Russia Invades

[bfcjg]

He's justifying the NK troops by saying they are only fighting inside, Russia also Ukraine has foreign mercenaries so he'll use that when.they are used in Ukraine. Not sure he'll stop with the Eastern provinces he wants the country. He might pause, rearm and start again. I think his assassination is the only thing that will stop the war, there are democrats and pacifists in Russia, I hope they just need a spark.

[HahaYeah]

I'm praying for Trump to get hold of power ASAP and put a stop to this madness.

[taio]

I'm praying for Trump to get hold of power ASAP and put a stop to this madness.

What are you hoping Trump will do?

[NewClaret]

He's justifying the NK troops by saying they are only fighting inside, Russia also Ukraine has foreign mercenaries so he'll use that when.they are used in Ukraine. Not sure he'll stop with the Eastern provinces he wants the country. He might pause, rearm and start again. I think his assassination is the only thing that will stop the war, there are democrats and pacifists in Russia, I hope they just need a spark.

He’ll definitely have to pause and rearm to take anything else. They’re using 1940’s gear at the moment. Ukraine have destroyed a lot which is why he needs other countries help.

I agree it requires Putin’s death. It amazes me all these other lives (on both sides) are being lost on the whim of one mad man. They should just see to it that he’s killed as they did with Sadam, Bin Laden and Isreal are doing to Hamas, etc now.

[fatboy47]

I'm praying for Trump to get hold of power ASAP and put a stop to this madness.

That self same bloke who reckoned drinking bleach would cure covid?

[HahaYeah]

That self same bloke who reckoned drinking bleach would cure covid?

No he didn't.

Keep reading the MSM and don't forget your boosters.

[HahaYeah]

What are you hoping Trump will do?

I don't really care what Trump does to put a stop to this aggression against Russia but it needs to be done.

I think we are closer to nuclear war than ever before in history.

The "Biden" regime are determined to provoke Russia to escalate before The Donald gets in.

If the Americans/ Blackrock etc and their lackeys don't back off then Russia will respond with these Oreshnik ICBM's, then we are in a potential nuclear situation, and for what? USAs hegemony over the World.

It's a long way til January 20th but it can't come soon enough.

[hoosier-daddy]

No he didn't.

Keep reading the MSM and don't forget your boosters.

He certainly suggested it could work, which is just as mad.

[HahaYeah]

He certainly suggested it could work, which is just as mad.

No he didn't.

[taio]

I don't really care what Trump does to put a stop to this aggression against Russia but it needs to be done.

I think we are closer to nuclear war than ever before in history.

The "Biden" regime are determined to provoke Russia to escalate before The Donald gets in.

If the Americans/ Blackrock etc and their lackeys don't back off then Russia will respond with these Oreshnik ICBM's, then we are in a potential nuclear situation, and for what? USAs hegemony over the World.

It's a long way til January 20th but it can't come soon enough.

The Biden administration is rightly responding proportionately to Putin's evil intentions and advances. I don't believe Biden's moderate actions cause a credible.risk of nuclear warfare - it just means that Putin's sabre-rattling over their nuclear threat will just intensify. I hope the madman Trump doesn't give too much away when he takes power.

[jtv]

........ this aggression against Russia ..........

Oh, so its Ukraine that has invaded Russia now to start the aggression!

[fatboy47]

No he didn't.

..note to self

I really must learn to stop playing chess with pigeons.

Bye.

[elwaclaret]

While I’ve not been posting on here regularly I have been keeping tabs on the goings on. The IBM Russia fired that Putin was so proud of, was one of only a few they had…. They fired two, but one blew up before taking off. The development of the system was cancelled several years ago as it was considered too unstable to be safely fired.

While things are grim, the Russian finances are struggling and the population is in for a rough 2025…. Lack of manpower means production is also being seriously effected across the board.

Quite a few of the commentators suspect Trump was involved in the decision to allow the firing of long range weapons and laying of land mines in Kirsk, and there is more to come.

It is still impossible to tell how this is going to end, and in whose favour despite the doom merchants, and the political leaders of the West still maintain that Russia cannot be allowed to leave the war thinking they’ve won… which would be the most dangerous end of all.

