Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[jedi_master]

Cullen contract extension on the cards

Yes please.

Very pleasing how we are nailing our talent down this summer. You'd think Brownhill must be one we're trying to get an extension on too as he only has a year option after this season. Whilst Brownhill might not be a first pick anymore after our business is concluded, he's not someone we'd want to see leave us for free.

[Woonderbah]

100 million euros is a lot for someone of Kane's age.

And Bayern will still make a profit selling him to the Saudis in four years' time

[Anthonini]

Exactly, this makes him be ahead of Benson actually because he's not been called up yet. Although I do think that the manager made a stupid decision there. Definitely big competition for Benson though after the season he had and the goals he made, being at Burnley where Manuel is an established player. I'd assume Benson would get the start over him, but than can change quickly.

I definitely see Lukebakio as a future starter for Burnley.

[FeedTheArf]

Yes please.

Very pleasing how we are nailing our talent down this summer. You'd think Brownhill must be one we're trying to get an extension on too as he only has a year option after this season. Whilst Brownhill might not be a first pick anymore after our business is concluded, he's not someone we'd want to see leave us for free.

The same report on the athletic that said Cullen talks were underway also said Brownhill was high on the priority list

[Colburn_Claret]

Buy low sell high. Improve. Buy a little higher, sell a little higher. Improve.

Exactly what we should be doing.

It is, but if it was that simple, everybody would be doing it.

Brighton have it right, atm.
Brentford have in the past.
It's keeping the continuity, and using the right resources to identify talent.

The 2 possible pitfalls is mistakenly throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and not having a ready replacement for any outgoings.

Exciting times.

[Quicknick]

And Bayern will still make a profit selling him to the Saudis in four years' time

I hadn't thought of that.

[Quicknick]

I've known him since he was a young 17 year old prospect at Neerpede Youth Academy. Always been a great fan of him.

He's always had this joy of dribbling and taking defenders on in 1 on 1 situations. Very very comfortable on the ball almost like a street soccer kind in player. Can do anything on the ball. He's pretty fast too. Always been a bit skinny and lacks a bit gunpowder in his legs. He's not a real threat from a distance like Benson or Zaroury are, but even more dangerous in the box, scoring often, his finishing is good. Not really good in the air. Although he's progressed alot in his end product and physical ability over the last years. Lately he's even been starting for the Belgian national team and performing quite well above expectations.

A real artist than can still improve enormously under VK. He can play on both wings, lately more so on the right, and can play perfectly as a striker too. Can play in short spaces as well as send him deep on counter attacks.

Great player to watch, quick with lots of crazy tricks up his sleeve.

You've convinced me!

[IWOODLOVETT]

Very, very impressive - the amount of work that has gone on behind the scenes this summer has been colossal and is still continuing. The finalised deals, the contract extensions, the “in principle “ deals and the aborted negotiations have formed a mountainous workload for the recruitment team plus a huge input from the manager.
Exciting times.

[Big Vinny K]

Brighton done brilliantly in last couple of years. It definitely helps knowing that if your transfers go wrong though that it doesn’t really matter when you are being bank rolled to the tune of more than half a billion.
Let’s not forget that before the last couple of years they were still being subsidised by £50m losses every year and they were always pretty much near us in a relegation battle (except when we finished in the top 10 twice !)

Some clubs just have spells when their player selection works brilliantly like this - hopefully we are the next one.

[Rileybobs]

If making big bucks from player trading was so easy then everyone would be doing it. Vinny was correct in the doc that the two big sources of potential income for a club like ours are the PL tv revenue and player sales. But one needs to be balanced with the other and to profit greatly from player sales we need to take gambles on players who are yet to fulfil their potential, and maybe won’t, and that increases the threat of relegation and losing out on the tv revenue.

It’s also fair to point out that it is easier to buy players for £2-3m who are too good for the championship and are likely to yield a greater return on investment than buying players for £10-£15m who will have to make the step up into the PL playing for a relegation contender (as things stand).

Also, a word of warning for those who say we now have players with a huge sell on value - that’s not true - we have players with a large sell on potential. As things stand our players are currently worth what we bought them for more or less, and will need to have good seasons to increase their value. It’s a tough juggling act for Vinny as we have a large squad supposedly about to get even larger, so giving all of these players game time whilst achieving our primary goal of staying in the PL will be a tough job. One I’m sure he’s capable of carrying out though.

[quoonbeatz]

Levy is the goat of elite transfer shithousery.

[jedi_master]

Levy is the goat of elite transfer shithousery.

Unbelievable.

