3m Striker bid

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:17 pm

No he isn't an improvement to Gray.

But he is defo an improvement to Agyei and could be argued an improvement on Vokes and Barnes.

are you saying you think we are buying him to replace Gray ?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Spice, let's put it another way:
Would Walters be an improvement on Gray?

Nope,
Or Vokes,
Or Barnes for that matter.

And people saying he's 33, he's 34 after half a dozen games.

I don't care what goes on as long as we stay up, but I won't pretend he's a good signing.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:21 pm

A Stoke friend of mine is really hoping he won't leave them. He's a very good player.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:23 pm

I think we need 4/5 strikers so I would be very happy if we kept Gray and also had Vokes Barnes Walters and brought in a goal scoring striker say like Assombalonga

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:26 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Spice, let's put it another way:
Would Walters be an improvement on Gray?

No. But thats not the question, is it?

Ive just said that whether Walters was a good signing will depend on what other business we do. So why not keep an open mind until weve done it?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:31 pm

claretspice wrote:No. But thats not the question, is it?

Well, it is actually, if only because I asked it.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:50 pm

Huddersfield are buying 22 year old Steve Mounie from Montpellier for 13 million euros while we dick around offering peanuts for Walters

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:56 pm

A one year contract just as cover maybe but anything more foolish.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:56 pm

joey13 wrote:Huddersfield are buying 22 year old Steve Mounie from Montpellier for 13 million euros while we dick around offering peanuts for Walters

We should be use to it by now . Its going to be a long summer

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:58 pm

ablueclaret wrote:A one year contract just as cover maybe but anything more foolish.

As cover for what boyd ? Why cant we get a player that has pace and good at crossing and letting the strikers do the rest

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:07 pm

We've been here enough to judge in a few months.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:26 pm

joey13 wrote:Huddersfield are buying 22 year old Steve Mounie from Montpellier for 13 million euros while we dick around offering peanuts for Walters

The Boro syndrome is still going strong I see.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:29 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:The Boro syndrome is still going strong I see.

Just stating a fact

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:32 pm

I don't think that the 'dick around' bit is fact Joey13.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:34 pm

Or the 'peanuts'.

Who the feck is Steve Mounie anyway? At least Boro were signing players we'd heard of.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:35 pm

As close to a Dyche template player you can get.

Has plenty of ability otherwise he wouldn't have been plying his trade mid table in the Prem for the last few years.

Adaptable, hard working and can score when given the opportunity.

We need players now, no matter what their age is, we need to stay in the league, so building for the future by bringing in too many young players is folly at this point, it's a mixture of ages that's required.

Walters would be fine by me.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:38 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I don't think that the 'dick around' bit is fact Joey13.

One mans dick around is another mans decent offer .

claretfern · Post by **claretfern** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:40 pm

Who knows about Mounie....I would expect Wagner knows the foreign market enough for Huddersfield to take a punt. I hope we are not dismissing looking for young foreign talent....and by foreign, I don't mean the Irish Republic !

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:22 am

Rewind two years and it's the same emptyheads saying similar things about Burnley potentially signing Joey Barton, 'we need younger players not mid thirties over-the-hill ones'. He ended up being player of the year.

Also how is it that a player who has plied his trade at a club that has constantly beaten us and finished higher than we have in league terms, is now deemed 'not good enough' for us?

Has two seasons in the premier league really made us that arrogant?

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:37 am

I hope this deal goes through and he replaces grey. My new business venture involving claret and blue neck braces would get a real shot in the arm..

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:11 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:'This is frankly humiliating'

What?

We need a fourth striker. It is fairly obvious that Gray will also need to be replaced. Rumoured interest in Ashley Barnes being made by other clubs and no rebuttals made by the club or player. Lots of press comment that we value Gray at £10m. We are linked with Assombalonga but at figures in the press of a minimum of £11m. We are linked with Wells but quickly are de-linked. These stories are unconfirmed and not yet subject to any firm bids that we know of.

What however does seem to have more truth to it though is a bid made for Walters who frankly doesn't light up the sky as even a fourth striker. Yet it can be an easy set of circumstances to believe in is the fact that Walters wants regular game time and he wouldn't get that as a fourth striker with us. So why make the bid unless he is being considered as more than the fourth striker.