[Vino blanco]

Oreshniks? I seem to remember a chappy called Hitler telling his nation that he would use his new "wonder weapons" (Wunderwaffen) to defeat his enemies and bring a quick end to the war he was losing badly.... I think he spent all his time in his bunker too.

[taio]

While I’ve not been posting on here regularly I have been keeping tabs on the goings on. The IBM Russia fired that Putin was so proud of, was one of only a few they had…. They fired two, but one blew up before taking off. The development of the system was cancelled I several years ago as it was considered too unstable to be safely fired.

While things are grim, the Russian finances are struggling and the population is in for a rough 2025…. Lack of manpower means production is also being seriously effected across the board.

Quite a few of the commentators suspect Trump was involved in the decision to allow the firing of long range weapons and laying of land mines in Kirsk, and there is more to come.

It is still impossible to tell how this is going to end, and in whose favour despite the doom merchants, and the political leaders of the West still maintain that Russia cannot be allowed to leave the war thinking they’ve won… which would be the most dangerous end of all.

It seems there are broadly two options.

1) Trump maintains course in a similar to Biden and Europe intensifying support in response to Russian aggression, with the aim of the prospect of ongoing military action collapsing Russia's economy in the next 12-18 months.

2) Trump threatens Ukraine with US withdrawal of military and financial support unless they give up territory to Russia and remove any prospect of Ukraine joining NATO for many years. With Putin being able to claim victory.

[hoosier-daddy]

No he didn't.

Ohhhhhhh yes he did. Although he did back-track after realising how daft his suggestion to the scientists was.

[HahaYeah]

Oh, so its Ukraine that has invaded Russia now to start the aggression!

There was a USA coup against the democratically elected Ukraine Government in 2014.

Have you watched/listened to Tucker Carlsens interview with Putin?

He details the aggression and broken promises by the West against Russia in depth, then do your own fact checking from there.
Or just keep listening to the MSM about "Putin's evil intentions and advances".

[NewClaret]

While I’ve not been posting on here regularly I have been keeping tabs on the goings on. The IBM Russia fired that Putin was so proud of, was one of only a few they had…. They fired two, but one blew up before taking off. The development of the system was cancelled several years ago as it was considered too unstable to be safely fired.

They can’t even fire two IBMs into Ukraine and yet there’s hysteria in the media that they might fire ICBM nukes at us. It’s ludicrous and quite embarrassing.

I’m not even sure that the one they did manage to get to take off worked. From the images I saw, it looked like fragments falling to earth on what apparently was a residential area rather than any direct hit on a military target. And if the intention was to hit residential areas, it underlines further why we should be doing all we can to support Ukraine.

[elwaclaret]

It seems there are broadly two options.

1) Trump maintains course in a similar to Biden and Europe intensifying support in response to Russian aggression, with the aim of the prospect of ongoing military action collapsing Russia's economy in the next 12-18 months.

2) Trump threatens Ukraine with US withdrawal of military and financial support unless they give up territory to Russia and remove any prospect of Ukraine joining NATO for many years. With Putin being able to claim victory.

My personal view is Trump will try to push Russia back to the areas they more or less controlled before the war, and offer to fast track Ukraine into NATO to ensure their future protection. I don’t believe the US will abandon NATO, but he will keep pushing for increased spend by the allies… whose position has already altered a lot from last time he was in office in that regard.

It is hard not to be taken in by Trumps media persona, but a lot of my American friends think we in Europe get too sucked in to his ‘performances’… though ai must admit I’m no fan of his myself.

[jtv]

There was a USA coup against the democratically elected Ukraine Government in 2014.

"democratically elected" like the Russian government?

[NewClaret]

I don't really care what Trump does to put a stop to this aggression against Russia but it needs to be done.

I think we are closer to nuclear war than ever before in history.

The "Biden" regime are determined to provoke Russia to escalate before The Donald gets in.

If the Americans/ Blackrock etc and their lackeys don't back off then Russia will respond with these Oreshnik ICBM's, then we are in a potential nuclear situation, and for what? USAs hegemony over the World.

It's a long way til January 20th but it can't come soon enough.

They can’t even fire two IBMs, what on earth makes you think they could launch ICBMs??

