Lyle Foster

[ClaretPete001]

Now that Foster has recovered sell him.

Given your critique of him and thinking with your business head - do you think we will get Eur11 million for him.

Seems to be a bit of a logic fail tbh.

[ClaretTony]

We did throw in that horror show at Millwall but we have put some good performances in away from home. Let's hope for another one tomorrow.

Welcome back Lyle.

We certainly did. Dreadful that day.

[alf_resco]

I posted on another thread a while ago that if you wiki his career stats, they're pretty poor from a supposed "striker."
Dress it up all you want but forgetting the missed games and his problems, he averages about one in six.
He's hardly going to suddenly turn into Erling Haaland.

[Big Vinny K]

Now that Foster has recovered sell him.

Genius
Such a simple game this footy lark

Are you one of the fans who sing “Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack” ?

[IanMcL]

Parker could have tried something similar against Derby with Flemming behind Jay

Too expansive for Scotty

Pity. Teams that are overall 'better than most' and go for it, tend to win most.

[Jakubclaret]

Yes because everyone with mental health problems should be consigned to the scrap heap, shouldn’t they?

No one ever turns mental health problems around and goes on to thrive, do they?

Thankfully, the world is waking up a little, Jakub.

Of course not did I say that! But you can't get away with fully knowing something & when the situation goes sh1tshaped play we didn't know card & act all surprised things have turned out the way there have. We took the gamble & when you gamble it's not always guaranteed to pay off you can't really complain about it.

[Blyclaret]

Genius
Such a simple game this footy lark

Are you one of the fans who sing “Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack” ?

No im not

[Blyclaret]

Given your critique of him and thinking with your business head - do you think we will get Eur11 million for him.

Seems to be a bit of a logic fail tbh.

Ipswich were supposed to bid £25m for him in summer … id take half and reinvest in a proper striker.

[ClaretPete001]

We didn't have a striker against Millwall albeit we could have gone 4-4-2 with Jay Rod and Flemming.

The issue against Derby was likely that Jay Rod is 35 and unfortunately he still looks head and shoulders above the others in terms of quality, leading the line and being a threat in the box but he won't make 46 games.

Anthony looks quite mercurial and Kolosheo has to make the transition from an athlete into a footballer.

The answer could be 4-4-2 at home and 4-5-1 away but I suspect Scott Parker will feel that 14 points out of a possible 18 in the last 6 games doesn't require major changes.

I mean that's the irony of it: 14 points in the last 6 games.......!

The problem is both Leeds and Sheffield United have achieved similar and look likely to continue doing so.

[ClaretPete001]

Ipswich were supposed to bid £25m for him in summer … id take half and reinvest in a proper striker.

I don't know how seriously you can take these stories but as far as I understood it - it was a proposed loan deal, which would have left us with no strikers and no money to buy a new one.

I wouldn't put it past ALK but seems a bit far fetched to me

[bfcjg]

We didn't have a striker against Millwall albeit we could have gone 4-4-2 with Jay Rod and Flemming.

The issue against Derby was likely that Jay Rod is 35 and unfortunately he still looks head and shoulders above the others in terms of quality, leading the line and being a threat in the box but he won't make 46 games.

Anthony looks quite mercurial and Kolosheo has to make the transition from an athlete into a footballer.

The answer could be 4-4-2 at home and 4-5-1 away but I suspect Scott Parker will feel that 14 points out of a possible 18 in the last 6 games doesn't require major changes.

I mean that's the irony of it: 14 points in the last 6 games.......!

The problem is both Leeds and Sheffield United have achieved similar and look likely to continue doing so.

Very good points made, I still maintain that those 2 teams cannot play any better,whereas we certainly can and I'm sure with a decent forward we will.

[Row x]

We didn't have a striker against Millwall albeit we could have gone 4-4-2 with Jay Rod and Flemming.

The issue against Derby was likely that Jay Rod is 35 and unfortunately he still looks head and shoulders above the others in terms of quality, leading the line and being a threat in the box but he won't make 46 games.

Anthony looks quite mercurial and Kolosheo has to make the transition from an athlete into a footballer.

The answer could be 4-4-2 at home and 4-5-1 away but I suspect Scott Parker will feel that 14 points out of a possible 18 in the last 6 games doesn't require major changes.

I mean that's the irony of it: 14 points in the last 6 games.......!

The problem is both Leeds and Sheffield United have achieved similar and look likely to continue doing so.

I don't think Flemming could play against Millwall

[gawthorpe_view]

Foster and Flemming up top, F&F, or Tesco's if you prefer.

[Sorry]

[GetIntoEm]

Fantastic news, I think we will be a different proposition with Lyle back up top. UTC

[aggi]

Ipswich were supposed to bid £25m for him in summer … id take half and reinvest in a proper striker.

That £25m bid was just according to some bloke on twitter who, for whatever reason, loads of Burnley fans seemed to take his word as gospel during an increasingly hysterical period.

[dougcollins]

Genius
Such a simple game this footy lark

Are you one of the fans who sing “Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack” ?

Last person I heard doing that was Rocky.

[DCWat]

Of course not did I say that! But you can't get away with fully knowing something & when the situation goes sh1tshaped play we didn't know card & act all surprised things have turned out the way there have. We took the gamble & when you gamble it's not always guaranteed to pay off you can't really complain about it.

I’ve not heard any such complaints from those that made the purchase, nor seen any evidence of surprise at any shitshapedness.

