Today's games

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:45 pm

if Swansea and Hull were going to stay up, then they both had to win today.

We need forty points, which wasn't the case before kick off!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:46 pm

Disallowed goal for Leeds.

Good

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:they missed so many chances at 0-0

They did. Sadly.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:50 pm

These results for Hull and Swansea could be fantastic for us - could be worth a couple of million quid extra if we finish above Watford and Stoke which is very possible. Keeps us focused too.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:51 pm

Forest goal disallowed, off side I think

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:51 pm

West Ham 0 Everton 0. It was a fascinating spectacle.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:52 pm

Our game at Palace will be massive looking at their fixtures

Liverpool vs Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace vs Spurs
Crystal Palace vs Burnley
Man. City vs Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace vs Hull City
Man United vs Crystal Palace

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:53 pm

Hull manager proving why KRBFC thinks he's the man to replace Dyche this summer.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:53 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:if Swansea and Hull were going to stay up, then they both had to win today.

We need forty points, which wasn't the case before kick off!

Have you seen Swansea's remaining fixtures? They include Man u and Everton.

Likewise, Hull's away for is worse than ours and they've got Spurs at home on the last day.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:54 pm

Doomed, doomed! We're all doomed!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:55 pm

Orient out of the league

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:57 pm

Basically we just need to beat Man Utd. Simple!

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:58 pm

I More point and we are safe.....thats all

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:59 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Basically we just need to beat Man Utd. Simple!

Given the week they've had and the players they have missing we'll never have a better chance

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:59 pm

Come on Brum!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:00 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Orient out of the league

Can't see them lasting much longer unfortunately
Amazing that Newport have overtaken Hartlepool too, they were well adrift not too long ago

Cup semi time now - Trippier starts for Spurs

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:02 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Hull manager proving why KRBFC thinks he's the man to replace Dyche this summer.

He's pretty incredible tbh, not lost a home league game in 3 years I think. They play some wonderful stuff too, without the quality of players we have. Goes to show, you don't need world class players to pass a ball like some on here bang on about.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:04 pm

they have pace

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:He's pretty incredible tbh, not lost a home league game in 3 years I think. They play some wonderful stuff too, without the quality of players we have. Goes to show, you don't need world class players to pass a ball like some on here bang on about.

So why is their away form worse than ours?

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:06 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Doomed, doomed! We're all doomed!

I agree, good job we can distract ourselves with football though.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:09 pm

Not being negative Spijed, just stating that we need 40 points.

If we can't get that from the remaining five games, then we are going to be relying on Hull and Swansea messing up.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:He's pretty incredible tbh, not lost a home league game in 3 years I think. They play some wonderful stuff too, without the quality of players we have. Goes to show, you don't need world class players to pass a ball like some on here bang on about.

I agree with you, KRBFC. I've always liked it when Burnley have a strong passing game. At present it is the weakest aspect of our team. Some of the greatest goals Burnley have scored have been at the end of a move including multiple great passes. Others have been from free kicks and corners.

Still, however Burnley have been playing this season we are in the Premier League - and will be again next season.

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Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:11 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Not being negative Spijed, just stating that we need 40 points.

If we can't get that from the remaining five games, then we are going to be relying on Hull and Swansea messing up.

That's true, can't argue with that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:11 pm

Spijed wrote:So why is their away form worse than ours?

Silva's been there two minutes compared to Dyche's 4 years. Silva was on a hiding to nothing, he took over the weakest side in the league by a country mile, problems with the owners which is why Bruce resigned and they were already in the doo doo. At one point, Hull were struggling to name 11 fit senior first team players. The transformation since he took over has been incredible, his recruitment top notch all while playing nice football. Since he took over there are not many sides who have taken more points than Hull. If he keeps them up, manager of the season for me, no doubt about it.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:14 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Given the week they've had and the players they have missing we'll never have a better chance

Hi Vegas, we beat ManU at the Turf in 2009 and they were lucky not to lose in 2014.

Yes, playing 120 mins on Thursday evening, plus loss of Zlatan and others with injuries makes their unbeaten run vulnerable.

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Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:Silva's been there two minutes compared to Dyche's 4 years. Silva was on a hiding to nothing, he took over the weakest side in the league by a country mile, problems with the owners which is why Bruce resigned and they were already in the doo doo. At one point, Hull were struggling to name 11 fit senior first team players. The transformation since he took over has been incredible, his recruitment top notch all while playing nice football. Since he took over there are not many sides who have taken more points than Hull. If he keeps them up, manager of the season for me, no doubt about it.

You'd choose him as manager of the season over Dyche?
I know you've got it in for Dyche, but I didn't realise how much until just now.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:22 pm

Sidney1st wrote:You'd choose him as manager of the season over Dyche?
I know you've got it in for Dyche, but I didn't realise how much until just now.

Yes absolutely, we had the strongest group of players hence winning the title last year. Silva has won far more points since taking over with a worse squad who were doomed when he took the job. Dyche has had 4 years to shape the squad and a hell of a lot of money.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:24 pm

If Swansea beat Man U or Everton, we might need 40 points.

That's a big IF though.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:34 pm

Swans have won 2 or their last 3 away at Man utd !

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:46 pm

Sidney1st wrote:You'd choose him as manager of the season over Dyche?
I know you've got it in for Dyche, but I didn't realise how much until just now.

