The summer Trafford/Muric dilemma

[Jakubclaret]

I think we’ve found the individual who decides how many points teams get deducted, people.

Or simply doing basic artithmetics. I don't subscribe to the logic that because we was in a advantageous position prior to something avoidable happening we have to settle for a draw when 3pts would have been likely more so with the Brighton game with the time left. With the Everton game you still have the 45+IT but you are still on course for a point without the rebound.

[Darthlaw]

Keep digging, we can still see you

[boatshed bill]

Try this Jakub:
A)We are winning = 3pts
B)We stop winning (draw) =1pt
Deduct B from A = ?

[Jakubclaret]

Try this Jakub:
A)We are winning = 3pts
B)We stop winning (draw) =1pt
Deduct B from A = ?

I know what you are saying I'm going full bloodied with the way I'm looking at it I'm not considering the draw as a fallback default position.

[boatshed bill]

I know what you are saying I'm going full bloodied with the way I'm looking at it I'm not considering the draw as a fallback default position.

That is actually brilliant

[Darthlaw]

Try this Jakub:
A)We are winning = 3pts
B)We stop winning (draw) =1pt
Deduct B from A = ?

(Win and a draw) 4 possible points minus (Draw and a loss) 1 point actual.

Jakub “we’d be 4 points better off”

[Vim Fuego]

No dilemma. Let’s face it, Trafford might have potential, but it has been a terrible bit of business. Dare I say one of our worst signings ever. We threw funds (15 to 19m) at something we did not need. That money could and should have been used elsewhere. Notwithstanding what it will cost us in terms of relegation, if you believe that we would have stayed up had Muric played all season. I do.

To buy Trafford was not necessary at all, and that money could and should have been spent elsewhere.

To dump Muric to the bench for the season opener was scandalous.

To continue to play Trafford was insanity. We are a passing team with instructions to play out from the back. Hello!!

To not realize the passing qualities and talent that Muric brings to this team is blind or unappreciative.

Realize the impact he brings to rest of our play. He makes quick decisions to find passing lines quicker and we get up the pitch safer and faster. We concede possession less and therefore have to defend less

Fans have been deprived of seeing this talent in action and Muric himself has been stagnated while not playing.

I’m using strong words but it is not an overreaction. Like us all, I’m passionate for us to stay up and this decision alone has played a massive part in preventing that.

This is not hindsight. It was staring us fans in the face, and was staring Kompany in the face. He should hang his head in shame over this. What was he thinking ?

[boatshed bill]

(Win and a draw) 4 possible points minus (Draw and a loss) 1 point actual.

Jakub “we’d be 4 points better off”

How about this (for the eternal optimists)

We have every chance of 2 wins = 6 pts in the bag
Error vs Brighton results in a draw -2
Error v Everton results in a loss -3

So he's cost us 5 pts.

[bumba]

Amazing really, scouts at one of the top clubs in the world obviously rate the lad and yet the experts on here don't.

Wouldn't say it's people on here saying they don't rate him and more than people on here after watching him weekly can see he isn't ready yet.
If Liverpool come in for him it's as a backup keeper who'll only play cup games for the next 2/3 maybe more years which would mean they see him the same as our fans.....a good backup goalie for now

[NewClaret]

If he's fuming it's his own doing for getting his pants pulled down & as for muric being worth £50mil I'm not sure how that's being projected on the back of 7 top flight games where he's failed to keep a clean sheet & apart from man u & Chelsea the quality of opposition hasn't been that vast most have been plodding midtable to lower placed sides & 1 at the rock bottom.

My point is that he has the potential to be. Of course not now after so few games but had he played all season at the level he’s played in his last games, plus another season on top, I think teams would start seeing him in that bracket given his distribution - there’s not many as good.

[Jakubclaret]

My point is that he has the potential to be. Of course not now after so few games but had he played all season at the level he’s played in his last games, plus another season on top, I think teams would start seeing him in that bracket given his distribution - there’s not many as good.

Some of the goals conceded is due to kompanys insistence/system that we have to play out from the back & there's been a lot of farting about with the players not having the skill to do that. I've lost count how many times they've lost possession in key dangerous areas conceding goals & putting us on a rearguard. I think there's been far too much emphasis on trying/asking the players to play a system they don't have the skill set & confidence to carry out & that's probably the major contributory reason we'll be relegated. A keepers job first & foremost is to stay put & sense danger & not play out leave people to do what they are comfortable doing.