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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:05 pm
Damo wrote:So which is true?
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You must of seen these posts too as it was posted under the post you shared
Well, since the police didn't do anything to the boy, and the school didn't do anything to the boy (according to Justine) and since the mother has recanted her claim, i'm going to just assume you have shared bullshit.
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by Bfcboyo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:06 pm
See above IT
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:07 pm
Bfcboyo wrote:See above IT
i noticed. It's cool.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:07 pm
Bfcboyo wrote:One day, a student came up to the great philosopher. “Socrates, I have just heard some news about one of your friends.” he excitedly exclaimed.
“Before you tell me this news, we need to make sure that it passes the triple filter test,” responded Socrates.
“What’s the triple filter test?” the man asked.
“The first test is that of truth. Tell me, do you know that what you’re going to tell me is absolutely true?” asked Socrates.
After thinking for a moment, the man said, “I heard this news from someone else, so I’m not 100% sure if it’s true.”
“The second test is that of goodness,” Socrates continued, “Is what you’re about to tell me something good?”
“No, actually it’s the opposite…”
Socrates interrupted the man, “So what you’re going to tell me is neither true, nor good?”
The man was slightly embarrassed and shrugged his shoulders.
Socrates continued, “There is one final test which is usefulness. Is what you’re about to tell me going to be useful?”
“Probably not,” the man replied.
“Well, if you’re going to tell me something that’s not true, good or useful, then why tell me at all?” responded the philosopher.
I’m sure that we’ve all indulged in a bit of gossip from time-to-time. We all come across salacious information occasionally that we feel compelled to pass on to others.
The next time you do, pass the information through the triple filter test to see if you really should be telling others.
Fair play.
But there are plenty of posts on here you could of quoted too, including the one you originally quoted.
So why quote me?
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by Bfcboyo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:08 pm
Get off my common ground . It is mine mot to be shared.
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by Bfcboyo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:09 pm
Damo wrote:Fair play.
But there are plenty of posts on here you could of quoted too, including the one you originally quoted.
So why quote me?
I hate social media gossip . You shared some.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:09 pm
Damo wrote:Fair play.
But there are plenty of posts on here you could of quoted too, including the one you originally quoted.
So why quote me?
Probably because you spread bullshit without thinking, and hoped it would make people you don't like look "silly". Given how quickly we debunked it maybe you should think before spreading bullshit.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:09 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, since the police didn't do anything to the boy, and the school didn't do anything to the boy (according to Justine) and since the mother has recanted her claim, i'm going to just assume you have shared bullshit.
The school didn't do anything about the boy who was attacked in the video. Neither did the police until it went viral.
But that isn't why you assume it's Bullshit
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm
I'm with bfcboyo here.
I don't like social media gossip, or gossip in general
Surprised you shared it Damo to be honest, its the sort of thing that needs checking first before being shared.
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by martin_p » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:12 pm
Damo wrote:The school didn't do anything about the boy who was attacked in the video. Neither did the police until it went viral.
But that isn't why you assume it's Bullshit
The mother said he didn’t do it. Don’t know why she started by saying he did, mistaken identity? But she cleared it up.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:12 pm
Damo wrote:The school didn't do anything about the boy who was attacked in the video. Neither did the police until it went viral.
But that isn't why you assume it's Bullshit
No, but the police and the school DID apparently do something about the attackers of that girl. So why didn't they punish the boy too, especially if he bit her which leaves a mark that can be used to prove it was him. I'm going to assume they didn't punish him because the claim itself is bullshit.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:13 pm
Bfcboyo wrote:I hate social media gossip . You shared some.
You are on a football messageboard, on a thread with very little facts, generated from facebook and complaining about social media gossip?
Can you find a good Socrates quote about irony?
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by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:13 pm
Lancasterclaret wrote:Thing is, it is a racially motivated assault to normal people.
But if you want to pretend its normal bullying and its all part of going to school, you carry on.
What is 'normal bullying'?
And does it have a less of an impact on the victim?
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:14 pm
Lancasterclaret wrote:I'm with bfcboyo here.
I don't like social media gossip, or gossip in general
Surprised you shared it Damo to be honest, its the sort of thing that needs checking first before being shared.
Then there are countless other people on this thread you should also be disappointed with. Including yourself
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:14 pm
Damo wrote:You are on a football messageboard, on a thread with very little facts, generated from facebook and complaining about social media gossip?
Can you find a good Socrates quote about irony?
There's literally video of the boy being beaten up. And then more video of his sister being beaten up.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:15 pm
You've got to love Damo's attempt at a defence.
"If what i'm saying is gossip then literally every discussion about anything is gossip."
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by Bfcboyo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:16 pm
Yes facts vs idiots on facebook .
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Fools share fools foolishness on foolsbook!
