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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:49 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:43 pm
What's weird is that some of our fan base don't yet seem to recognise the owners for what they are.

For all the crap about how they would significantly raise income streams from various sources it's quite clear the real plan is to "squeeze every penny" and rip off supporters for as much as they can.

From what I can see prices are up across the board from the previous Championship season and it looks to be a significant percentage increase. That's to add on to the other increases too.


Anyone defending these jokers is just okaying a regime that is clearly going to hike prices with no care for the fans.
The vast majority (95%?) will be paying less than 20 quid a match. Not sure how that constitutes ripping the fans off.
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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:50 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:45 pm
What would you suggest? Picket lines outside the Bob Lord entrance?
Suggest in relation to what?

I mean come on mate- if you don't have the ability to debate a topic please refrain from posting nonsense that doesn't make sense.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:50 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:43 pm
What's weird is that some of our fan base don't yet seem to recognise the owners for what they are.

For all the crap about how they would significantly raise income streams from various sources it's quite clear the real plan is to "squeeze every penny" and rip off supporters for as much as they can.

From what I can see prices are up across the board from the previous Championship season and it looks to be a significant percentage increase. That's to add on to the other increases too.

Anyone defending these jokers is just okaying a regime that is clearly going to hike prices with no care for the fans.
Doesn’t season ticket value for money rank as one of the best in the Championship?
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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:54 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:49 pm
The vast majority (95%?) will be paying less than 20 quid a match. Not sure how that constitutes ripping the fans off.
I don't know where anyone has suggested season tickets are rip offs?

What I do know is charging significantly more for a product that we saw for significantly less 2 seasons ago- with price hikes everywhere- from food to concession tickets- is ripping fans off in my opinion.

I've articulated why. It would be nice if people could actually respond to what's been written instead of what hasn't.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:01 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:50 pm
Doesn’t season ticket value for money rank as one of the best in the Championship?
There are a few points with this, firstly I recognise season tickets are good value currently- no one has said otherwise.

What a lot are missing though is that season tickets have ALWAYS been good value at our club. Thanking Alan Pace for not significantly raising season ticket prices while he raises everything else is a bit daft isn't it?

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Holtyclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:10 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:54 pm
I don't know where anyone has suggested season tickets are rip offs?

What I do know is charging significantly more for a product that we saw for significantly less 2 seasons ago- with price hikes everywhere- from food to concession tickets- is ripping fans off in my opinion.

I've articulated why. It would be nice if people could actually respond to what's been written instead of what hasn't.

How’s inflation been over last two years? Can you think of any product/service price that’s been unaffected?

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:12 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:01 pm
There are a few points with this, firstly I recognise season tickets are good value currently- no one has said otherwise.

What a lot are missing though is that season tickets have ALWAYS been good value at our club. Thanking Alan Pace for not significantly raising season ticket prices while he raises everything else is a bit daft isn't it?
My season ticket has gone up 37% since promotion in 2023 and that’s in the same seat and the same category.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:15 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:27 pm
He cares about season ticket holders feeling all warm and fuzzy inside about the great value season they they have just bought?

Is that because seniors got a 25% increase with young adults much more, as much as a 142% increase in one area?
Yes, they are abhorrent, but presumably Matchday prices have seen similar increases? So I think my point is valid that the aim of the game is more focussed on improving the perception of value of season tickets.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:19 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:01 pm
There are a few points with this, firstly I recognise season tickets are good value currently- no one has said otherwise.

What a lot are missing though is that season tickets have ALWAYS been good value at our club. Thanking Alan Pace for not significantly raising season ticket prices while he raises everything else is a bit daft isn't it?
Not thanking him by any means, just providing context to the ‘they are jokers, they are ripping everyone off and squeezing every last penny etc’, if that was the case season tickets (near record sales this season?) would surely not be in the bottom third of Champ prices - so as much as I recognise £55 is dear and daft (albeit there’s only around 10 seats available per match for this price) I think balance should be provided.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by blsclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:19 pm

Blame stupid wages for blokes kicking a ball around.
Bring ALL wages down, inc Premier League, by 50% and players will still earn a small fortune.

Blame Premier League and Sky for inflating costs for the common man/person.

No reality.