Apparently Kane has now driven back from Stansted and is playing in his garden with his daughter.

[Rileybobs]

Unbelievable.

Apparently Kane has now driven back from Stansted and is playing in his garden with his daughter.

My vision is him frustratingly practicing penalties with her in the sticks.

[Firthy]

So we are expecting to complete the signings of Lukebakio, Ramsey and Odobert. Possibly Lokonga on loan and we still need a LB. Doubt we'll will bring another striker, I think VK is expecting goals from many different players.

Definitely a rollercoaster ride this transfer window and looking promising if these young players can show their potential.

[summitclaret]

Having heard VKs press conference today talking about Berge, I’m really excited about this signing. Saying he’s good value as he is and will be a good player for us, but if he releases his potential he could be unbelievable.

Just seen this yt comp and he looks like he has all the attributes to be a classy all round midfielder.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q6TcJ_tR6YY

Unless I missed something, there was 1 goal and no assists in that long compilation. Poor for a mainly attacking midfielder. Looks a good footballer though.

Highlights of Brownhill last season would have shown much more outcomes. Hamer created more last Saturday.

[jojomk1]

If Maatsen gets a new contract at Chelsea would then expect to see him back with us on loan
Get a move on Poch !!

[Goalposts]

If Maatsen gets a new contract at Chelsea would then expect to see him back with us on loan
Get a move on Poch !!

Maatsen has been named in the Chelsea 25 squad no 29 shirt, he is staying at Chelsea now

[Commy]

I don't think Berge has been happy at Sheffield Utd since they knocked back offers for him when they were relegated. He has been going through the motions. Their fans say he was their best player in the pre season games, maybe because he knew there was a chance he would be moving on.

[claretonthecoast1882]

My vision is him frustratingly practicing penalties with her in the sticks.

Bayern have now pulled out the deal after she saved his first 2

[ervi34]

Hamer to SUFC for 15 million. Big signing for them, I'm gutted we didn't try harder.

[Firthy]

Hamer to SUFC for 15 million. Big signing for them, I'm gutted we didn't try harder.

I prefer Berge of the two. I think he is a brilliant signing. The one thing we lack is PL experience and that's one thing he can bring thar Hamer can't.

[RVclaret]

Hamer to SUFC for 15 million. Big signing for them, I'm gutted we didn't try harder.

Much needed signing for them. Surely we could have signed him if we wanted but opted for Berge instead?

[northeastclaret]

Maatsen has been named in the Chelsea 25 squad no 29 shirt, he is staying at Chelsea now

So have Bastian,Churlinov etc etc

[northeastclaret]

So have Bastian,Churlinov etc etc. Means nothing at this stage on whether a player is staying or going , you don’t exclude them from a number if you might sell them.

[Firthy]

So have Bastian,Churlinov etc etc

Bastian and Churlinov have been named in the Chelsea squad

[Spijed]

Brighton done brilliantly in last couple of years. It definitely helps knowing that if your transfers go wrong though that it doesn’t really matter when you are being bank rolled to the tune of more than half a billion.
Let’s not forget that before the last couple of years they were still being subsidised by £50m losses every year and they were always pretty much near us in a relegation battle (except when we finished in the top 10 twice !)

Some clubs just have spells when their player selection works brilliantly like this - hopefully we are the next one.

And plenty of posters on here completely ignore the fact that it matters not if a £20 million signing fails at Brighton. Tony Bloom ensures that his money just covers any mistakes with ease.

[arise_sir_charge]

I think Berge fits what we need more.

I’ve said that I don’t think Cullen is in anyway light weight but he is small. Had we signed Hamer that would have been a midfield that Ken Dodd would have been proud of.

[jedi_master]

I think Berge fits what we need more.

I’ve said that I don’t think Cullen is in anyway light weight but he is small. Had we signed Hamer that would have been a midfield that Ken Dodd would have been proud of.

Agreed with this and said similar recently. Hamer is a really lovely little footballer but his size is a problem I think when we already have a relatively tiny midfield.

[northeastclaret]

I think Berge fits what we need more.

I’ve said that I don’t think Cullen is in anyway light weight but he is small. Had we signed Hamer that would have been a midfield that Ken Dodd would have been proud of.

[CryerBFC]

Absolutely over the moon the way our club has been transformed over the last 18 months. Give me a transfer window like this over the £1m signing of Dale Stephens any day of the week.

Having watched the full mission to Burnley series, I am confident Pace and his merry men have everything under control, yes we’ve spent a lot, by our standards, but it’s not a lot when you compare the money thrown around in the Prem.

