Weghorst Reception

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:50 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:40 pm
Fms need to understand, he dissed us. Walked away thinking he was the big I am. Wanted to sign for United but was crap. He will be booed on the turf. Get used to it. I think he is a complete idiot and a crap striker.
What a fool VK must be not to fully understand that point of view and to even consider including him as part of his pre season plans. Perhaps you should have a word with him when he returns.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Murger » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:51 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:42 pm
Good for you

How is helping that anyone or anything?

I get that the level of thickness on this board can be off the scale about stuff that isn't football, but I assumed that people could work out that booing your own players doesn't result in successful teams

It really is that basic

If you are going to boo, then kindly hand your season ticket in to reception and go the 'Spoons where you belong
The arrogance of LC summed up in 1 post. Sorry we can’t all frequent the local wine bars though.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:53 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:47 pm
This from someone who is surprised he got booed in a friendly. Your quick to forgive and that’s right, but not many fans are like you.
Aren't they? We must have more knobheads than I thought.

How sad.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by roperclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:53 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:45 pm
Keyboard warriors slagging off matchgoing ****** up knobheads
Fixed that for you

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Spiral » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:54 pm

I've already said this earlier in the thread so sorry for repeating the point, but nobody went to Genk to boo Wout (lol how are those real words? Genk, boo, Wout...those are all comic book onomatopoeias), people went to Genk for a pissup, probably got bored witless with the game and so tried entertaining themselves with the easiest thing at hand, the simplest base feeling that arose in them: boo the pantomime villain.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:49 pm
He said he didn’t want to play for us again, do you kinda understand that.
Did he? Feel free to share the quotes.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:48 pm
But you didn’t go, so shut up. That’s the general consensus here.
I hope that some of the people in the away end told the people who were booing that they were out of order

Imagine hearing that on the Turf on the first game of the season, in front of the watching millions?

God, it would be peak idiocy to do it

There is no way any of our fans would be that dumb............oh

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm

Spiral, you really are on top form tonight :D

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Vintage Claret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:38 pm
Bullshit.

Told you time and time again, Burnley fans are bellends.
You missed the word 'some' in front of 'Burnley' in your post there.

Don't assume that a few fans booing and abusing one of their own players or flying a 'white lives matter' banner behind an aeroplane are representative of all Burnley fans.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Ric_C » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm

The guy just seems to bring negative vibes. Look how long it's taken for our fans to start arguing amongst themselves.

He comes across as a classic energy sapper.

He's failed in the prem twice, we need to get shut asap if we get any kind of semi decent offer.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:56 pm

Always entertaining when Lowbank gets involved after a few shandies.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:56 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:49 pm
He said he didn’t want to play for us again, do you kinda understand that.
No he didn’t, you’ve made that up in your head, not once did he say he didn’t want to play for Burnley again

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:56 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:47 pm
This from someone who is surprised he got booed in a friendly. Your quick to forgive and that’s right, but not many fans are like you.
Well I find that a shame.

I didn’t rate him even one bit, but you’d have to be a special type of silly not to see that we’re a totally different team to the one he left. We have to give him a go if we cannot sell him and more importantly we have to trust Kompany because he has earned that trust.

Surely as a fanbase we can see that?
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:58 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm
I hope that some of the people in the away end told the people who were booing that they were out of order

Imagine hearing that on the Turf on the first game of the season, in front of the watching millions?

God, it would be peak idiocy to do it

There is no way any of our fans would be that dumb............oh
I can’t get over the fact that all these true fans have condoned the booing of one of our most expensive signings during a pre season friendly.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:58 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm
Did he? Feel free to share the quotes.
I must admit, I didn't want to be corrected, but I don't remember him saying that either.

His actions may well have implied that he didn't want to play for us, but if it was to further his international ambitions, then it's understandable to a point.

Whatever people's view of him, booing him is just moronic in my view.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by TsarBomba » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:58 pm

Slight overreaction to probably no more than a few knuckleheads being knuckleheads.

