What Sean Dyche has delivered in his nearly 9 year tenure

[Woonderbah]

it's a really difficult balance for everyone involved. He has MASSIVELY over achieved but we are at a point where the team needs a rebuild. Some would like the style of play to be better and more entertaining and some aren't bothered as long as we stay up. I personally prefer to watch a more entertaining brand of football but I'm also keenly aware that that is the trap both Blackburn and Stoke fell in to. The balance is very delicate

I agree.. and then Alan Curbishley and Charlton spring to mind proving just what a difficult balancing act it is

[ClaretMov]

Won and lost by fine margins. We could easily have been 3 up by half time but for the woodwork. Goodmundson chose the wrong option prior to hitting the post - Wood was running into space and would have had a better chance to score. Unusually, the defence were not savvy enough. Brighton had been trying cutbacks before they scored two using that method. Did the defence learn? No. It is easy to blame the manager when we lose.

His player's
His starting xl
His tactics
His training techniques
His substitutions
His fault

We can't have it both ways, because when we win Dyche is the chosen one

[warksclaret]

Dont know if anyone was listening to Talksport his morning. Simon Jordan was talking about Burnley and SD. I rate Jordan as the best current pundit re the financial and commercial aspects of the PL clubs. He was glowing of SD and referred to him as "the glue" that keeps us all together. He said he had performed miracles on the minimum of budgets and if we parted we would languish in the Championship. He also felt SD will hang on before signing his contract until he feels he has been supported with new players in this window. Also had reservations on how ALK can service the debt on our current gross income.

[tiger76]

Won and lost by fine margins. We could easily have been 3 up by half time but for the woodwork. Goodmundson chose the wrong option prior to hitting the post - Wood was running into space and would have had a better chance to score. Unusually, the defence were not savvy enough. Brighton had been trying cutbacks before they scored two using that method. Did the defence learn? No. It is easy to blame the manager when we lose.

We played well enough on Saturday, particularly 1st half, to suggest we'll win enough games to comfortably survive.

And for 70 minutes we looked well on course to win 1-0, then Potter fair does to him made his changes, and they came up trumps.

The encouragement aspect of our play was that we created plenty of chances, now we just need to start taking them, and naturally also avoid conceding soft goals when in a winning position.

Disappointing though the Brighton defeat was it certainly didn't merit some of the hysteria displayed on this MB, and I'm glad the majority of the more level-headed posters can see the bigger picture, the reality is in this league we'll lose games, it's how we react to adversity that's the important thing, and generally we find a way to bounce back after a defeat or two, hence why we've managed to retain our PL place for so long.

And yes on another day we'd have won with ease, but equally if we'd have beaten Brighton say 3-0, I wouldn't be getting carried away in the other direction.

One result doesn't define our season, our indeed any other teams, certainly not at this early stage of the campaign.

[tiger76]

Brilliant under Dyche for about the first 5 season's (best I've ever seen us playing in the last 45+ year's)

But treading water for the last 4 season's and its sad to see, not backed by the owner's, poor substitutions, no plan B and other managers tactically finding him out more and more often each season.

Treading water, are you having a laugh, in the past 4 seasons we've finished, 7th, 15th, 10th & 17th, yes we've had a couple of campaigns where we've struggled at times, but equally SD has delivered 2 top 10 PL placings during those 4 years, if you consider that treading water, then no wonder you're not happy with our present gaffer.

Not backed by the owners?, there's some truth in that, but equally SD has also spent money on the likes of Gibson, where the club has most definitely not got value for money, subs have always been one of Sean's sticking points, but that could in part be down to our lack of genuine options on the bench, and if we could improve our squad this would possibly allow him to be more flexible during games. No plan B, well! do we really need one when the way we play keeps us up every year, as for other managers being more tactically astute, again that's probably due in large part to them having the options available to them, which comes back to us improving the squad.

As I clearly stated in the original post, SD is by no means perfect, but he's got a lot more right than wrong during his time at Burnley, and he's earnt the right to be given a fair crack of the whip by the new owners after all he's done over the last 9 years.

[ClaretMov]

Treading water, are you having a laugh, in the past 4 seasons we've finished, 7th, 15th, 10th & 17th, yes we've had a couple of campaigns where we've struggled at times, but equally SD has delivered 2 top 10 PL placings during those 4 years, if you consider that treading water, then no wonder you're not happy with our present gaffer.