[taio]

Ohhhhhhh yes he did. Although he did back-track after realising how daft his suggestion to the scientists was.

He didn't suggest people should drink bleach

[HahaYeah]

They can’t even fire two IBMs, what on earth makes you think they could launch ICBMs??

How do you know" they can't even fire two"?

Do you get your information from the same news outlets who were saying Putin is dying, his troops are fighting with shovels?

I believe the strikes were a warning shot across the bows.

[HahaYeah]

"democratically elected" like the Russian government?

Like the stolen election by the Biden regime in 2016?

Millions of postal votes turning up at the last minute?

[Anonymous Claret]

Ukrainian Intelligence:

- Putin furious. Believed the operation would be concluded in 1-4 days.
- war costing Russia 20 billion dollars per day
- only enough rockets for 3-4 more days
- cannot replace munitions quickly enough and may take 3-4 months to replenish stockpiles
- sanctions are cutting off the raw materials needed for rearming, specifically from Germany, Slovenia and Finland.
- Ukraine believe if they can hold on for 10 days, may force Russia to table as they are quickly running out of money.
- Russian SF have been in Kiev since Feb 18.
- Russia plan to start terrorising local population and are preparing provocations to instil panic. This is their trump card.
- hope that Kharkiv will soon fall and begin a domino effect.

Don't worry everyone, Russia is running out of money, only has enough rockets for 3 or 4 more days and the war will be over in no time at all.

This was posted nearly 3 years ago in February 2022. People have continued to believe the lies that have been fed to them by their governments and the media. It makes no difference whether the lies are told by the Western media to us or whether they are told by the Russian media to their citizens.

The end result is that thousands of Russians and Ukrainians are needlessly dying.

[Stonehouse]

All those sanctions that Europe put on Russia so that their economy would collapse doesn’t seem to have made a lot of difference seeing as many countries and companies have carried on trading with them.

[taio]

All those sanctions that Europe put on Russia so that their economy would collapse doesn’t seem to have made a lot of difference seeing as many countries and companies have carried on trading with them.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/ ... ter-a86958

[jtv]

Like the stolen election by the Biden regime in 2016?

Millions of postal votes turning up at the last minute?

Your user name says it all!

[HahaYeah]

Your user name says it all!

Good one.

[HahaYeah]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/ ... ter-a86958

The Moscow Times - sounds legit, is that a Russian newspaper?

[taio]

The Moscow Times - sounds legit, is that a Russian newspaper?

There's plenty of articles about the drain the war is having on their economy. If you want to search elsewhere, go for it.

[Shaggy]

The people on here that lap up the western propaganda is frightening.

Ukraine is finished whatever happens. A deal is the best solution all round. Same with the other war criminals in the Middle East Israel

[Goalposts]

I don't really care what Trump does to put a stop to this aggression against Russia but it needs to be done.

I think we are closer to nuclear war than ever before in history.

The "Biden" regime are determined to provoke Russia to escalate before The Donald gets in.

If the Americans/ Blackrock etc and their lackeys don't back off then Russia will respond with these Oreshnik ICBM's, then we are in a potential nuclear situation, and for what? USAs hegemony over the World.

It's a long way til January 20th but it can't come soon enough.

It’s true stupid people are always blissfully unaware of just how stupid they are..

[SalouClaret]

Like the stolen election by the Biden regime in 2016?

Millions of postal votes turning up at the last minute?

How many tin foil hats do you own?

You tell people not to get their info from the "MSM", whilst getting your info from badly made YouTube videos with their "100% legit sources"



I'm not defending Biden or the Democrats either. They're truly awful.

[gandhisflipflop]

The people on here that lap up the western propaganda is frightening.

Ukraine is finished whatever happens. A deal is the best solution all round. Same with the other war criminals in the Middle East Israel

That’s why I stayed off this thread early doors. Haha yeah has some truth to what he is saying but as usual the know it alls pounce.

They’ll still be queuing for their boosters.

[SalouClaret]

Ah yes, the boosters that kill every person who is stupid enough to have one. Millions of bodies pile in the streets because of the damn boosters. *shakes stick angrily*

[CoolClaret]

Like the stolen election by the Biden regime in 2016?

