Osmajic

[Bosscat]

What injury would prevent him from appealing?

He wasn't injured as he was playing ... Heckingbottom lying through his teeth AGAIN.

[TheFamilyCat]

He wasn't injured as he was playing ... Heckingbottom lying through his teeth AGAIN.

Yeah, I know that but an injury, genuine or not, doesn't seem to be a valid reason.

[Bosscat]

Yeah, I know that but an injury, genuine or not, doesn't seem to be a valid reason.

Wasn't having a go TFC I was agreeing with you... its Hecking@rsehole and Ridsdale taking the **** disgusting by PNE ...

[wilks_bfc]

“If” he’s injured then any ban should only come into effect once he’s deemed fit enough to play

[beddie]

If he played every game since Preston said he was injured etc then they (Preston) should be charged by the F.A.

[northeastclaret]

I think they said he needed to see a specialist about an ongoing injury problem , not that it was currently stopping him playing, but maybe less than thy would like. But the main reason , as mentioned, was to time any operation with his ban.

[Andreshotboots]

Scores again tonight and cupped his ears to the Cardiff fans as he did to us..

[ISpeds00]

At it yet again - the ******* idiot

[Goliath]

It's a disgrace that he's being allowed to carry on this nonsense for so long. I'd be slapping an extra few games on his inevitable ban for inciting crowds and a blatant lack of remorse.

[It Is What It Is]

It's just football politics...deny, deny, deny.

[Bordeauxclaret]

He might do us a favour on Saturday.

[agreenwood]

He might do us a favour on Saturday.

Wishful thinking. PNE have been awful for a few months and have nothing to play for.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Wishful thinking. PNE have been awful for a few months and have nothing to play for.

Definitely wishful thinking but then QPR, Swansea and Luton have also been pretty awful recently.

[Guller Bull]

Is there still no outcome from this? Surely by now they must have appeals etc?

[steve1264b]

This was always going to get kicked into the long grass of summer, as was Richarlison throwing a flare into the crowd at Goodson. Got a three game ban after the season had finished, waste of time.

Bet he gets a transfer abroad and that will be that.

[Kebsclaret]

There are some similarities in the Sam Felder case. The judgement has just been published https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/the ... -2025.ashx

This was decision was approximately 3 months after the offence.

[BurnleyMickSouth]

Very interesting read, so SF calls the other player " a faggot" in the heat of the moment, both players trading insults with each other during the match, but the word faggot is a homophobic word, the said player had been warned regarding a previous episode back in 2016 where he used the same word to describe another player, he was warned about his future conduct, he in a nutshel has now been banned for 13 or 16 football related matches, so no doubt Osmajics biting episode on the Rovers player was not that long ago, so i think if he gets a long ban say 20 matches,then the sanction should be world wide just in case he leaves PNE and goes abroad, this should be an intersting case, and one to keep an eye on.

[Guller Bull]

Has this been sorted yet?

[Woodleyclaret]

The FA pay lip service to stamping out racism.Their gutless approach to this incident is typical of their cba attitude.

[PremierLeagueClass]

The FA pay lip service to stamping out racism.Their gutless approach to this incident is typical of their cba attitude.

Didn’t you claim you weren’t going to post again?

[Woodleyclaret]

That was about that nice team Everton and their brilliant owners

[nil_desperandum]

The FA pay lip service to stamping out racism.Their gutless approach to this incident is typical of their cba attitude.

Aren't you pre-judging the outcome?
If found guilty then they can be judged on what punishment they apply.
The only thing that I will say is that if there is no case to answer then it should have been dropped long before now, in fairness to the player. So I fully expect there to be a strong case against him and that it will be resolved before the season begins.

[ClaretTony]

The FA pay lip service to stamping out racism.Their gutless approach to this incident is typical of their cba attitude.

The FA charged the player so how you think that is paying lip service is beyond me. They must have had enough to make that decision but I can imagine it will be a very long drawn out affair trying to gather enough evidence.

I’m pleased that there has been no verdict yet, that indicates the FA are taking it very seriously, the complete opposite of what you are suggesting although I still think it might be difficult to have enough evidence to find him guilty given they are very unlikely to find any independent witnesses.

[northeastclaret]

My sons follow England to almost every away game , the worst racism they have experienced was at Montenegro in 2019. The England players families including Danny Rose’s were surrounded by fans making monkey noises and gestures the whole game and nothing was done by the police or stewards.

Maybe Montenegro culturally has an issue with racism?

Hopefully the FA are taking circumstantial evidence like this into account when a convicted biter in the heat of the moment allegedly says something racist or not . Hence the length of the investigation.

[daveisaclaret]

Just looking at a few past cases - took them two months to deal with Bentancur, two months to deal with Suarez, and three months to deal with Rodriguez. Four months and counting since Osmajic did this it seems pretty fair to ask the question.