Been mentioned a lot but should disaster strike and we’re relegated, we easily recoup all if not more than the total cost on just a few of our top performers.

Exciting times, roll on tonight and an exciting end to the transfer window!

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[Big Vinny K]

And plenty of posters on here completely ignore the fact that it matters not if a £20 million signing fails at Brighton. Tony Bloom ensures that his money just covers any mistakes with ease.

Lalana signed a £90k a week three or four year contract - how many games has he played ? Zero sell on value. £15m plus wasted.

Jakub Moder - £11m.

Jahanbakhsh - £20m - didn’t start many games.

Locadia - £17m - who ?!!!

Izquierdo - £15m

Propper - £13m

And plenty of £5m to £10m signings that nobody has heard of in last 5 years too.

[FCBurnley]

Now don’t get me wrong I AM enjoying every single second of our summer signings BUT can we really afford it or are we betting the ranch ?
let’s see where we are after say 10 games. As VK said it will take time and we will get better as the season progresses and I believe him 100%

[Newcastleclaret93]

Much needed signing for them. Surely we could have signed him if we wanted but opted for Berge instead?

Surprised we haven’t gone for him

[Tricky Trevor]

. I'd assume Benson would get the start over him, but than can change quickly.

Problem being we don’t know how close to playing Manny is and he’s had no pre-season so I wouldn’t be rushing him back.

[123EasyasBFC]

Exactly, this makes him be ahead of Benson actually because he's not been called up yet. Although I do think that the manager made a stupid decision there. Definitely big competition for Benson though after the season he had and the goals he made, being at Burnley where Manuel is an established player. I'd assume Benson would get the start over him, but than can change quickly.

I definitely see Lukebakio as a future starter for Burnley.

Could lukebakio play more as a 9

[Rileybobs]

I had TalkSport on briefly earlier for my sins, and Andros Townsend was in the studio with Jim White and Simon Jordan. He shed some light on his situation with Burnley. To summarise;

He was invited by VK to train and get fit.

VK liked what he saw and asked him to go on tour to Portugal to see how he performed against strong opposition.

VK saw that he still had something to give and offered him a 1 year deal.

Townsend was ready to sign the deal and was having a shower before making his way to the CEO’s office to finalise the offer.

A coach walked into the showers and told Townsend that the deal was off and that VK wanted to chat with him in his office.

VK told Townsend that unfortunately we wouldn’t be finalising the deal as deals for other targets had materialised and players had recovered/were recovering from injuries earlier than expected.

Townsend didn’t agree with the rationale or the way that the events had unfolded but shook hands and parted ways amicably.

Jim White was keen to stick the boot in and suggested it was poor form by Burnley but Townsend didn’t seem to hold any real grudge, although seemed a bit peeved that this left him with only a short amount of time to find a PL suitor.

[gandhisflipflop]

What I really like about pace is he is humble enough to understand that people like VK are the experts when it comes to football and he is placing his trust in the right areas. Too many owners are guilty of coming in, and either being arrogant enough to think they know what they’re doing as they have loads of money (yes Chelsea owner I’m looking at you) or they are naive enough to think that everyone involved in football knows what they are talking about and get bad advice - venkys.

Pace is letting VK run the football side of things, and pace and co are doing what they know - finance. It’s a match made in heaven, and long may it continue.

[gandhisflipflop]

I had TalkSport on briefly earlier for my sins, and Andros Townsend was in the studio with Jim White and Simon Jordan. He shed some light on his situation with Burnley. To summarise;

He was invited by VK to train and get fit.

VK liked what he saw and asked him to go on tour to Portugal to see how he performed against strong opposition.

VK saw that he still had something to give and offered him a 1 year deal.

Townsend was ready to sign the deal and was having a shower before making his way to the CEO’s office to finalise the offer.

A coach walked into the showers and told Townsend that the deal was off and that VK wanted to chat with him in his office.

VK told Townsend that unfortunately we wouldn’t be finalising the deal as deals for other targets had materialised and players had recovered/were recovering from injuries earlier than expected.

Townsend didn’t agree with the rationale or the way that the events had unfolded but shook hands and parted ways amicably.

Jim White was keen to stick the boot in and suggested it was poor form by Burnley but Townsend didn’t seem to hold any real grudge, although seemed a bit peeved that this left him with only a short amount of time to find a PL suitor.

It’s football. VK is Ruthless

[jedi_master]

I can understand the frustration from Townsend at that but the club have clearly made the decision which is correct for us, as opposed to signing a player on a large salary that we didn't require. At the end of the day, it sounds like he was initially brought in to get fit and have a good pre-season to put him in the shop window - we did that.