[KRBFC]

Fantastic news, I think we will be a different proposition with Lyle back up top. UTC

Why are we pretending like we haven’t seen Lyle play before?

[Jakubclaret]

I’ve not heard any such complaints from those that made the purchase, nor seen any evidence of surprise at any shitshapedness.

You wouldn't, you'd be hardly likely to see any sort of self admission. If you think he's bang in form or hasn't been off the boil even discounting any injury periods you are entitled to your opinion.

[ecc]

Very good points made, I still maintain that those 2 teams cannot play any better,whereas we certainly can and I'm sure with a decent forward we will.

I think you make a very good point there, bfcjg.

I haven't seen enough of SU and DL but I get the feeling they probably can't do much better whereas most of us regularly feel we can improve. If only one of our forwards starts scoring regularly. We'll need it because draws aren't enough. But there's hope.

[DCWat]

You wouldn't, you'd be hardly likely to see any sort of self admission. If you think he's bang in form or hasn't been off the boil even discounting any injury periods you are entitled to your opinion.

You’re flip flopping between different arguments. I’ve not suggested that he has been bang in form or hasn’t been off the boil (two sides of the same coin, no?) as such, I’m not sure of your point.

[Jakubclaret]

You’re flip flopping between different arguments. I’ve not suggested that he has been bang in form or hasn’t been off the boil (two sides of the same coin, no?) as such, I’m not sure of your point.

The point being everything is kind of interconnected resulting as a consequence of loss of form. It's understandable considering the circumstances which was always a possibility prior to signing it's nothing that wasn't disclosed before. There's no flip flopping going on at all the course of the discussion I'm maintaining.

[Vegas Claret]

we really need Lyle back firing at a level he's rarely reached. hopefully the time off the pitch will have made him analyse his game - both his strengths and weaknesses

[Newcastleclaret93]

I still think he’s the best striker in the league.

I have watched a lot of Leeds, Boro, Sunderland. None of the lads have his raw ability.

But they all have better wingers and attackers offering good service.

I still think we are crying out for some better players on the wing and in the ten.

The stats don’t lie our attackers are creating next to nothing this season (no wonder every striker we have tried is suffering)

[Vincent'sCap]

We need a new striker in January i think LF has proven he's not good enough to lead our attack in the time he's been at the Turf

[jrgbfc]

I still think he’s the best striker in the league.

I have watched a lot of Leeds, Boro, Sunderland. None of the lads have his raw ability.

But they all have better wingers and attackers offering good service.

I still think we are crying out for some better players on the wing and in the ten.

The stats don’t lie our attackers are creating next to nothing this season (no wonder every striker we have tried is suffering)

Based on what? A handfull of good games when he looked up for it. Pressure on him to start showing more and justify the money and faith thats been shown in him.

[Goliath]

I think he's definitely worth a try from the left. If we used a system something like the below, he could be used to exploit the spaces created by Jay Rod dropping deep.
We could then also use Sarmiento to drift over to the left to overload that area and cover him defensively.

If he still doesn't get goals then we'd have to consider whether he ever will

Koleosho.......Sarmiento...Foster
...................Jay Rod

[Newcastleclaret93]

Based on what? A handfull of good games when he looked up for it. Pressure on him to start showing more and justify the money and faith thats been shown in him.

Based on the fact he had 8 goal contributions in 23 games last season in the premier league.

He’s got all the raw ability in the world (we saw it with his assist early this season).

But it can’t be denied we are just simply not creating enough for our strikers. Our three attacking players (Anthony, Sarmiento and Anthony all rank outside the top 100 players in the league for big chances created). Regardless of how we spin it that is just simply not good enough.

Foster if he is given service will score goals.

[fidelcastro]

Based on the fact he had 8 goal contributions in 23 games last season in the premier league.

He’s got all the raw ability in the world (we saw it with his assist early this season).

But it can’t be denied we are just simply not creating enough for our strikers. Our three attacking players (Anthony, Sarmiento and Anthony all rank outside the top 100 players in the league for big chances created). Regardless of how we spin it that is just simply not good enough.

Foster if he is given service will score goals.

You must be expecting him to be a bit of a late developer then. He hasn't scored regularly anywhere in his career.

[alf_resco]

Foster if he is given service will score goals.

Based on his whole career he might just manage 1 in every 6.
So if he ever does play a 46 game Champ season, you can expect about 7 or 8 goals.

I have nothing against the bloke and wish him well - I just happen to think he's not a very good striker.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Based on his whole career he might just manage 1 in every 6.
So if he ever does play a 46 game Champ season, you can expect about 7 or 8 goals.

I have nothing against the bloke and wish him well - I just happen to think he's not a very good striker.

I would hazard a guess there’s not a single striker in this league that would get 8 plus in our set up

[Ampth7]

I agree Newcastle, Parker needs to grow some balls and go for it! The last performance was awful and why he went with 3 defensive minded midfielders in the middle of the park is beyond me!
Come on Parker, stop fannying around, put Flemming in the 10, two wingers, Jay or Lyle up front, Cullen and Brownhill in midfield! Whilst you’re at it, try telling your midfield to attempt a pass forwards!!!

[Rick_Muller]

Ipswich were supposed to bid £25m for him in summer … id take half and reinvest in a proper striker.

Which League 1 striker is up to our needs then? Because with the financials you’re suggesting that’s what we could afford