Not about Dyche, he was never going to be manager of the season anyhow. Silva's short-term achievements at Hull, given the circumstances under which he started, are phenomenal. and if he keeps Hull up I think it's fair to say that he would be a better shout for manager of the season than SD (but I'd give it to Pochettino (sp?) .

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:53 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Not about Dyche, he was never going to be manager of the season anyhow. Silva's short-term achievements at Hull, given the circumstances under which he started, are phenomenal. and if he keeps Hull up I think it's fair to say that he would be a better shout for manager of the season than SD (but I'd give it to Pochettino (sp?) .

Why? Our home form has been great and our away form better than Hull's.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:53 pm

I'd probably choose Silva as manager of the year as well if he keeps them up. He has done an incredible job.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:11 pm

Silva has been very special - apparently Hull's owners deferred from appointing him in the summer because they were worried about a fans backlash - by Jan they had to do something - Still think he is auditioning for a bigger role - would be fascinated to see what he could do with Arsenal - pace is something they have in buckets, his ability to organise the team could make them awesome

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:14 pm

Dyche criticised for our away performances so why not Silva?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:22 pm

Spijed wrote:Why? Our home form has been great and our away form better than Hull's.

I don't know the exact numbers but I saw a table of points won since he took over. He was close to the top four. Maybe someone could post that table... Dyche has had five years to mould a team, he's had close to 2 full seasons to experience PL away games yet he still has no grasp on it. 1 win every 12 away game I believe his PL away record is.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:30 pm

You always bang on like away games are the be all and end all.

You pretty much ignore the home form for some bizarre reason.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:36 pm

KRBFC didn't you want the Huddersfield manager earlier in the season ? Got battered at HOME today and could well miss out on the play-offs

edit: apologies if it wasn't you btw !

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:46 pm

KRBFC wrote: without the quality of players we have.

Clueless.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:I don't know the exact numbers but I saw a table of points won since he took over. He was close to the top four. Maybe someone could post that table... Dyche has had five years to mould a team, he's had close to 2 full seasons to experience PL away games yet he still has no grasp on it. 1 win every 12 away game I believe his PL away record is.

Bit outdated but here it is

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Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:54 pm

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Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Not seeing a single person panicking, just stating facts

Vegas Claret wrote:we are in trouble for sure

Facts.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:59 pm

We're 5 points clear and Swansea have Manchester United and Everton next. They'll lose both of those and we'll need one win or two draws.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:14 pm

One draw surely? Barring a 15 (or at least 17 if you count their two predicted losses) goal swing.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:42 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Clueless.

I don't think its clueless to suggest we have a better group of players than Hull. We won the title last year, they were promoted via the play offs. Imagine if Grosicki or Markovic were playing for us, they would be sh**e as second fullbacks. Silva allows his players to express themselves offensively, they pass with a purpose and are calm in possession. Brady would be flying under Silva, Gray would be scoring for fun. Some on here were telling me you need Barcelona standard players to pass a ball and retain possession, its just good coaching and confidence. Coyle had it here, an average bunch of players over performing hugely.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:43 am

Sidney1st wrote:You always bang on like away games are the be all and end all.

You pretty much ignore the home form for some bizarre reason.

Not away results, away mentality.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:52 am

KRBFC wrote:I don't think its clueless to suggest we have a better group of players than Hull. We won the title last year, they were promoted via the play offs. Imagine if Grosicki or Markovic were playing for us, they would be sh**e as second fullbacks. Silva allows his players to express themselves offensively, they pass with a purpose and are calm in possession. Brady would be flying under Silva, Gray would be scoring for fun. Some on here were telling me you need Barcelona standard players to pass a ball and retain possession, its just good coaching and confidence. Coyle had it here, an average bunch of players over performing hugely.

Clueless.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:54 am

6 points away from the relegation zone with a game in hand. Definitely time to panic.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:01 am

KRBFC wrote:I don't think its clueless to suggest we have a better group of players than Hull. We won the title last year, they were promoted via the play offs. Imagine if Grosicki or Markovic were playing for us, they would be sh**e as second fullbacks. Silva allows his players to express themselves offensively, they pass with a purpose and are calm in possession. Brady would be flying under Silva, Gray would be scoring for fun. Some on here were telling me you need Barcelona standard players to pass a ball and retain possession, its just good coaching and confidence. Coyle had it here, an average bunch of players over performing hugely.

Since Hull City have signed 17 players since the end of last season, 11 of them from teams in the top division of England, France, Holland, Portugal, or Italy, I'm not quite clear why their form in last season's Championship is relevant?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:29 am

You really do have it in for Dyche

.

Its really quite amusing to read it sometimes.

Coyle motivated an average bunch of players, but by that logic Dyche has done the same.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:06 am

Sidney1st wrote:You really do have it in for Dyche .

Its really quite amusing to read it sometimes.

Coyle motivated an average bunch of players, but by that logic Dyche has done the same.

I wouldn't call our current crop an average bunch, not even close to the tosh we had under Coyle. I think you're getting confused and presuming so let me clear this up. I have praised Silva, why does that mean I have it in for Dyche? I don't understand why I'm not allowed to want my team to pass the ball and play abit. Do I have to be delighted because we've won a few games with a negative approach and hideous football? After the disgusting style served up by Cotterill, I said I never wanted to see that again. I could understand why Cotterill was playing that way though, he had Michael Duff as an emergency centre forward not a £10M striker.