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:18 pm
Don't think I share gossip to be fair Damo.
fairly obvious what I meant BOT, and I think you know it too.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:19 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:There's literally video of the boy being beaten up. And then more video of his sister being beaten up.
Yes. There is.
And from that, people like you have deemed it to be a racially motivated attack, where a refugee was waterboarded by someone who was trained not to incriminate himself by the EDL
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by martin_p » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:21 pm
Damo wrote:Yes. There is.
And from that, people like you have deemed it to be a racially motivated attack, where a refugee was waterboarded by someone who was trained not to incriminate himself by the EDL
but I'm the social media gossip

I’ve deemed he’s been probably influenced by the EDL by the fact he was sharing Tommy Robinson posts on Facebook.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:22 pm
Damo wrote:Yes. There is.
And from that, people like you have deemed it to be a racially motivated attack, where a refugee was waterboarded by someone who was trained not to incriminate himself by the EDL
but I'm the social media gossip

I have less of a problem with people speculating as to the motives behind someone who is a bully than i do with people speculating and lying that the victim deserved it. Sue me.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:26 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:I have less of a problem with people speculating as to the motives behind someone who is a bully than i do with people speculating and lying that the victim deserved it. Sue me.
You are admitting to speculating now at least.
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by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:28 pm
Lancasterclaret wrote:
fairly obvious what I meant BOT, and I think you know it too.
Aye. Some bullying is worse than other bullying to sandal wearers.
I was bullied when I was a lad because I lived on a different street and we didn't have a television.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:28 pm
Damo. You spread lies about the victim of an attack. You need to accept that and learn from it and stop trying to deflect from your own actions. And maybe stop following such an obviously scummy facebook page..
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:30 pm
Damo wrote:You are admitting to speculating now at least.
You genuinely believe that people who speculate as to the motives of the bully is just as bad as you spreading made up bullshit about the victim, don't you?
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:30 pm
Clearly all bullying is the same to those of us who want to believe it wasn't racially motivated.
I was bullied when I was a lad because I supported Burnley. Made me hate anybody who bullies for whatever reason.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:32 pm
Lancasterclaret wrote:Clearly all bullying is the same to those of us who want to believe it wasn't racially motivated.
I was bullied when I was a lad because I supported Burnley. Made me hate anybody who bullies for whatever reason.
I was bullied because i was so much better than everyone else.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:34 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:You genuinely believe that people who speculate as to the motives of the bully is just as bad as you spreading made up bullshit about the victim, don't you?
Yes. You genuinely believe you should be able to speculate, and in turn, become judge, jury and executioner, without knowing any facts, just because you read something on reddit, Twitter, buzzfeed that fits your narrative, don't you?
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:35 pm
I had what seemed like the entire school waiting for me when we lost 6-1 to PNE.
I begged my parents to let me take the day off!

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by Somethingfishy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:39 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:I was bullied because i was so much better than everyone else.
No the quote above just proves you are a c***. I actually pity you. Not that you deserve pity.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:39 pm
Damo wrote:Yes. You genuinely believe you should be able to speculate, and in turn, become judge, jury and executioner, without knowing any facts, just because you read something on reddit, Twitter, buzzfeed that fits your narrative, don't you?
I'm not speculating that this bully beat the **** out of the boy. The video shows that it happened.
You however spread bullshit that claimed the victim deserved it because he bit a girl weeks prior based on nothing more than a Facebook post, which the mother of the girl then recanted.
You have tried to smear an innocent boy and victim by spreading the lie that he viciously assaulted a girl. What has anyone else said in this thread that comes remotely close to that levels of scumbaggery? I'll help you out, the answer is "nothing".
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:40 pm
Somethingfishy wrote:No the quote above just proves you are a c***. I actually pity you. Not that you deserve pity.
Most people can identify self-deprecating humour. Not you, though.
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by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:41 pm
Lancasterclaret wrote:Clearly all bullying is the same to those of us who want to believe it wasn't racially motivated.
Of course it was racially motivated. Children usually bully other children for being different.
Which gets back to the question of 'normal bullying'.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:45 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm not speculating that this bully beat the **** out of the boy. The video shows that it happened.
You however spread bullshit that claimed the victim deserved it because he bit a girl weeks prior based on nothing more than a Facebook post, which the mother of the girl then recanted.
You have tried to smear an innocent boy and victim by spreading the lie that he viciously assaulted a girl. What has anyone else said in this thread that comes remotely close to that levels of scumbaggery? I'll help you out, the answer is "nothing".
He didn't beat the sh*t out of him did he?
Nor did he waterboard him.
Doubt he's a member of the EDL either.
You could be right in your op, that this was racially motivated, but you don't know that, so you are speculating. Your a gossip. A social media gossip.
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:47 pm
Ah, see where you are coming from a bit more now.
