Are we safe

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:17 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Boro are far worse. They're nailed on too.

Hull, Palace, Swansea and Leicester have all showed signs of resurgence but even so they all have ground to make up and have yet to show they will consistently pick up points.

Spijed's post is v interesting because it shows that we've extended our lead away from the bottom over the last 10 games, depsite the aboves' improvement in form and despite us playing only 4 games at home in the league and also playing pretty much all the top 4

And that table was straight after Big Sam's first game in charge of Palace (1-1 draw with Watford). They were four points behind, now six - with a game in hand.

It's not easy for teams to close the gap at the bottom in the PL.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:59 pm

Yet?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:00 pm

Well, we are 8 clear with 9 to play and Hull won't makeup the GD

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:00 pm

Can't see us getting more than 5 pts the way things are going. Doubt hull will catch us now though

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:01 pm

Perfectly.

That was two huge points dropped by Sunderland.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:04 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Yet?

Nope. Not imo. But even though it was away to Sunderland, it's still a point gained and put us nearer to survival. A win I think would have put us pretty much there, but still work to do.

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:04 pm

A point at Boro and that may be the lot.

Now the home games.....we'll be ok.

The current bottom 3 look Championship, don't sweat it.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:12 pm

Am I safe to renew my ST from Premier League football then Frank?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:13 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Am I safe to renew my ST from Premier League football then Frank?

Not yet.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:15 pm

I reckon the club shop should sell claret & blue Grim Reaper costumes.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:17 pm

West Brom 1 Stoke 3 West Ham 3 ...39 points I think I will renew on Monday

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:19 pm

relegation odds

Sunderland 1/10
Middlesbrough 4/11
Hull 8/13
Crystal Palace 2/1
Swansea 7/2
Leicester 7/1
Bournemouth 12/1
Burnley 12/1
Watford 16/1
West Ham 80/1

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:23 pm

Strange odds are those. Leicester certainly look like they'll finish above us, so too Swansea.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:26 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Am I safe to renew my ST from Premier League football then Frank?

I have heard from the club that next year we'll be able to buy half tickets for home matches only so we don't have to waste time and money travelling to the away games.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:28 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:I have heard from the club that next year we'll be able to buy half tickets for home matches only so we don't have to waste time and money travelling to the away games.

eh?

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:29 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:I have heard from the club that next year we'll be able to buy half tickets for home matches only so we don't have to waste time and money travelling to the away games.

Season tickets don't include away games....

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:30 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Strange odds are those. Leicester certainly look like they'll finish above us, so too Swansea.

If Swansea lose today it could put them back in the mire.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:31 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Strange odds are those. Leicester certainly look like they'll finish above us, so too Swansea.

If Swansea lose today it could put them back in the mire.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:34 pm

If Swansea lose today it could put them back in the mire.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:35 pm

Yep,that was it for me.Burnley are back where we belong!

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:44 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Strange odds are those. Leicester certainly look like they'll finish above us, so too Swansea.

At a guess there are live odds which will flunctuate week to week game to game, as it stands Leicester & Swansea odds will swing as will ours dependant on a myriad of factors. At the moment the odds quoted are roughly how things are looking now.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:38 pm

Perfectly. No sweat.

Stop worrying.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:42 pm

1 more and yes.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:43 pm

Yes. Amazing achievement...far greater than getting promoted.

ian · Post by **ian** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:44 pm

Are we safe?
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ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:45 pm

im gonna say that win has pretty much seen us safe.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:47 pm

We're not safe until we're safe. Some fans have been saying we're safe for ages but we were all a little nervous today. I can't see us not gaining a few more points before the end of the season so we should be. Cautiously optimistic

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:48 pm

Feeling much better now, but the jobs not done yet! Let's do Boro!!!

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:48 pm

IndigoLake wrote:We're not safe until we're safe. Some fans have been saying we're safe for ages but we were all a little nervous today. I can't see us not gaining a few more points before the end of the season so we should be. Cautiously optimistic

If we were fans of any other team in the division, we would be looking at us right now and saying they are safe without a doubt.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:51 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:If we were fans of any other team in the division, we would be looking at us right now and saying they are safe without a doubt.

Agreed! Just don't want us to get ahead of ourselves.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:52 pm

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Case in point

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:52 pm

Safe? I'm working out if Europe's possible.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:54 pm

Wouldn't it be fantastic to get our first away win of the season against Boro, and make their demise ever more likely. Last seasons bad grace might just come back to bite them in the ar5e again. Karma can be a b!tch.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:55 pm

Phew!
I'm the most pessimistic Burnley fan in the universe but even I now reckon that we're safe.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:55 pm

BennyD wrote:Wouldn't it be fantastic to get our first away win of the season against Boro, and make their demise ever more likely. Last seasons bad grace might just come back to bite them in the ar5e again. Karma can be a b!tch.

For us to get that first away win, and effectively see us safe and them relegated would be a proper treat.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:55 pm

BennyD wrote:Wouldn't it be fantastic to get our first away win of the season against Boro, and make their demise ever more likely. Last seasons bad grace might just come back to bite them in the ar5e again. Karma can be a b!tch.

It's a shame we can't officially relegate them on Saturday.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:56 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:http://fansonline.net/middlesbrough/mb/ ... id=5243922

Case in point

Thanks for this

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:57 pm

I want to know what FactualFrank thinks

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:58 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:I have heard from the club that next year we'll be able to buy half tickets for home matches only so we don't have to waste time and money travelling to the away games.

I'd buy it for the first half. second half we tend to get overrun.
Thank god we didn't tonight.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:03 pm

Yes - we will finish on 40 points

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:04 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I want to know what FactualFrank thinks

He thought we wouldn't win another game

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:31 pm

I thought we wouldn't another game too!

We're in twelfth place, that's utterly amazing and I reckoned 32-35 points was going to be the hardest three points to get, the three points that maybe wouldn't even come.

I am currently eating my words.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:33 pm

1 more win is all thats now required

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:35 pm

Season: Points won by team that finished in 17th in the prem lge and stayed up

1995/96: 38
1996/97: 41
1997/98: 40
1998/99: 41
1999/00: 36
2000/01: 42
2001/02: 40
2002/03: 44
2003/04: 39
2004/05: 34
2005/06: 38
2006/07: 38
2007/08: 36
2008/09: 35
2009/10: 35
2010/11: 40
2011/12: 37
2012/13: 39
2013/14: 36
2014-15: 38
2015-16: 39
AVERAGE: 38.4

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:46 pm

Breath easy boys...we are safe.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:50 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Breath easy boys...we are safe.

Some of us have been breathing easy for weeks.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:50 pm

1 more win for me which will come at the weekend

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:52 pm

We were safe ages ago.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:25 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:We were safe ages ago.

Yep, I've been relaxed for about a month. Too many teams in the thick of it for Burnley to be dragged in. One more win to be sure.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:06 am

We're not safe on 35 points.
We need another 3 or 4 to be safe, me thinks.
Looking at their remaining fixtures then I think both Hull and Swansea are capable of getting another 3 wins - possibly more.
If they do then they'll be both on 36/37 points. Possibly more if they manage more than 3 wins.

Looking at our remaining fixtures then I'd like to believe we can get those 3 or 4 points.

Out goal difference is worth another point to us so we may get there with just another 3 points.

But i think we'll need 38 or 39 points to be safe.