I'm not paying £55

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Row x » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:19 pm
Not thanking him by any means, just providing context to the ‘they are jokers, they are ripping everyone off and squeezing every last penny etc’, if that was the case season tickets (near record sales this season?) would surely not be in the bottom third of Champ prices - so as much as I recognise £55 is dear and daft (albeit there’s only around 10 seats available per match for this price) I think balance should be provided.
It's like a lot of things
Plane tickets are cheapest if bought early
You pay more for prime seats
You pay more when there's only 5 prime seats left, yet most planes are full
Thearte tickets are the same
Concert tickets the same... Best seats cost more, I wouldn't pay £55 behind the pillars in the bob lord, but they don't cost that.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:15 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:19 pm
Not thanking him by any means, just providing context to the ‘they are jokers, they are ripping everyone off and squeezing every last penny etc’, if that was the case season tickets (near record sales this season?) would surely not be in the bottom third of Champ prices - so as much as I recognise £55 is dear and daft (albeit there’s only around 10 seats available per match for this price) I think balance should be provided.
I accept the balance that season tickets are still good value, that’s a fair enough point. I'm not convinced that that's down to the current ownership though, raising season tickets for everyone at once would definitely see a major drop in sales, so instead that's been smaller increases (although as CT has posted significant for some). From what I've seen they have increased everything else significantly though- as you've said £55 pounds for a ticket is daft but I do accept there's not "many" of those seats. The rest of our pricing has jumped a decent chunk for walk ons in comparison though- I think the prices are earlier on the thread.

At the moment I still consider the ownership group to owe the club x amount of millions, so maybe I was a bit harsh but I do think this is the way it's going under this regime- I haven't seen much to suggest that we've grown our revenue streams much which was the aim and it seems like its the fans that are going to do that. Garlick could have raised all the prices.

As a season ticket holder who isn't a concession I could just enjoy my position but I feel uncomfortable about this ownership group. I'm happy to accept my post has significant bias because of this to be fair.

Appreciate your posts though R.V I enjoy the debate.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Leisure » Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:30 pm

blsclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:19 pm
Blame stupid wages for blokes kicking a ball around.
Bring ALL wages down, inc Premier League, by 50% and players will still earn a small fortune.

Blame Premier League and Sky for inflating costs for the common man/person.

No reality.

I'm not paying £55
But you don't need to to attend a game!

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:35 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:50 pm
Suggest in relation to what?

I mean come on mate- if you don't have the ability to debate a topic please refrain from posting nonsense that doesn't make sense.
You're rabble rousing. Lean in to it or sit down 😂

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:57 pm

blsclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:19 pm
Blame stupid wages for blokes kicking a ball around.
Bring ALL wages down, inc Premier League, by 50% and players will still earn a small fortune.

Blame Premier League and Sky for inflating costs for the common man/person.

No reality.

I'm not paying £55
Agree with all of the above. I have a season ticket luckily but many fans are being priced out and particularly fans who can’t attend many games so don’t get season tickets. I wouldn’t pay £55 on principle. You’d think it would all implode but while there are Far Eastern gambling companies and billionaires who want play things it will just carry on. There’s no real connection between fans and players anymore. Players could be paid a £million an hour it’s now got so stupid.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by NL Claret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:23 pm

As pointed out in the thread STs are value for money for ST holder.

Not for the club. If the club wants to maximise revenue then don’t have season tickets or offer some form of season ticket.

I’ve not looked into the platinum club thing however does that dilute the benefits of having a ST?

Put up the prices of those who don’t spend much in the ground, OAPs.

Most things these days have barcodes, the club used to have an app that showed me when I entered the ground. The club would know that entering the ground at 2.58pm the only thing I’d be spending is a penny.

It’s not just a Burnley thing. My mate who supports United used to get emails encouraging him to get in the ground early to enjoy the concourse offerings and that entering the ground at 10 to 3 was a H&S hazard.

A lot of clubs will employ a similar model where they will continue to squeeze as much cash out of the paying punter as possible.

The choice is yours, I can afford it however it is above the price I’m willing to pay.

Non league and the armchair for me.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Leisure » Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:41 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:23 pm
As pointed out in the thread STs are value for money for ST holder.

Not for the club. If the club wants to maximise revenue then don’t have season tickets or offer some form of season ticket.

I’ve not looked into the platinum club thing however does that dilute the benefits of having a ST?

Put up the prices of those who don’t spend much in the ground, OAPs.

Most things these days have barcodes, the club used to have an app that showed me when I entered the ground. The club would know that entering the ground at 2.58pm the only thing I’d be spending is a penny.

It’s not just a Burnley thing. My mate who supports United used to get emails encouraging him to get in the ground early to enjoy the concourse offerings and that entering the ground at 10 to 3 was a H&S hazard.

A lot of clubs will employ a similar model where they will continue to squeeze as much cash out of the paying punter as possible.

The choice is yours, I can afford it however it is above the price I’m willing to pay.

