Moyes

[boyyanno]

Genuinely can't believe that there's people on here turning their nose up at Moyes after the season we've just had.



I'd suggest after putting up our worst ever top flight points tally, with our highest ever expenditure then a slight change or if you want to call it a 'flip flop' might actually be wise.

Y'all really need to stop watching TifoFootball and following Tacticos on twitter.

Completely agree and I also think people forget what Dyche did with the team he inherited from Howe when he added the few bits he needed.

I wouldn't expect someone like Moyes to sell all the young technical players and go out and buy James Tomkins type players which I think is what is being portrayed.

I think a more pragmatic coach that could add a bit of discipline, strength, and also manage the squad well could help get the best out of the obvious technical quality we have.

It seems that at the moment people are defining managers by either Pep or Pulis as if there can be no balance between. Moyes has had success over a long period of time in the best league in the world. He's just come off the back of two top 10 finishes and the club were in the relegation zone when he first took over.

[HahaYeah]

I would be fine with Moyes but the question is really wether he would take a step down.

[CoolClaret]

Completely agree and I also think people forget what Dyche did with the team he inherited from Howe when he added the few bits he needed.

I wouldn't expect someone like Moyes to sell all the young technical players and go out and buy James Tomkins type players which I think is what is being portrayed.

I think a more pragmatic coach that could add a bit of discipline, strength, and also manage the squad well could help get the best out of the obvious technical quality we have.

It seems that at the moment people are defining managers by either Pep or Pulis as if there can be no balance between. Moyes has had success over a long period of time in the best league in the world. He's just come off the back of two top 10 finishes and the club were in the relegation zone when he first took over.

Precisely this mate.

It's not some binary option between 'total football' and Pulis' Stoke. I blame social media and the digital world; just no room for nuance at all - it's exhausting.

[burnleymik]

Precisely this mate.

It's not some binary option between 'total football' and Pulis' Stoke. I blame social media and the digital world; just no room for nuance at all - it's exhausting.

tell that to the West ham fans who watched every week for years....

[expoultryboy]

I personally would prefer Cooper , but i certainly wouldn't be adverse to Moyes .

[elwaclaret]

tell that to the West ham fans who watched every week for years....

The same West Ham fans that welcomed him back with open arms… then watched them take a European trophy and their star player sold from under the manager but still expected them to play like Brazil and challenge for the Champions league while out playing the top four… those West Ham fans?

[Beagle]

tell that to the West ham fans who watched every week for years....

In my experience Burnley fans don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur like our Cockney claret counterparts, so if Moyes had done for us what he did for them we’d be praising and thanking him, not calling for his head.

[burnleymik]

The same West Ham fans that welcomed him back with open arms… then watched them take a European trophy and their star player sold from under the manager but still expected them to play like Brazil and challenge for the Champions league while out playing the top four… those West Ham fans?

You can look from the outside and say what you want, but those are the people who watched every week, week in and week out for years. It was the same with Dyche, we knew he did a fantastic job for us, but it eventually got stale and boring. Everyone on the outside thought we were mad for sacking him. We have many parallels here, but I am amazed some of you just can't see it.

The difference was Moyes did get some backing from his board, Dyche did it on a shoe-string.

[Quicknick]

People who work in football are rarely at home anyway!

Makes me laugh the old comment ‘lives locally, knows the area.’

Moyes has lived in a flat Canary Wharf for the majority of the last few years.

The flat in Canary Wharf is where he has had to live [or somewhere similar]. This doesn't mean he wouldn't prefer living in his own house in the northwest.

[burnleymik]

In my experience Burnley fans don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur like our Cockney claret counterparts, so if Moyes had done for us what he did for them we’d be praising and thanking him, not calling for his head.

They were thanking him. Seems it just got tedious and as I already said there are many parallels to those last seasons with Dyche, where it was a struggle, but everyone thought we were bonkers for sacking him.

The major difference is Dyche did it with virtually no financial backing, Moyes has spent over £450m and it's still a tough watch. No doubt he has been a great manager, but those who watched his games every week are the ones who have the best idea. Same as we did with Dyche.