[Spike]

The FA charged the player so how you think that is paying lip service is beyond me. They must have had enough to make that decision but I can imagine it will be a very long drawn out affair trying to gather enough evidence.

I’m pleased that there has been no verdict yet, that indicates the FA are taking it very seriously, the complete opposite of what you are suggesting although I still think it might be difficult to have enough evidence to find him guilty given they are very unlikely to find any independent witnesses.

No other organisation in the UK would take so long to investigate a racism case . It needs resolving either way

[ClaretTony]

No other organisation in the UK would take so long to investigate a racism case . It needs resolving either way

In that case, if you want it rushed, then it has to be not guilty. They have charged him so they must think they can achieve something but these things take time. I’d much rather it take an age and potentially get it right rather than rush it and get it wrong. And no one on here knows what was or might have been said. How do you resolve it though if it’s one man’s word against another’s?

[bumba]

In that case, if you want it rushed, then it has to be not guilty. They have charged him so they must think they can achieve something but these things take time. I’d much rather it take an age and potentially get it right rather than rush it and get it wrong. And no one on here knows what was or might have been said. How do you resolve it though if it’s one man’s word against another’s?

I wouldn't even waste your energy CT, the same people wanting it rushed are the same people that would be in uproar if the roles were reversed and our player was being charged.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

There has to be a reasonable timeframe on it either way. Whether he’s guilty or not. If he’s guilty it needs sorting. If he’s not it needs sorting.
It’s the open ended timeline that’s the issue. It should have been determined that we will gather all evidence and resolve it within x days / weeks / months. Best for all parties.

[ClaretTony]

I wouldn't even waste your energy CT, the same people wanting it rushed are the same people that would be in uproar if the roles were reversed and our player was being charged.

Absolutely

[Papabendi]

I agree with the sentiment. However given there is seemingly one piece of footage that will have been looked at numerous times and possibly a handful of witnesses, it does seem rather curious in my mind.

[FCBurnley]

It is unfair on both clubs and both players to let this drag on indefinitely. At least put a time limit on it

[ClaretTony]

It is unfair on both clubs and both players to let this drag on indefinitely. At least put a time limit on it

Why on God’s earth do you put a time limit on it? We want it to be dealt with thoroughly and with hopefully the correct outcome however long that takes.

As I’ve said previously, it will be difficult given the probable lack of evidence.

[Papabendi]

Why on God’s earth do you put a time limit on it? We want it to be dealt with thoroughly and with hopefully the correct outcome however long that takes.

As I’ve said previously, it will be difficult given the probable lack of evidence.

You would want to put a time limit on it to give closure to both players and their clubs. And as you say, the lack of evidence makes this both difficult but also rather odd from a timing perspective, because there isn’t a great deal to review.

[ClaretTony]

You would want to put a time limit on it to give closure to both players and their clubs. And as you say, the lack of evidence makes this both difficult but also rather odd from a timing perspective, because there isn’t a great deal to review.

Very little - certainly from the tv pictures. And those in close proximity can hardly be considered independent unless the referee and/or the assistant saw or heard anything. It would have been very easy to give a not guilty verdict so at least it is being very seriously which you hope it would.

People on here will come up with lip service and the likes if Osmajic is not found guilty of racism, nothing could be more certain, but I’m more inclined to think they might come up with unproven.

[nil_desperandum]

It is unfair on both clubs and both players to let this drag on indefinitely. At least put a time limit on it

It doesn't affect us or Hannibal in the slightest does It?
PNE and Osmajic will be penalised if he is found guilty but we won't be entitled to anything.
There's no suggestion that Hannibal did anything wrong, so it's not the case that if the racist abuse by Osmajic is found to be "not proven", then there will be any repercussions for Hannibal.
Hannibal already knows what was said and he is now playing much better than he was before the incident and has the chance to play premier league shortly, so I don't think that the incident has had any adverse affect on his game. (I'm sure he would like to see Osmajic punished though)

[ClaretTony]

It doesn't affect us or Hannibal in the slightest does It?
PNE and Osmajic will be penalised if he is found guilty but we won't be entitled to anything.
There's no suggestion that Hannibal did anything wrong, so it's not the case that if the racist abuse by Osmajic is found to be "not proven", then there will be any repercussions for Hannibal.
Hannibal already knows what was said and he is now playing much better than he was before the incident and has the chance to play premier league shortly, so I don't think that the incident has had any adverse affect on his game. (I'm sure he would like to see Osmajic punished though)

100% - just seems that some don’t understand the situation.

[daveisaclaret]

It doesn't affect us or Hannibal in the slightest does It?

The jeopardy for Hannibal is finding out whether he is protected from racism in the workplace.