[claretandy]

Sheff utd in for archer at villa as well, a few decent signings if they get him and hamer.

[Jakubs Tash]

Exactly, this makes him be ahead of Benson actually because he's not been called up yet. Although I do think that the manager made a stupid decision there. Definitely big competition for Benson though after the season he had and the goals he made, being at Burnley where Manuel is an established player. I'd assume Benson would get the start over him, but than can change quickly.

I definitely see Lukebakio as a future starter for Burnley.

We all know that Benson can’t play or be effective for 90 mins. You either get 60 mins out of him or he is an impact sub to come on for the last 30 mins or so. Therefore, it’s imperative that we get someone who can play on the same side as Benson so that we always have the same level of threat no matter who is in the pitch.

[TheFamilyCat]

I had TalkSport on briefly earlier for my sins, and Andros Townsend was in the studio with Jim White and Simon Jordan. He shed some light on his situation with Burnley. To summarise;

He was invited by VK to train and get fit.

VK liked what he saw and asked him to go on tour to Portugal to see how he performed against strong opposition.

VK saw that he still had something to give and offered him a 1 year deal.

Townsend was ready to sign the deal and was having a shower before making his way to the CEO’s office to finalise the offer.

A coach walked into the showers and told Townsend that the deal was off and that VK wanted to chat with him in his office.

VK told Townsend that unfortunately we wouldn’t be finalising the deal as deals for other targets had materialised and players had recovered/were recovering from injuries earlier than expected.

Townsend didn’t agree with the rationale or the way that the events had unfolded but shook hands and parted ways amicably.

Jim White was keen to stick the boot in and suggested it was poor form by Burnley but Townsend didn’t seem to hold any real grudge, although seemed a bit peeved that this left him with only a short amount of time to find a PL suitor.

I can understand how it's probably left Townsend a bit frustrated, but he's had more out of us than vice versa so and it sounds like he accepts that.

[quoonbeatz]

Jim White is a ****.

[CoolClaret]

Been mentioned a lot but should disaster strike and we’re relegated, we easily recoup all if not more than the total cost on just a few of our top performers.

This isn’t a given at all.

[CoolClaret]

If making big bucks from player trading was so easy then everyone would be doing it. Vinny was correct in the doc that the two big sources of potential income for a club like ours are the PL tv revenue and player sales. But one needs to be balanced with the other and to profit greatly from player sales we need to take gambles on players who are yet to fulfil their potential, and maybe won’t, and that increases the threat of relegation and losing out on the tv revenue.

It’s also fair to point out that it is easier to buy players for £2-3m who are too good for the championship and are likely to yield a greater return on investment than buying players for £10-£15m who will have to make the step up into the PL playing for a relegation contender (as things stand).

Also, a word of warning for those who say we now have players with a huge sell on value - that’s not true - we have players with a large sell on potential. As things stand our players are currently worth what we bought them for more or less, and will need to have good seasons to increase their value. It’s a tough juggling act for Vinny as we have a large squad supposedly about to get even larger, so giving all of these players game time whilst achieving our primary goal of staying in the PL will be a tough job. One I’m sure he’s capable of carrying out though.

Bob on.

I wish all fans could try and remain objective about our situation at all times rather than just being doomsday during a rough patch or believe we’re infallible when things are going good.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Now we have Berge, who is better than Hamer, I’m happy. We could still do with an additional midfielder and I’m hoping we hold out for Lokonga.

Archer would’ve been snapped up by another PL club if he was PL ready.

Overall, I think we are considerably stronger than Sheff Utd and with Lokonga, Lukebakio and potentially Tella and Maatsen - nobody can be unhappy with our transfer business thus far.

[Casper2]

Jim White is a ****.

So you would be ok if somebody went back on a verbal agreement with you ?
It’s very poor from the club .

[fatboy47]

BUT can we really afford it or are we betting the ranch ?

We're spending the PL money, (that was hitherto ending up in Garlick's back sack) on what it's basically intended for.

[northeastclaret]

So you would be ok if somebody went back on a verbal agreement with you ?
It’s very poor from the club .

So you are believing Townsends version of what precisely happened to VKs then , I would prefer to believe our manager.

[scouseclaret]

Unless I missed something, there was 1 goal and no assists in that long compilation. Poor for a mainly attacking midfielder.

Tbf I posted exactly the same comment about a Benson compilation this time last year. Turned out alright…