[elwaclaret]

You can look from the outside and say what you want, but those are the people who watched every week, week in and week out for years. It was the same with Dyche, we knew he did a fantastic job for us, but it eventually got stale and boring. Everyone on the outside thought we were mad for sacking him. We have many parallels here, but I am amazed some of you just can't see it.

The difference was Moyes did get some backing from his board, Dyche did it on a shoe-string.

A good friend of mine, Drew a drummer I’ve known since watching his London band The Scene in Haslingden in the mid eighties is far from happy David Moyes has left West Ham… words to the effect of when are they going to kin learn?

[burnleymik]

A good friend of mine, Drew a drummer I’ve known since watching his London band The Scene in Haslingden in the mid eighties is far from happy David Moyes has left West Ham… words to the effect of when are they going to kin learn?

Of course there will be a variety of opinions on it, same as there were with Dyche, but it seemed the consensus was that they thanked him, but they had had enough and wanted change.

[CoolClaret]

tell that to the West ham fans who watched every week for years....

They are possibly the most deluded fan base in England - and that's saying something.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

tell that to the West ham fans who watched every week for years....

They didn't seem to bothered about a style of football when singing their Champions of Europe song at the Turf this year

[burnleymik]

They are possibly the most deluded fan base in England - and that's saying something.

Just google Burnley sack Sean Dyche and the same was said about us. We watched every week, we knew it was going stale.

[taio]

Just google Burnley sack Sean Dyche and the same was said about us. We watched every week, we knew it was going stale.

Playing style is different to things going stale. The overwhelming majority of supporters were supportive of Dyche throughout. Rightly so.

[Rick_Muller]

I would be fine with Moyes but the question is really wether he would take a step down.

Would only be a step down for 12 months, then he can show West Ham why they’re daft to pot him

[burnleymik]

Playing style is different to things going stale. The overwhelming majority of supporters were supportive of Dyche throughout. Rightly so.

The two go hand-in-hand.....

[HahaYeah]

Would only be a step down for 12 months, then he can show West Ham why they’re daft to pot him

I agree and I hope he feels that way himself. He has the experience and the know how and lives nearby, would be a great job for him and us.

[CoolClaret]

Just google Burnley sack Sean Dyche and the same was said about us. We watched every week, we knew it was going stale.

We had problems not even 1.1 seasons into VK's tenure - Dyche gave us 9.5 years, vastly different in every which way.

[taio]

The two go hand-in-hand.....

They may do for you but not for everyone.

[NewClaret]

I would be fine with Moyes but the question is really wether he would take a step down.

If he lives in lytham maybe he’s not averse to a 3 year project?

[burnleymik]

We had problems not even 1.1 seasons into VK's tenure - Dyche gave us 9.5 years, vastly different in every which way.

Except we are drawing parallels with Dyche and Moyes, not VK.

[burnleymik]

They may do for you but not for everyone.

They do for everyone. It's directly related to the way you play if things go stale, unless there is a lot of things happening behind the scenes, which didn't seem to be the case for Dyche or Moyes.

[taio]

They do for everyone. It's directly related to the way you play if things go stale, unless there is a lot of things happening behind the scenes, which didn't seem to be the case for Dyche or Moyes.

I've no issue with things going stale after years of success and great times.

[burnleymik]

I've no issue with things going stale after years of success and great times.

Neither did the West Ham fans, hence he was there almost 4 and a half years.

[HahaYeah]

If he lives in lytham maybe he’s not averse to a 3 year project?

I don't know about projects but it could be a welcome short commute for him after London and I know someone got laughed at the other day for saying he is a Christian but that won't go against him either.

[CoolClaret]

Except we are drawing parallels with Dyche and Moyes, not VK.

Why would we be doing exclusively that when we're discussing VKs successor?

If West Ham fans want to complain about it 'going stale' after having multiple top half finishes and a European cup then good for them.

Yes it went stale here under Dyche but we had some bloody good years - I mentioned VK because it went stale after one bloody season, let alone 9!