Non league and the armchair for me.
Thanks for sharing.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:54 pm

Sad to see how many people are trying to defend the prices. Its no wonder football fans get shafted in this country when some seem to actively welcome it.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Row x » Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:10 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:54 pm
Sad to see how many people are trying to defend the prices. Its no wonder football fans get shafted in this country when some seem to actively welcome it.
Nobody is being shafted
You can choose to pay £55, for certain games in the costliest seats
Or you can choose a lower category game and pay less for the same seat
Or you could choose to sit in other cheaper areas of the ground for less every game
Or you can buy a very good value season ticket
Or you can choose not to go on any game

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Leisure » Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:50 pm

Music fans say they are being "forced out" of attending major gigs, after tickets for Sabrina Carpenter's upcoming tour went on sale for more than £200.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:28 pm

Leisure wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:50 pm
Music fans say they are being "forced out" of attending major gigs, after tickets for Sabrina Carpenter's upcoming tour went on sale for more than £200.
Tbf she's better looking than our lot :D

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Leisure » Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:35 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:28 pm
Tbf she's better looking than our lot :D
Must say I've never even heard of her.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by CardyTheClaret » Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:45 pm

Get Lee Hoos back. He had a much better grasp on this.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Jacko » Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:52 pm

Even if it were just one ticket, £55 is an outrageous, unjustified price increase. I fear it'll get worse. I would hope the majority of out fans could agree that in principle prices should be kept down and owners and we, at the very least, shouldn't be dismissing concerns that things are going in the wrong direction.

Just because modern football is rife with profiteering doesn't mean those who dislike it are naive idiots.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:40 am

If we are to be financially competitive with other clubs, transfer fees and wages, to attract quality players to our club, how do you suggest we do it without significantly increasing match day income. It will be interesting to see where we rank in 'the league table" of championship clubs on match day income this season.
We have made efforts to bring in more club investors and we have to consider all ways to increase monies into the club.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by RammyClaret61 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:12 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:40 am
If we are to be financially competitive with other clubs, transfer fees and wages, to attract quality players to our club, how do you suggest we do it without significantly increasing match day income. It will be interesting to see where we rank in 'the league table" of championship clubs on match day income this season.
We have made efforts to bring in more club investors and we have to consider all ways to increase monies into the club.
Come on… not that old chestnut. It’s only a few months ago everyone was saying matchday revenue was irrelevant to clubs these days.
Let’s make our minds up.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by bumba » Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:22 am

No reason at all to charge £55 a ticket for a match on the Turf or any football ground around the world.
I'm still waiting to see if food and drink prices come down as pints almost doubled with us being told it was down to premier league prices

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:34 am

bumba wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:22 am
No reason at all to charge £55 a ticket for a match on the Turf or any football ground around the world.
I'm still waiting to see if food and drink prices come down as pints almost doubled with us being told it was down to premier league prices
I saw somebody post something yesterday that it was £10 for a pie & pint 😳

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by bumba » Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:49 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:34 am
I saw somebody post something yesterday that it was £10 for a pie & pint 😳
Sounds about right I think they scrapped the meal deals and a pint was £6 for San Miguel so I imagine a pie to be at least £4.
We've gone from good ale off Bowland Brewery at £2.50 a pint to £6 for San Miguel

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Offaly_Clarets IRE » Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:53 am

They're cheating here by advertising the Barnfield prices even though the whole stand is sold out for season tickets so advertising the cheapest ticket at £25 isn't actually true.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:58 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:14 pm
Who on earth was mocking them for freezing prices. A lot of clubs have frozen prices for a lot longer than us, Stoke for example have not increased prices since 2007.
Well done Denise Coates and Bet365 on keeping ticket prices frozen as they start their 7th season in the Championship

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:00 am

If the ground is just about full for most games, then they've got the pricing just right.

I'm really not sure which bit of "supply and demand" economics people simply can't grasp.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Row x » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:03 am

bumba wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:49 am
Sounds about right I think they scrapped the meal deals and a pint was £6 for San Miguel so I imagine a pie to be at least £4.
We've gone from good ale off Bowland Brewery at £2.50 a pint to £6 for San Miguel
The price of pies at football have always been a rip off whoever was in charge
Beer has gone up everywhere, £5-£6 is normal for a decent lager
Can you get Bowland Brewery beer at £2.50 a pint anywhere now?

I don't buy any food or drink at turf moor, there's plenty of local alternatives

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:04 am

bumba wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:49 am
Sounds about right I think they scrapped the meal deals and a pint was £6 for San Miguel so I imagine a pie to be at least £4.
We've gone from good ale off Bowland Brewery at £2.50 a pint to £6 for San Miguel
What season was it £2.50 a pint in the ground ?

