state of affairs when the HMRC is down the queue when it comes to these situations. They should be allowed to call in their debts and If it means clubs fold through reckless spending and it all goes wrong then tough. Portsmouth & Leicester being prime examples. It's wrong that supporters should expect to have glory AND have a football club to support at the end of if it goes badly wrong!
But Abramovic isn't going anywhere anytime soon is he? He's been there for 15 years and Chelsea are now, apparently, fairly self-funding because Abramovic said years ago he didn't want to keep ploughing money into it. I would say, generally speaking, he's the best thing that ever happened to Chelsea and I don't think you would find many Chelsea fans disagreeing with that.
Yes a couple of clubs have fallen foul of bad owners and that is down to extremely bad due diligence by the club itself I would imagine. I don't think you would find too many City fans or Arsenal fans complaining (actually Arsenal fans always complain so scrub that statement).
As far as Burnley are concerned I'm not complaining at all, by and large we have done very well, but our board will never be able, under the current horrendous financial situation in football, to take us any further really, so unless we are happy to continue being 'little old Burnley' (an awful phrase) we need outside investment. Of course we could wait till the money bubble bursts (I'm not holding my breath but it must do someday you would hope) and we return to some kind of sanity, but until then we will always be on the outside looking in without serious outside help.

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