[NewClaret]

I don't know about projects but it could be a welcome short commute for him after London and I know someone got laughed at the other day for saying he is a Christian but that won't go against him either.

Didn’t know he was a Christian either but I’d be surprised if Alan lets that play a role in who he recruits.

I’d reckon he’d recruit the devil if he were guarenteed an automatic promotion Nor would I blame him

I’d not be against Moyes, but it wouldn’t excite me and it’s a big departure from where we’ve looked to be heading.

[ecc]

I wouldn't be bothered what West Ham fans think. They are so fickle it's not true.

[123EasyasBFC]

tell that to the West ham fans who watched every week for years....

West Ham universally known as being rational folk haven’t they

[IanMcL]

Please come to Burnley, Mr Moyes.

[burnleymik]

West Ham universally known as being rational folk haven’t they

Sort of like yourself really.

[123EasyasBFC]

Sort of like yourself really.

For myself I would go with opinionated but happily appreciative of a good post or idea

[Casper2]

Clueless post.

£100m+ transfer fee for a player who spoke very highly of David Moyes:

https://onefootball.com/en/news/declan- ... s-38193288

Believe what you want , I know different .

[IanMcL]

Sign him on

[dandeclaret]

Just google Burnley sack Sean Dyche and the same was said about us. We watched every week, we knew it was going stale.

And then they spent £100m and got 24 points.... but at least it wasn't stale eh?

[Jakubclaret]

Like a breath of fresh air it's a feeling that just can't be beaten. I'd take solidly stale any day of the week.

[Neil]

I remember Charlton fans years ago thinking it was stale with Alan Curbishley. Finishing around 8th every year wasn't good enough.
What they wouldn't give for stale now!

[CoolClaret]

I quite enjoyed not having a circus and lots of incomings and outgoings every summer for what will be the third year on the bounce.

Ok the first summer was 'exciting' if you will but it's grown old quickly; thinking about it, I'm longing for the stability of the Dyche era where I/we could switch off after the season ended and look forward to Summer (and cricket!).. The uncertainty felt during these periods without a manager and having a squad in limbo isn't the best - god knows how Watford fans have coped over the years.

[burnleymik]

And then they spent £100m and got 24 points.... but at least it wasn't stale eh?

Actually no, it wasn't. It was rubbish, but he just about had enough credit in the bank for the fans to still stick with it.

You can surely understand the difference?

[IanMcL]

Lest we forget.

[Carlos the Great]

When you hear Cooper doesn’t want the job surely we would be very lucky if Moyes wanted to come . He might come but it’s nothing to do wing he knows the area

[helmclaret]

Not a chance Moyes would be interested.

[dougcollins]

'Lives locally'.

Is he gonna turn up on the bus?

[IanMcL]

Looking grim. Looks like we are going for glitter over substance.

[helmclaret]

I don’t know how to break this to you Ian, but it was never going to be Moyes.

[Hibsclaret]

How many people on here would be happy to go back to a job they did 20 years earlier when they have progressed a couple of levels above that?

This is why he won’t be doing it. As for the local aspect of it, he has had the last 4 years in East London. It just won’t happen. We would be just as likely to get Guardiola.

[CoolClaret]

How many people on here would be happy to go back to a job they did 20 years earlier when they have progressed a couple of levels above that?

This is why he won’t be doing it. As for the local aspect of it, he has had the last 4 years in East London. It just won’t happen. We would be just as likely to get Guardiola.

Depends really, if I was getting on a bit and maybe wanted to spend more time closer to home and the wages were good and I was walking into a place that had scope to grow then I'd definitely think about it...

[Aclaret]

Depends really, if I was getting on a bit and maybe wanted to spend more time closer to home and the wages were good and I was walking into a place that had scope to grow then I'd definitely think about it...

I'd be up for it CC.....He's 61, no real need to go chasing the £, could work 1 hour from home every day and still have time to get back and walk the dog on Lytham Beach, make Mrs Moyes her Tea or go into St Anne's for Fish & Chips....