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by tim_noone » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:53 pm
Vino blanco wrote:Many of the people on here will be dead in twenty years or so: chill out and enjoy what you have left of your short lives
Tell em how it is....positivity at it's Best

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by nil_desperandum » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:58 pm
Colburn_Claret wrote:. This massive division between young and old, just doesn't exist..
In your head maybe.
Apart from what I see with my own eyes, every single survey, and every single piece of data, tells us that the overwhelming majority of young people are opposed to brexit, and that (sadly) it's people of my generation who are irredeemably leavers.
Irrespective of your view on brexit, I don't see how you can argue that the country isn't divided, and particularly on generational lines.
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:58 pm
nil_desperandum wrote:If you are unable to see how brexit has divided the younger generation against the old, and how poisonous the atmosphere is within the country, (as demonstrated by some outside Parliament last week), then you are turning your back on reality.
It might be all fine within your own circle of friends, but open your eyes and look at the country as a whole.
You don't hear of a lot of people rallying round the idea of consensus, and it has to be said the press don't help a all.
After the referendum, I watched a number of my school friends having major meltdowns about it on FB for 6months to a year at the most.
Hardly heard a peep out of them before I shut my FB down, its almost like they've realized that blaming their parents and grandparents for the end of life as we knew it was making them look pretty stupid.
One lad even made the mistake of trying to pick a fight with my mum, that didn't end well for him

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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:59 pm
nil_desperandum wrote:In your head maybe.
Apart from what I see with my own eyes, every single survey, and every single piece of data, tells us that the overwhelming majority of young people are opposed to brexit, and that (sadly) it's people of my generation who are irredeemably leavers.
Irrespective of your view on brexit, I don't see how you can argue that the country isn't divided, and particularly on generational lines.
Not to the extent that is made out by the media.
People have just got on with their lives mainly.
There are a hardcore on each side that are bitterly complaining daily.
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by RingoMcCartney » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:00 pm
Tall Paul wrote:Why are you posting a seven month old article?
Cos it's content is as relevant as if it were written 7 minutes ago.
It holds a mirror up to cosseted dwellers of the metropolitan London Borough of ivory towers.
The ones that are desperate to keep the status quo. To make sure their entitlement and privilege is maintained.
How dare the pitchfork weilding bumpkins stop their supply of "very affordable Au pairs and cleaners , darling." What right do we plebs have to challenge their right to access cheap foreign tradesmen. It's their God given right to go to their favourite Michelin star restaurant and have to food brought to their table with eastern Europeans on minimum wage or zero hours contracts.
Hugh Grant/ Gina Miller./ James O'brien. / Tony Bliar / Andrew Adonis.
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:01 pm
AndrewJB wrote:Four to six thousand people will have forty to sixty thousand relatives and friends.
Wasn't that many that were affected was it?
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RingoMcCartney
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by RingoMcCartney » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:02 pm
Apologies that should have read Tony "war criminal" Bliar
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by Lancasterclaret » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:04 pm
Even if you copied and pasted it from "Brexit monthly" Ringo, you can still edit it!
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by aggi » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:48 pm
RingoMcCartney wrote:Cos it's content is as relevant as if it were written 7 minutes ago.
It holds a mirror up to cosseted dwellers of the metropolitan London Borough of ivory towers.
The ones that are desperate to keep the status quo. To make sure their entitlement and privilege is maintained.
How dare the pitchfork weilding bumpkins stop their supply of "very affordable Au pairs and cleaners , darling." What right do we plebs have to challenge their right to access cheap foreign tradesmen. It's their God given right to go to their favourite Michelin star restaurant and have to food brought to their table with eastern Europeans on minimum wage or zero hours contracts.
Hugh Grant/ Gina Miller./ James O'brien. / Tony Bliar / Andrew Adonis.
Where is this metropolitan London Borough of ivory towers? The last tradesman I used cost me a bomb and cleaners are pretty pricey too so if you can point me in the right direction that would be great.
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by RingoMcCartney » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:57 pm
aggi wrote:Where is this metropolitan London Borough of ivory towers? The last tradesman I used cost me a bomb and cleaners are pretty pricey too so if you can point me in the right direction that would be great.
Ask Eddie Izzard/ Bob Geldof / Polly Toynbee/ Alistair Campbell / Nick Clegg (insert luvvie / Remoaner name here) for recommendations.
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by Colburn_Claret » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:41 pm
nil_desperandum wrote:In your head maybe.
Apart from what I see with my own eyes, every single survey, and every single piece of data, tells us that the overwhelming majority of young people are opposed to brexit, and that (sadly) it's people of my generation who are irredeemably leavers.
Irrespective of your view on brexit, I don't see how you can argue that the country isn't divided, and particularly on generational lines.
I dont disagree with your voting stats, what I'm disagreeing with is that its brought friction between young and old, it hasn't , they just happen to have a difference of opinion. The same as any of my friends voting Tory doesn't cause friction between us.
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by Lancasterclaret » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:46 pm
Colburn_Claret wrote:I dont disagree with your voting stats, what I'm disagreeing with is that its brought friction between young and old, it hasn't , they just happen to have a difference of opinion. The same as any of my friends voting Tory doesn't cause friction between us.
I actually think that is fair, but when its not friends, then there is a definite undercurrent there.
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by AndrewJB » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:45 pm
[quote="GodIsADeeJay81"]Wasn't that many that were affected was it?[/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... -5000-mark
I believe the number of people that could have been affected was over fifty thousand. That’s could have been had the government continued on the same course, rather than being shamed into stopping it.
What they have done in the meantime however is deploy the argument that the U.K. government can take away the U.K. citizenship of anyone who is also (or could also) hold the citizenship of another country. Granted, they say they’d only do this in extreme circumstances, however in my opinion it’s draconian.
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by AndrewJB » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:16 am
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ent-policy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You have to ask yourselves what the point was of this immigration policy. Our taxes went toward seeking out people to deport, and targets were set for removals. God knows how much all of that cost. Once the government was forced into a U-turn on this part of their policy, our taxes now go toward fixing the issue (up to £600 Million). The people of this country aren't nasty, but we have to pay for a government that is.
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