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:06 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:58 am
Well done Denise Coates and Bet365 on keeping ticket prices frozen as they start their 7th season in the Championship
It probably helps being a billionaire too tbh.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:08 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:06 am
It probably helps being a billionaire too tbh.
Yup not the best club to use as an example

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by bumba » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:18 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:04 am
What season was it £2.50 a pint in the ground ?
Don't know if it was the same in the ground but the fanzone was £2.50 a pint only a couple of seasons ago.
Don't think we had Bowland in the ground did we? All I remember was warm bottles of carlsberg

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:22 am

bumba wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:18 am
Don't know if it was the same in the ground but the fanzone was £2.50 a pint only a couple of seasons ago.
Don't think we had Bowland in the ground did we? All I remember was warm bottles of carlsberg
I have never used the fanzone didn't even know they sold that back then, haven't bought a pint in the ground for a good while as you say it was Carlsberg which is rancid even if ice cold. I know it was San Miguel last season but I would have had to go down about 15 minutes after kick off to get served at half time it was that bad in the longside upper, I also wouldn't pay £6 for that so don't bother.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by bumba » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:25 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:22 am
I have never used the fanzone didn't even know they sold that back then, haven't bought a pint in the ground for a good while as you say it was Carlsberg which is rancid even if ice cold. I know it was San Miguel last season but I would have had to go down about 15 minutes after kick off to get served at half time it was that bad in the longside upper, I also wouldn't pay £6 for that so don't bother.
Yes we had Bowland Brewery in the fanzone and the double decker bus outside, I might be remembering wrong but I'm sure they used to be some sort of discount if you went down before 1pm too.
Isn't worth the money now for rubbish lager.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:29 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:58 am
Well done Denise Coates and Bet365 on keeping ticket prices frozen as they start their 7th season in the Championship
And well done to them for keeping prices frozen during ten successive seasons in the Premier League.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by andyh » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:42 am

I’m old enough to remember my season ticket being less than that.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:44 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:29 am
And well done to them for keeping prices frozen during ten successive seasons in the Premier League.
Your season ticket works out about £15 a game for the dearest seat in the ground. Find it hard to understand that with this eye watering increase in your ticket you then purchase tickets from other clubs at double this price to go to their ground.
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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:36 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:44 am
Your season ticket works out about £15 a game for the dearest seat in the ground. Find it hard to understand that with this eye watering increase in your ticket you then purchase tickets from other clubs at double this price to go to their ground.
What absolute nonsense - what I pay for away tickets is not relevant at all. My season ticket has gone up 37% since promotion in 2023. I don't actually give a **** what you think about how I spend my money and it's not for you to understand either. I won't post what I think of you, I'd have to ban myself.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Spike » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:42 am

I fully expect to see Pace with a hooped jumper , swag bag and mask based on these prices

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:48 am

BFC could charge £100 and sit someone in the cricket club and there'd still be the same few snidey voices on here telling people the club is a business and it's wrong to criticise it.
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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by The Shire Claret » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:53 am

I do think £55 for a ticket in the Championship is too expensive £40 should be the max IMO

If we don’t get promoted back to the PL next season they may have a bit of a shock on their hands.

In fact … if we are nowhere near come Jan …. They may get the shock then

No matter what - we are a town team and rely on the town and surrounding areas to come and watch.

The demographic dictates that if we stagnate in the championship at these prices …. We will be back to 12-14k attendances a game

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On the beer and pie prices - I used to buy the pie and pint deal and get my lad the meal deal ….

I now don’t spent a penny at the turf - unless it’s freezing and I’ll get a benni

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:02 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:58 am
Well done Denise Coates and Bet365 on keeping ticket prices frozen as they start their 7th season in the Championship
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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Dyched » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:02 am

I’d be more worried being a season ticket holder seeing these walk on prices. I haven’t had a ST for around 10 years due to work etc. I haven’t now been on for 2 seasons. So I’m out of the routine of going which is crazy as I never thought I’d ever feel like that. For me there’s such a huge gap between the game price between the ST price and walk on that the club will close that gap back up. So those with STs and have been going for decades will find it hard to simply walk away from price increases.

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by Cornwallclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:13 am

For someone like me living in Devon I’m lucky if I can get to 3 home games a season so buying a season ticket wouldn’t work. I do tend to pick games I know I’ll get tickets for( lesser teams, non derbies etc) and I treat it like an occasion and maximise my day as much as possible so unfortunately I’ll pay whatever the rate is and sit where I can get

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Re: £55 for a home ticket

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:21 am

Cornwallclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:13 am
For someone like me living in Devon I’m lucky if I can get to 3 home games a season so buying a season ticket wouldn’t work. I do tend to pick games I know I’ll get tickets for( lesser teams, non derbies etc) and I treat it like an occasion and maximise my day as much as possible so unfortunately I’ll pay whatever the rate is and sit where I can get
TBH the season ticket for me is the cheap bit, and it lets friends and family use it when i can't.

When i do go, it can cost about the same as my ST for 2 games so hey.

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