Bidding war for £25m-rated Michael Keane

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:09 pm

Didn't know that Mee was entirely left-footed. That explains some of the errant passes that he makes while under pressure. As for Tarkowski, I disagree with any suggestion that he was horrible at the end of the year. To this eye, he fit in perfectly.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:37 pm

Latest talk is Keane has agreed terms with both United and Everton but as someone has said a few posts ago, United are more likely to get Lindoff.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:08 pm

United have agreed a deal with Lindelof so I doubt Keane is going there now.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:21 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Latest talk is Keane has agreed terms with both United and Everton but as someone has said a few posts ago, United are more likely to get Lindoff.

Surely though to have agreed terms then Burnley must have accepted bids from both United and Everton?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:46 pm

Latest talk my arse !

Everton are going to have £100m in their back sack soon and need a centre back (or 2) so link to Keane is logical - especially as Koeman has publically said it !

United link also obvious.

But I bet neither club have approached Burnley FC - and until they have and we are happy with the offer then Keane will not have agreed terms with anyone.

Just in case anyone forgot Keane is still employed by Burnley.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:12 pm

Simon Stone of the BBC now reporting Keane to United is a 100% a no go.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:13 pm

Braindead wrote:Surely though to have agreed terms then Burnley must have accepted bids from both United and Everton?

No, as long as Burnley have given him permission to talk to Man U and Everton, it's fine. Of course, if Keane agrees terms and then Burnley refuse to sell, then Burnley are risking a very unhappy Keane being left on the books; which suggests that Burnley may have agreed a fee, or come close.

California Colner · Post by **California Colner** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:36 pm

United have had an offer accepted for Victor Lindelof according to Sky and say United will not be getting any more central defenders . Now Everton are in for Keane

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:03 pm

TVC15 wrote:Latest talk my arse !

Everton are going to have £100m in their back sack soon and need a centre back (or 2) so link to Keane is logical - especially as Koeman has publically said it !

United link also obvious.

But I bet neither club have approached Burnley FC - and until they have and we are happy with the offer then Keane will not have agreed terms with anyone.

Just in case anyone forgot Keane is still employed by Burnley.

Are you new to how football works?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:42 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Are you new to how football works?

So you think Keane will have agreed terms with 2 clubs at the same time despite the fact that neither have agreed a fee with Burnley or even made an offer / approach.

Why would he need or want do that ?

We all know he is leaving - when there is a concrete approach he can talk to the clubs who make offers.

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:37 am

TVC15 wrote:So you think Keane will have agreed terms with 2 clubs at the same time despite the fact that neither have agreed a fee with Burnley or even made an offer / approach.

Why would he need or want do that ?

We all know he is leaving - when there is a concrete approach he can talk to the clubs who make offers.

Of course his agent will have spoken to clubs and proposed the wages etc. That's what agents do. Virgil van dyke situation was different because klopp had a meeting with him without fees being agreed. There is no way an players agent can't meet and place what the player expects in the event of a move.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:13 am

I'm sure the agent will be talking to clubs off the record and letting them all know the kind of deal Keane is expecting. That's a bit different though to saying Keane has agreed terms with Everton and United.

If terms were all agreed at this stage why is it that after an offer is made and accepted we always have to wait for personal terms to be agreed after the players medical ?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:47 am

TVC15 wrote:I'm sure the agent will be talking to clubs off the record and letting them all know the kind of deal Keane is expecting. That's a bit different though to saying Keane has agreed terms with Everton and United.

If terms were all agreed at this stage why is it that after an offer is made and accepted we always have to wait for personal terms to be agreed after the players medical ?

The difference will be that we haggle over everything.

The likely situation is that United have told his agent they will pay him 60k a week if he signs to double/triple his current wages and they will have jumped at it. Everton will of spoke to the agent and said 60k a week is agreed and they said we will match it.

If United or Everton only offered a 10% wage rise the agent would wait until the fee agreed hoping for a few clubs to join in to strengthen his hand.

burnleysteve · Post by **burnleysteve** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:12 pm

Threads merged here:

NO MORE CENTRE-BACKS
More info rolling in all the time on Manchester United's transfer business.
Sky Sports News HQ understands the deal for Victor Lindelof means United will no longer pursue another centre-back.
Virgil van Dijk, Michael Keane and an unnamed fourth player were being considered alongside Lindelof.
But we understand United will not be signing two centre-backs this summer.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:17 pm

and the other 18 teams?

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:22 pm

If Keane wants to play for United - he should sign a year extension with us - possibly with an agreed sale next summer at an agreed price - it is highly likely Keane will by then have learned from his mistakes this season and pushed on again and Mourinho will have had enough of Jones and/or Smalling

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:22 pm

Everton back as clear favourites to sign him

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:25 pm

I think he will stay..I hope he will stay .

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:31 pm

Crikey, SSN are a bit late with this. I read about this either yesterday or Friday.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:37 pm

Sky reported it yesterday

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:38 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Crikey, SSN are a bit late with this. I read about this either yesterday or Friday.

I read about it on the other Michael Keane thread which has 162 replies over 4 pages.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:48 pm

Sorry. Got a little over excited then.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:50 pm

Serious question... any chance we could actually get to the start of the season with MK still here and us in with a chance of keeping him?

Truly hope so.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:53 pm

bobinho wrote:Serious question... any chance we could actually get to the start of the season with MK still here and us in with a chance of keeping him?