You are not condoning it, just saying its bullying but it just happens to be the difference is the colour or religion of the victim so it counts as normal bullying.
See where you are coming from and hopefully you will see where I'm coming from.
The bit that really bothered me was that he was a refugee. He's been through stuff we can't imagine or ever have to deal with, and he's getting waterboarded. I'd have still been bothered if it had been "normal" bullying, but waterboarding isn't normal. I think you'd only do that to make some sort of blatant point. Maybe I'm giving this brain donor too much credit but that is the way I see it.
Thats the difference to me
EDIT - my second sentence doesn't make a right lot of sense. I agree that you are right and this is just bullying full stop!
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:49 pm
Damo wrote:He didn't beat the sh*t out of him did he?
Nor did he waterboard him.
Doubt he's a member of the EDL either.
You could be right in your op, that this was racially motivated, but you don't know that, so you are speculating. Your a gossip. A social media gossip.
He did beat the **** out of him. Want to see the video?
I didn't say he waterboarded him. He squirted water in his face, that's not waterboarding. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the idiot thought that's what he was doing.
I didn't say he was an EDL member.
My OP doesn't mention anything about anything being racially motivated.
Why the **** do you make so much **** up?
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by Somethingfishy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:50 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:Most people can identify self-deprecating humour. Not you, though.
Maybe because you do come across as believing you are better than everyone else. More of an admission than self deprecation.
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:51 pm
Somethingfishy wrote:Maybe because you do come across as believing you are better than everyone else. More of an admission than self deprecation.
I am though.
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:51 pm
I think IT is taking the **** a lot more times than those who get bothered by him realise.
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by Dazzler » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:53 pm
It's basically what we've been teaching our kids to do for at least a decade.
I am offended by the use of the word "we've"..as will many other parents
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:55 pm
Dazzler wrote:I am offended by the use of the word "we've"..as will many other parents
Your offence has been registered and processed accordingly.
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by Damo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:56 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:He did beat the **** out of him. Want to see the video?
I didn't say he waterboarded him. He squirted water in his face, that's not waterboarding. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the idiot thought that's what he was doing.
I didn't say he was an EDL member.
My OP doesn't mention anything about anything being racially motivated.
Why the **** do you make so much **** up?
The fact you don't have the courage to back up your original point just proves how nonsensical it was
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by Imploding Turtle » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:58 pm
Damo wrote:The fact you don't have the courage to back up your original point just proves how nonsensical it was
Is this how you work now? You completely imagine up some things to accuse me of and then when i point out that you've completely imagined it you claim that i'm the one in the wrong because i won't back up your imagination?
Go to bed, mate. You've had a bad night.
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by Somethingfishy » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:00 am
Imploding Turtle wrote:He did beat the **** out of him. Want to see the video?
I didn't say he waterboarded him. He squirted water in his face, that's not waterboarding. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the idiot thought that's what he was doing.
I didn't say he was an EDL member.
My OP doesn't mention anything about anything being racially motivated.
Why the **** do you make so much **** up?
Lets not get hung up on the fact you didn't mention race. We all know perfectly well it is what you were implying. Or were you implying that bullying is Britains future?
The arguing with idiot quote is perfectly applicable to you. You are certainly experienced.
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by Somethingfishy » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:02 am
Lancasterclaret wrote:I think IT is taking the **** a lot more times than those who get bothered by him realise.
Whether he is taking the p*ss or not I genuinely think he is a c***. I couldn't care less how self deprecating he is. That just adds to it.
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by martin_p » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:04 am
Well I’m more than happy to say that when a boy who shares racist post on Facebook attacks a Syrian refugee there a good chance it’s racially motivated.
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by Somethingfishy » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:11 am
martin_p wrote:Well I’m more than happy to say that when a boy who shares racist post on Facebook attacks a Syrian refugee there a good chance it’s racially motivated.
Racially motivated or not the end result was that it was a form of bullying. The bullying is what i have an issue with. He was attacked. It is what bullies do. This bully may have attacked others in the same way..chances are high. White. Asian. Black. Pink with purple spots. It is still bullying.
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by Imploding Turtle » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:11 am
Somethingfishy wrote:Lets not get hung up on the fact ...
You could have just stopped typing right here.
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by Imploding Turtle » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:12 am
Somethingfishy wrote:Whether he is taking the p*ss or not I genuinely think he is a c***. I couldn't care less how self deprecating he is. That just adds to it.
I have no problem with people like you thinking i'm a c***. In fact, i'm glad. When people like you start to think i'm alright then i'll be worried.
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by martin_p » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:14 am
Somethingfishy wrote:Whether he is taking the p*ss or not I genuinely think he is a c***. I couldn't care less how self deprecating he is. That just adds to it.
He’s playing you like a fiddle