Weghorst doesn’t want to be here.

A large portion of our fans don’t want him to be here.

Probably best for all concerned that he’s moved on, and I’ll be amazed if he’s still with us come the end of the window.

But abusing our players is completely unacceptable, and if he is staying, then we need to get behind him, which I’m sure we will.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:59 pm

No, he said Van Gaal said he couldn't select him for the World Cup if he was playing in a second tier league.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Pickles » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:59 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:49 pm
He said he didn’t want to play for us again, do you kinda understand that.
Did he?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:59 pm

End of the day, anyone booing Weghorst is in theory booing Kompany, Kompany clearly wants him and is choosing to play him, so if we are at this stage the first game fans are able to watch then we are in for a long season

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:59 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:49 pm
He said he didn’t want to play for us again, do you kinda understand that.
Not the first time you’ve completely made something up.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:59 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm
You missed the word 'some' in front of 'Burnley' in your post there.

Don't assume that a few fans booing and abusing one of their own players or flying a 'white lives matter' banner behind an aeroplane are representative of all Burnley fans.
No I didn’t. There is a bigger proportion of Burnley fans that are knobheads/bellends than “some”.

There is a large proportion of Burnley fans that don’t deserve this club or the players that don the famous Claret and Blue.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by roperclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:00 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:32 pm
Verbally abusing? From the sounds of it an handful of people have been booing him, it's still very raw with people unhappy with him everything will die down, you are jumping to rash worse casebook scenario conclusions with no evidential basis for the far fetched findings.
So in your opinion is it ok for me to express myself by saying Jakubclaret is a w****r?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:00 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:58 pm
Slight overreaction to probably no more than a few knuckleheads being knuckleheads.

Weghorst doesn’t want to be here.

A large portion of our fans don’t want him to be here.

Probably best for all concerned that he’s moved on, and I’ll be amazed if he’s still with us come the end of the window.

But abusing our players is completely unacceptable, and if he is staying, then we need to get behind him, which I’m sure we will.
How do you know Weghorst doesn’t want to be here?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:01 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:51 pm
The arrogance of LC summed up in 1 post. Sorry we can’t all frequent the local wine bars though.


The important bit (which is really obvious to most) is that you shouldn't boo your own players during a game

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Spiral » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:01 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:55 pm
The guy just seems to bring negative vibes. Look how long it's taken for our fans to start arguing amongst themselves.
Now listen here, we were arguing among ourselves loooong before Wout showed up.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:02 pm

The idea that I go into wine bars is still making me chuckle Murger it has to be said

I don't even drink wine

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 pm

You going to boo Weghorst Murger?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by bumba » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 pm

Spiral wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:44 pm
Didn't mask his self-interested cynicism as well as 99% of other footballers; or rather, events transpired whereby his cynicism was revealed in spite of his best efforts to maintain the appearance of affection for the club that fans of all clubs yearn for - even if they don't truthfully expect of it - in their players- all this happened to a player who lacked the talent that would otherwise persuade fans that he really, truly is too good to be playing in the Championship. If goes something like this, to use a hypothetical: Mbappe, you don't want to play in the Championship? Yeh, sounds about right. Good luck to you in Madrid. Wout, you don't want to play in the Championship? Why? What've you done to earn that clemency?

I never really bothered that he left the way he did, I just don't see what he gives us, but I hope so much to be proven wrong.
Can you show me where he said he was too good for the championship? Which in all fairness going off his career before us he clearly was.
From what us fans know he had verbally agreed with the owners to be allowed to leave if relegated because Holland's manager had refused to pick him for his one and only chance to play at a world cup if he played in the championship, how many others jumped ship immediately without the chance of a world cup place yet we've had discussions about which we'd have back this season 😂
Boils down to this for me is he an upgrade on what we have??
He's better than JRod, Foster and Obafemi so he goes straight in as backup striker to Amdouni he could be the difference between staying up or going down

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:59 pm
Not the first time you’ve completely made something up.
But yet he's done jury service FOUR times apparently 🤔
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm

I don’t think Weghorst will be here on 2 September and I won’t be particularly disappointed, but until he goes we should support him (or at least refrain from booing him). For all we know he might be in VK’s plans.