[JarrowClaret]

It doesn't affect us or Hannibal in the slightest does It?
PNE and Osmajic will be penalised if he is found guilty but we won't be entitled to anything.
There's no suggestion that Hannibal did anything wrong, so it's not the case that if the racist abuse by Osmajic is found to be "not proven", then there will be any repercussions for Hannibal.
Hannibal already knows what was said and he is now playing much better than he was before the incident and has the chance to play premier league shortly, so I don't think that the incident has had any adverse affect on his game. (I'm sure he would like to see Osmajic punished though)

Hannibal knows what he thought he heard not necessarily what was said, although they could turn out to be the same I guess.

[JarrowClaret]

The jeopardy for Hannibal is finding out whether he is protected from racism in the workplace.

The fact there is an investigation that has taken this long I would suggest is proof of his protection, the result of it is dependant on the evidence and what independent witnesses say. A not guilty or not proven verdict would not be an indication that he wasn’t being protected.

[wadeswondergoal]

That was about that nice team Everton and their brilliant owners

No, you asked the mods to permanently remove your account.

[Leisure]

In that case, if you want it rushed, then it has to be not guilty. They have charged him so they must think they can achieve something but these things take time. I’d much rather it take an age and potentially get it right rather than rush it and get it wrong. And no one on here knows what was or might have been said. How do you resolve it though if it’s one man’s word against another’s?

Agree, particularly with the final sentence, but not sure just how anything will be decided that they haven't been able to determine already, just by taking more time? I can't see how they can still be collecting evidence (which must be very limited).

[LincsWoldsClaret]

It will take a matter of minutes for a lip reader to establish what was said.

The issues remaining are legal ones - because of the delays, the player took part in games and his contribution may have affected results that could result in a team being relegated etc - and the FA could face charges - they need the time to cover their arse.

[daveisaclaret]

The fact there is an investigation that has taken this long I would suggest is proof of his protection, the result of it is dependant on the evidence and what independent witnesses say. A not guilty or not proven verdict would not be an indication that he wasn’t being protected.

Nope. If Osmajic can get away with racially abusing him, it is not protecting Hannibal for the FA to take a really long time to fail him. If Osmajic can racially abuse him on a football field he is not protected from racism at work, simple as.

[LDNBFC87]

Anti-depressant squad out in full force again, jay didn't do anything, and was found innocent. No comparison.

Anti-depressant squad? Are you 12? If not, give your head a wobble. I hope none of your friends are suffering from mental health issues - clearly you're not someone they would feel comfortable confiding in. ****.

[Roosterbooster]

Nope. If Osmajic can get away with racially abusing him, it is not protecting Hannibal for the FA to take a really long time to fail him. If Osmajic can racially abuse him on a football field he is not protected from racism at work, simple as.

What more are you asking the FA to do?

They are collecting the evidence. They have charged him. As much as it is necessary to protect people from racist abuse, it is also necessary to protect those who are incorrectly accused. I'd be very surprised if that was the case here, but it wouldn't be the first time.

Hannibal's right to protection is not more absolute than Osmajic's right to a fair hearing. Collect the evidence. Present the evidence. Judge the evidence. Nothing more, or less, should be expected

[JarrowClaret]

Nope. If Osmajic can get away with racially abusing him, it is not protecting Hannibal for the FA to take a really long time to fail him. If Osmajic can racially abuse him on a football field he is not protected from racism at work, simple as.

Not quite right get your point though, we don’t know what was said we only know what Hannibal thought he heard, doesn’t mean that Odmajic actually said a racial slur though. there has to be evidence for him to be proven guilty and we have a classic his word against mine issue here. There not being evidence doesn’t mean he isn’t protected it just means either Hannibal was mistaken or not enough independent people heard clearly what was said (or the lip reading wasn’t clear maybe)

[daveisaclaret]

What more are you asking the FA to do?

They are collecting the evidence. They have charged him. As much as it is necessary to protect people from racist abuse, it is also necessary to protect those who are incorrectly accused. I'd be very surprised if that was the case here, but it wouldn't be the first time.

Hannibal's right to protection is not more absolute than Osmajic's right to a fair hearing. Collect the evidence. Present the evidence. Judge the evidence. Nothing more, or less, should be expected

It's quite simple, I don't think it should take 4 months and counting to deal with a footballer who racially abuses another footballer and goes on to gloat about it.

It's a very generous reading to assume it is taking the FA a long time because they are doing a thorough job. There is no reason to think that.

[agreenwood]

Four months is ridiculous. Having coached in grassroots for a few years, I’ve been involved in two disciplinary hearings involving allegations of discrimination - one as a witness and one to accompany someone who was accused.

On both occasions the hearing took place within 8 weeks of the allegations and the decision communicated the same day.

I’m sure there are a lot of more voices to be heard in the professional game, but fundamentally it’s about collecting witness statements, gathering any video or audio evidence, holding a hearing and making a decision. It’s not a criminal trial. It shouldn’t take 4 months.

[ŽižkovClaret]

The time taken, given the lack of evidence, points increasingly to a "Not Proven" outcome, whcih doesn't really help anyone