Truly hope so.

There is a chance yes, but it would only be for the season because he's going either this summer, January or next summer.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:44 pm

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UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:58 pm

We'll end up getting about £8m for him.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:09 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We'll end up getting about £8m for him.

6... United get 25%!!!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:49 pm

tim_noone wrote:I think he will stay..I hope he will stay .

He's a regular at Burnley,I think he will be part of next seasons journey along with Sean dyche.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:03 pm

Would love him to play for us next season but If a move is to happen which looks likely I'd rather it be sorted sooner rather than later so we can add the cash to the transfer war chest.
Avoids losing potential signing because 'We couldn't make X deal until Y deal was agreed' as the deadline approaches.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:58 pm

Story I have is he is happy to stay next season and let his contract run down, then he pockets the 20 or so million as a sign on fee or increased wages.
So it could be he is still here next season.
Either way I will be happy as long as he plays as well next season as he did this.

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:43 pm

£20 on Keane to stay with sky bet and he goes from 16/1 to 12/1

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:48 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:6... United get 25%!!!

£4.5m....it'll likely be 25% of any profit!

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:03 pm

ayrshireclaret83 wrote:£20 on Keane to stay with sky bet and he goes from 16/1 to 12/1

Add my fiver to that at 16/1 earlier!

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:23 pm

The hold up is probably with him being injured, he won't pass a medical.

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:30 pm

16/1 still on Betfair

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:47 pm

Sign a new 3 year contract with Burnley - pay rise and reasonable release clause. Show his class in Burnley's second season in the Premier League. Become regular starter for England and put in a great performance in World Cup 2018 (alongside Tom Heaton). Join whoever he wants for 2018/19 season - or decent loyalty bonus if he remains with the Clarets. Either way we will all be winners.

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Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:33 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Sign a new 3 year contract with Burnley - pay rise and reasonable release clause. Show his class in Burnley's second season in the Premier League. Become regular starter for England and put in a great performance in World Cup 2018 (alongside Tom Heaton). Join whoever he wants for 2018/19 season - or decent loyalty bonus if he remains with the Clarets. Either way we will all be winners.

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If Carlsberg did football transfers.

Unfortunately they don't, agents do and for that reason Keane will not be a Claret next season.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:41 pm

Braindead wrote:If Carlsberg did football transfers.

Unfortunately they don't, agents do and for that reason Keane will not be a Claret next season.

It's the "Carlsberg" football transfers that I've "liked."

Though wasn't it Carling that did the first series of great ads with humour? "Refreshes the parts other lagers cannot reach!"

(Guinness did the great arty ads).

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:32 am

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Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:43 am

Pickford has just gone to Everton for 30mill, I like the lad, but he isn't worth as much as Keane. Where does that leave us in valuation terms.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:50 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:Pickford has just gone to Everton for 30mill, I like the lad, but he isn't worth as much as Keane. Where does that leave us in valuation terms.

Exactly where we were. £25 million or thereabouts.

Pickford signed a long term contract with Sunderland last year, expiring in 2020, so his valuation is always going to be much higher than Keane right now.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:09 pm

I know what you mean but still disagree. The gut feeling says transfer fees are going to shoot up again this window. We'll probably need a couple of 20mill pound players, just to stand still.
If we let Keane go for 25mill we'll be muppets. I'd rather he went for free next summer than allow someone to rip us off.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:16 pm

The only way we'll get more than £25m is if we have a bidding war between two or more clubs. In that scenario we might push towards £30m but certainly no higher. If he had a long term contract like Pickford then I fully expect we wouldn't be looking to sell for anything less than £50m (in line with the Stones deal) but we're not in the driving seat here. If Keane's agent starts pushing for a move, which I think he will, by saying Keane is unhappy and wants to leave to further his International chances etc etc then we'll just need to get what we can. I'm convinced he'll be gone and it'll be for nothing more than £25m.

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:23 pm

if/when keane moves and lets say he goes to utd/liverpool....were he to have a blinding season or 2 he could be worth 50 million plus......question.....what is the biggest percentage sell on fee we could ask for based on past deals ?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:25 pm

Not sure that Express article is right. All the info suggested he was mad keen for a move to United.

I reckon he'll be thinking very carefully where to go now.

Claretnick · Post by **Claretnick** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:37 pm

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United sign Lindelof for £31m, does this make it more likely Keane stays with us to get his regular football?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:50 pm

Pickfords deal is up to 30m, believed to be 17million up front with a load of add ons

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:48 pm

According to Burnley FC as of this morning they have not been contacted by any clubs about our players.

Actively pursuing 19/20 targets, agreed this week between manager, finance and recruitment team.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:42 am

Given the reported value of Maguire I'd say we should hold out for a lot better than £25m.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:08 am

Loyalclaret wrote:According to Burnley FC as of this morning they have not been contacted by any clubs about our players.

Actively pursuing 19/20 targets, agreed this week between manager, finance and recruitment team.

I suspect clubs might come calling later in the summer for Keane. The closer to September we get the more chance he leaves on a free next summer ad I'm not sure that's something our Board would want to see happen. I'd love him to stay but the fact remains that even with the TV money we get these days we can't ignore the potential sale of a player for £20m plus. We still need to accept who we are and our overall financial standing in this league. £20m is a huge sum of money.