Whether he can cut it in the PL is a separate discussion to how he “behaved”. I suspect he’ll struggle in our system, but I don’t hold it against him for not wanting to play in the Championship when presented with a better opportunity. Neither did Mee, Pope, Cornet, McNeil or Tarkowski.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 pm
You going to boo Weghorst Murger?
Not unless it’s from the pub, because he doesn’t attend games.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by TsarBomba » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:00 pm
How do you know Weghorst doesn’t want to be here?
Oh I don’t know, perhaps it’s the catalogue of reasons over the past 18 months..

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by forzagranata » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm

I've got no problem with fans booing players that they are unhappy about playing for the club. It's football. It's fans.

Personally I've never done it myself although if we had signed Simon Garner or David Dunn back in the day, I would have been sorely tempted.

The club only have themselves to blame for this situation though.

When Weghorst ambled back into Gawthorpe, he should have been sat down and told to do an interview with the club's website and explain why he wanted to be back at the club, how his move to Besiktas was no disrespect to the club and how he respects VK and is looking forward to working with him. Deal with the issues and move on.

Instead they posted an inane social media video where he is asked what he was looking forward to most about being back at Burnley and he sighed before his weak answer.

Offer him to Southampton in exchange for Nathan...
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:08 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm
I don’t think Weghorst will be here on 2 September and I won’t be particularly disappointed, but until he goes we should support him (or at least refrain from booing him). For all we know he might be in VK’s plans.

Whether he can cut it in the PL is a separate discussion to how he “behaved”. I suspect he’ll struggle in our system, but I don’t hold it against him for not wanting to play in the Championship when presented witness a better opportunity. Neither did Mee, Pope, Cornet, McNeil or Tarkowski.
Don't worry, the boo boys will catch them this season I reckon

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Murger » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:09 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 pm
You going to boo Weghorst Murger?
I don’t boo any players.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm
I've got no problem with fans booing players that they are unhappy about playing for the club. It's football. It's fans.

Personally I've never done it myself although if we had signed Simon Garner or David Dunn back in the day, I would have been sorely tempted.

The club only have themselves to blame for this situation though.

When Weghorst ambled back into Gawthorpe, he should have been sat down and told to do an interview with the club's website and explain why he wanted to be back at the club, how his move to Besiktas was no disrespect to the club and how he respects VK and is looking forward to working with him. Deal with the issues and move on.

Instead they posted an inane social media video where he is asked what he was looking forward to most about being back at Burnley and he sighed before his weak answer.

Offer him to Southampton in exchange for Nathan...
That kind of post makes me miss the body language experts

Look, he might not want to be here, he probably won't be here when the season kicks off, but if he is, then that will mean he's a Burnley player

Its not asking too much for him not to be booed is it?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:09 pm
I don’t boo any players.
So you agree with my post then?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm
Oh I don’t know, perhaps it’s the catalogue of reasons over the past 18 months..
Such as?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm
I've got no problem with fans booing players that they are unhappy about playing for the club. It's football. It's fans.

Personally I've never done it myself although if we had signed Simon Garner or David Dunn back in the day, I would have been sorely tempted.

The club only have themselves to blame for this situation though.

When Weghorst ambled back into Gawthorpe, he should have been sat down and told to do an interview with the club's website and explain why he wanted to be back at the club, how his move to Besiktas was no disrespect to the club and how he respects VK and is looking forward to working with him. Deal with the issues and move on.

Instead they posted an inane social media video where he is asked what he was looking forward to most about being back at Burnley and he sighed before his weak answer.