Millions of postal votes turning up at the last minute?

That was laughed out of every court in the land, with Giuliani losing a ginormous lawsuit trying to pursue bogus claims to rig an election.

Maybe stop getting your 'news' from grifters on social media.

[HahaYeah]

That was laughed out of every court in the land, with Giuliani losing a ginormous lawsuit trying to pursue bogus claims to rig an election.

Maybe stop getting your 'news' from grifters on social media.

Corrupt courts,corrupt MSM media.

[daveisaclaret]

There is absolutely nothing to gain arguing with Trump Russia trolls.

[CoolClaret]

Corrupt courts,corrupt MSM media.

But your kremlin propaganda is all legit, right?

Frightening what some will believe...

[JarrowClaret]

The people on here that lap up the western propaganda is frightening.

Ukraine is finished whatever happens. A deal is the best solution all round. Same with the other war criminals in the Middle East Israel

The madness of criticising people for lapping up western propaganda whilst you yourself are lapping up Russian propaganda. That isn’t a criticism of what you believe that is purely up to you and you are entitled to hold that opinion, it is a criticism of the hypocrisy you and others show. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

If we want facts this war is only a thing as Russia invaded Ukraine. Similarly NATOs so called expansion east is only a thing as Russia has a very bad habit of invading and annexing its neighbours and Countries want to be protected. They are plain facts clearly there are things that happen in the background that lead to these things happening.The west have got involved as they know the Russians would not stop after annexing Ukraine.

I don’t want to drag this thread down but I have to say mentioning Israel as War Criminals shows an absolute lack of knowledge of what is actually going on in the ground. I am not a supporter of Israel or it’s tactics but I know for a fact that the only reason there are as many Civilian deaths as there are is that Hamas/Hezbolla deliberately choose to operate around civilian areas.

[daveisaclaret]

I don’t want to drag this thread down but I have to say mentioning Israel as War Criminals shows an absolute lack of knowledge of what is actually going on in the ground. I am not a supporter of Israel or it’s tactics but I know for a fact that the only reason there are as many Civilian deaths as there are is that Hamas/Hezbolla deliberately choose to operate around civilian areas.

Given the ICC has issued arrest warrants for war crimes I would suggest it would take a lack of knowledge to not mention Israel as war criminals

[gandhisflipflop]

Ah yes, the boosters that kill every person who is stupid enough to have one. Millions of bodies pile in the streets because of the damn boosters. *shakes stick angrily*

Literally nobody has said that.

[CoolClaret]

The madness of criticising people for lapping up western propaganda whilst you yourself are lapping up Russian propaganda. That isn’t a criticism of what you believe that is purely up to you and you are entitled to hold that opinion, it is a criticism of the hypocrisy you and others show. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

If we want facts this war is only a thing as Russia invaded Ukraine. Similarly NATOs so called expansion east is only a thing as Russia has a very bad habit of invading and annexing its neighbours and Countries want to be protected. They are plain facts clearly there are things that happen in the background that lead to these things happening.The west have got involved as they know the Russians would not stop after annexing Ukraine.

I don’t want to drag this thread down but I have to say mentioning Israel as War Criminals shows an absolute lack of knowledge of what is actually going on in the ground. I am not a supporter of Israel or it’s tactics but I know for a fact that the only reason there are as many Civilian deaths as there are is that Hamas/Hezbolla deliberately choose to operate around civilian areas.

The thing is, to join NATO, countries must first apply, meet the strict criteria and then face a veto vote from all existing members.

NATO doesn't 'expand', it's up to countries to decide if they want to join, i.e. it's voluntary.

Not to mention, we actually asked Ukraine to disarm in the '90s through the Budapest Memorandum to prevent nuclear proliferation after USSR's collapse. In exchange, they received security guarantees (though not a member of NATO).

All the obfuscation and disinformation around NATO/Ukraine comes purely from RuZZia and unfortunately a number of useful idiots lap it up.