Not backed by the owners?, there's some truth in that, but equally SD has also spent money on the likes of Gibson, where the club has most definitely not got value for money, subs have always been one of Sean's sticking points, but that could in part be down to our lack of genuine options on the bench, and if we could improve our squad this would possibly allow him to be more flexible during games. No plan B, well! do we really need one when the way we play keeps us up every year, as for other managers being more tactically astute, again that's probably due in large part to them having the options available to them, which comes back to us improving the squad.

As I clearly stated in the original post, SD is by no means perfect, but he's got a lot more right than wrong during his time at Burnley, and he's earnt the right to be given a fair crack of the whip by the new owners after all he's done over the last 9 years.

Thanks for putting me straight Sean

[Longsidelenny1882]

Brilliant post tiger and tony well said utc

[boatshed bill]

Undeniably a brilliant manager for us, and hard to replace.
I'm a little concerned that we have seen his best work, with his squad, I wonder if it would be possible for him to recreate this.

[Roger1960]

I think you can summarise most posts on here as great work so far Sean BUT what next and that isn't clearly just down to him as its as much if not more down to the owners , as many have posted the squad is ageing faster than its being refreshed and given the owners cant/wont splash out on a substantial number of new players in this or any other window that problem is only going to get worse unless the youth players who warm the bench every match make it into the team which given past history seems unlikely. my concern is the excitement of promotion and then if anything the greater fun of coming back again against the odds has now dissipated and fans are losing interest in a relegation battle that started on saturdays match and drags on all season , every season . Fans , especially the younger ones need a reason to go on the match and the reason their dads and grandads had dont hack it for them , a lot dont drink so the whole match day pub / match / pub with the mates doesnt fit. they have little money and football even burnleys prices make it an expensive day twice a month . they have lots of other things they can do and football has to compete and frankly Burnley as it plays at the moment with the same squad its had for several years now and no new young EXCITING players is not competing. look at the attendance on saturday , after 18 months with no football , ok holiday time and it was brighton but don't pretend most people weren't surprised how sparse it was. and then they cant sell out 1,900 liverpool tickets in a blink of an eye . football is in the entertainment business , burnley seems to have forgotten that. missing fans means not just less ticket sales but fewer shirts sold and pies and everything else , it means fewer families going on which means the kids dont get wedded to their home town club and instead start following the glamourous teams we have right on our doorstep. buying new players showing an intent to try and improve not just survive is vital if fans are going to be retained. another blank transfer window and saturdays attendance may look pretty good by the time west ham visit the week before christmas

[ChorltonCharlie]

If there’s one thing this thread shows it’s how ungrateful and arrogant some of our fans are. Sean Dyche has been fantastic for this club and has given us more than any reasonable person could have asked for in the circumstances. There was a time as football finances continued to grow that many of us thought that becoming a Premier League team was almost a pipe dream, never mind staying there. It’s not like the money side has got any easier. This season 16 of the teams in this division have billionaire owners. On the financial side of things only 3 teams are realistic rivals to us this season.

It’s because of Sean Dyche that we can often outperform teams who have resources we can only dream of. No one is perfect, and no one is saying Dyche get’s everything right, but he deserves far more respect than some of you give him. For the most part he gets things right and that’s how we’ve achieved what we have. That includes things that some of you lot think he gets wrong. How arrogant to sit there saying someone who’s achieved what he has gets his subs wrong and other drivel. Sean Dyche’s decisions are not a binary or right and wrong. It’s not a level playing field and sometimes it wouldn’t matter what he does he’d be peeing in the wind. On Saturday we’re up against a team who’s spent money to improve their squad that we simply can’t afford. We’re talking about hundreds of millions of pounds of investment by a billionaire. Potter gets credit for making changes that utilised those resources, and when he gets it right it almost doesn’t matter what Dyche does with the limited resources he has. If, as he often does, Dyche responds and we get a result, then it’s kudos to Dyche, but if it doesn’t work it doesn’t make him wrong.

There’s nothing wrong with not liking decisions he makes, it’s the certainty that some of you talk about it as if the guy tapping away on Up the Clarets knows more than one of the most respected managers in English football. It’s pure arrogance.

[CnBtruntru]

It is probably the best 8-9 years this club has had, yeh we don't play like Brazil but with a few nice young and pacey additions we'll be reight.

[ClaretinJapan]

He's worked wonders and long may it continue. I wouldn't be able to watch every game live here in Japan if we were in the championship!