Offer him to Southampton in exchange for Nathan...
That only works if the club aren’t actively trying to sell him. For all we know, they are. In which case making him do an interview, only for him to leave again, would unfairly set him up to be maligned again.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:11 pm

roperclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:00 pm
So in your opinion is it ok for me to express myself by saying Jakubclaret is a w****r?
It’s your opinion & however you want to express it that’s fine, I’m far too thick skinned it’s water off a ducks back what you think.
If people want to boo WW that’s fine in my book, it’s up to WW to now redeem himself & let his football do the talking & shut some people up, I understand why people are booing him despite not fully agreeing with their actions.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:11 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm
So you agree with my post then?
No cos you go to wine bars apparently.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:12 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm
I don’t think Weghorst will be here on 2 September and I won’t be particularly disappointed, but until he goes we should support him (or at least refrain from booing him). For all we know he might be in VK’s plans.

Whether he can cut it in the PL is a separate discussion to how he “behaved”. I suspect he’ll struggle in our system, but I don’t hold it against him for not wanting to play in the Championship when presented with a better opportunity. Neither did Mee, Pope, Cornet, McNeil or Tarkowski.
If kompany didn’t intend of weghorst being at the club then he wouldn’t of been sub for foster, it would have been jay rod

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Spiral » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:12 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 pm
Can you show me where he said he was too good for the championship? Which in all fairness going off his career before us he clearly was.
From what us fans know he had verbally agreed with the owners to be allowed to leave if relegated because Holland's manager had refused to pick him for his one and only chance to play at a world cup if he played in the championship, how many others jumped ship immediately without the chance of a world cup place yet we've had discussions about which we'd have back this season 😂
I'm probably not the one you're looking for to labour that point, I honestly don't care that he left. I'm basically trying to articulate why I think it is that some fans think what think about him, and in the minds of those who have written him off not for his ability but for the way he left, the feeling of him being a deserter is not going to be remotely assuaged by the finer technical points surrounding his departure, about which you are entirely correct.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by davideyresleftear » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:13 pm

This board probably cares more about the booing than Wout does. It’s much awout about booing.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by forzagranata » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:14 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm
That kind of post makes me miss the body language experts

Look, he might not want to be here, he probably won't be here when the season kicks off, but if he is, then that will mean he's a Burnley player

Its not asking too much for him not to be booed is it?
You never booed Brian Laws or chanted Laws Out?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by bobinho » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:15 pm

So imagine this:

Ten minutes into the city game, Roberts fires a ball into the city box, Weghorst controls it and wallops it into the top corner. Connor has two choices here.

1. He turns away, ignores Wout and jogs back to our half whilst everyone else is celebrating the goal.
2. He chases down weghorst and jumps all over him showering him with kisses.

If it’s 1, they hate each other and we fans have to pick a side.
If it’s 2, then all is forgiven (whatever “all” was) and we all embrace Wout as the Dutch Harry Kane.

Alternatively, we can just put all this shite to bed and get behind everyone safe in the knowledge that if VK is keeping him around, that should be good enough for everyone else.

Booing a Burnley player whilst he’s on the pitch? That’s the domain of the brain dead and horse botherers. If you forget who you support when you’ve had a little drinky-poo, do us all a favour and stay home.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:15 pm

No mention of it (sensibly) in the post-VK match interview

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Murger » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:15 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm
So you agree with my post then?
No. People pay their money, they can do what they like. And I wouldn’t use drinking in spoons as an insult.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:16 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:12 pm
If kompany didn’t intend of weghorst being at the club then he wouldn’t of been sub for foster, it would have been jay rod
Depends on Jayrod’s fitness situation. Jay wasn’t on the bench. The teamsheet looked light on numbers.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Claretnick » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:16 pm

I am sure Tresor or any other player considering a move to Burnley would be mightily impressed hearing our so called support booing and abusing one of their own players.
Why can't folk use some common sense?

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