[Shaggy]

The madness of criticising people for lapping up western propaganda whilst you yourself are lapping up Russian propaganda. That isn’t a criticism of what you believe that is purely up to you and you are entitled to hold that opinion, it is a criticism of the hypocrisy you and others show. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

If we want facts this war is only a thing as Russia invaded Ukraine. Similarly NATOs so called expansion east is only a thing as Russia has a very bad habit of invading and annexing its neighbours and Countries want to be protected. They are plain facts clearly there are things that happen in the background that lead to these things happening.The west have got involved as they know the Russians would not stop after annexing Ukraine.

I don’t want to drag this thread down but I have to say mentioning Israel as War Criminals shows an absolute lack of knowledge of what is actually going on in the ground. I am not a supporter of Israel or it’s tactics but I know for a fact that the only reason there are as many Civilian deaths as there are is that Hamas/Hezbolla deliberately choose to operate around civilian areas.

Your first mistake is assuming I have lapped up Russian propaganda. I have literally only criticised people who believe without fault the American/wests propaganda.

I bet you think this situation only started a couple of years ago didn’t you? America particularly has been agitating and forcing its favourite MO regime change to keep its hand of influence over certain regions.

Israel and particularly the Zionists have been a terrorist state almost since it was created. Never stopped trying to expand and wipe out the Palestineans. Bombing women and children isn’t a war crime?

If it wasn’t for the support from the US and west then both Ukraine and Isreal would have been sunk by now, Israel can’t even invade southern Lebanon effectively hence they resort to air strikes on civilians.

Biden is also trying to create as much of a mess in Ukraine as possible for Trump to clear up. Another evil old man.

[Vegas Claret]

any danger we can get off the Trump talk and conspiracy nonsense, this thread is important and has been a good reporting tool and place to keep up with things - there are a million other places to talk about him.

[KRBFC]

Your first mistake is assuming I have lapped up Russian propaganda. I have literally only criticised people who believe without fault the American/wests propaganda.

I bet you think this situation only started a couple of years ago didn’t you? America particularly has been agitating and forcing its favourite MO regime change to keep its hand of influence over certain regions.

Israel and particularly the Zionists have been a terrorist state almost since it was created. Never stopped trying to expand and wipe out the Palestineans. Bombing women and children isn’t a war crime?

If it wasn’t for the support from the US and west then both Ukraine and Isreal would have been sunk by now, Israel can’t even invade southern Lebanon effectively hence they resort to air strikes on civilians.

Biden is also trying to create as much of a mess in Ukraine as possible for Trump to clear up. Another evil old man.

You set a dangerous precedent if you really believe smaller sovereign nations should just roll over and accept defeat the moment a bigger nation sends troops across the border.

[bfcjg]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-lost- ... 50671.html
Some military strategists have commented that Ukraine invading that part of Russia was always a mistake and tied up some of their better divisions.
Also the article continues with the murky dealings between 2 dictators and basically swopping young men to die for oil.

[CoolClaret]

Don't worry everyone, Russia is running out of money, only has enough rockets for 3 or 4 more days and the war will be over in no time at all.

This was posted nearly 3 years ago in February 2022. People have continued to believe the lies that have been fed to them by their governments and the media. It makes no difference whether the lies are told by the Western media to us or whether they are told by the Russian media to their citizens.

The end result is that thousands of Russians and Ukrainians are needlessly dying.

Almost like the cost of the initial invasion would have been significantly higher than what it is now, seen as it was a full onslaught attempting to topple the Ukrainian gov.

Now it's a slow burner.

The only reason that RuZZians and Ukrainians are needlessly dying is that dictator Putin is playing empire. It really is that simple.

[Burnley1989]

Your first mistake is assuming I have lapped up Russian propaganda. I have literally only criticised people who believe without fault the American/wests propaganda.

I bet you think this situation only started a couple of years ago didn’t you? America particularly has been agitating and forcing its favourite MO regime change to keep its hand of influence over certain regions.

Israel and particularly the Zionists have been a terrorist state almost since it was created. Never stopped trying to expand and wipe out the Palestineans. Bombing women and children isn’t a war crime?

If it wasn’t for the support from the US and west then both Ukraine and Isreal would have been sunk by now, Israel can’t even invade southern Lebanon effectively hence they resort to air strikes on civilians.

Biden is also trying to create as much of a mess in Ukraine as possible for Trump to clear up. Another evil old man.

Sad to hear this opinion, which you're fully entitled to have BTW.