What is frankly humiliating is that the only bid that has a ring of truth to it is for Walters which is really disappointing in itself but add to the fact that Stoke have had a pop at Burnley for making a derisory bid of six figures then it is absolutely humiliating. Is this what the club are really reduced to ?

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:28 am

3 Million striker bid? How about four strikers? Squad of 22, four strikers. We don't need 3 million strikers.

oswyclaret · Post by **oswyclaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:25 am

Stan Tastic wrote:I sincerely hope I hear nothing further on this appalling potential signing.

Leave it up to the gaffer,how can anybody question his decision making..in Sean we trust!

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:52 am

Vegas Claret wrote:Burnley scouting and player recruitment list leaked
http://www.skysports.com/football/teams ... land/squad

Well we did start off playing in Green.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:05 am

I think he's worth buying and if we can get him and Charlie Adam for £3-4m that would be good business

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:11 am

Claret&Green wrote:Well we did start off playing in Green.

Hummmmmm Jade and Black ??????

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:39 am

joey13 wrote:Huddersfield are buying 22 year old Steve Mounie from Montpellier for 13 million euros while we dick around offering peanuts for Walters

If you rate Mounie that highly how come you have never suggested him as a signing or are you basing how good he is on a £10 million price tag ?

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:47 am

Not a goalscorer but an important part of stokes team for while. And they've managed to stay up for about 10 season.

Just because we've got money doesn't mean we should buy any foreign lad who's got 17 pace on football manager. A lot of clarets fans turning up their nose to perfectly good players like him and Whelan. We've only survived one season for God's sake. This takes time and these players can contribute (without eating a lot of our finances, that can go towards other players)

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:57 am

Walters can't half attack a ball, something that some of our squad are less good at.

I can see him doing well sniffing around the bits and pieces that arise when we sling balls into the box.

Getting older, but probably a bit better than Taylor was when we signed him, similar pedigree and age. We have tons of money including Keane and probably Gray sales, so the odd million here and there isn't a worry.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:07 am

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Seems like we have offered less than £3m.
Stoke fans definitely split on the possibility of losing him. He's their leading ever Premier League goalscorer. Sure this is to challenge for the Barnes /Vokes role and strengthen the Irish contingent. I think he'd be a good acquisition as the 4th striker - get agyei out on loan.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:16 am

I don't see this as being anything than a low risk signing. I'd be surprised if both Hennings and Agyei weren't shipped back out on loan again. Boyd is leaving so it's quite conceivable that he could fit into that Boyd role or as fourth striker. He certainly is no slouch and if people have forgot last season at Stoke. He can finish. Of course, I'd still be expecting others come in to strengthen the squad. I'd be very disappointed if this was our only signing in that department but encouraged if he was part of a larger strategy and signed as part of several other incomings.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:31 am

The sort of player we don't need on the books if we are relegated, that has always to be in the back of our mind.
At present we have no-one in the squad who might make getting out of the Championship a probability, other than Defour who certainly won't be here if we should take the drop.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:35 am

ablueclaret wrote:The sort of player we don't need on the books if we are relegated, that has always to be in the back of our mind.
At present we have no-one in the squad who might make getting out of the Championship a probability, other than Defour who certainly won't be here if we should take the drop.

Defour or Walters in the Championship? I'd pick Walters every time for that division.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:53 am

claretdom wrote:If you rate Mounie that highly how come you have never suggested him as a signing or are you basing how good he is on a £10 million price tag ?

Where does it say I rate him ?
And haven't we got scouts to spot players not someone on a messageboard.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:01 am

Thought as much

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:00 am

ablueclaret wrote:The sort of player we don't need on the books if we are relegated, that has always to be in the back of our mind.
At present we have no-one in the squad who might make getting out of the Championship a probability, other than Defour who certainly won't be here if we should take the drop.

What about all the players who were part of the squad that won the Championship title just over a year ago?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:05 am

Every good side needs a few special players then we had Heaton Keane Mee Barton and Gray, can't see any of those being with us if we get relegated can you?

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:37 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Some of his signings have been ludicrous. If this is one prepare for a long hard season.

If only there was evidence that we weren't in for a long hard season. Can anyone recall the last time we strolled through a season?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:49 pm

For me, Walters would be decent for us but I wanted us to sign a striker different to what we had, I can see us starting the season with 4 strikers in the squad. Barnes Walters Gray and Vokes would be pretty uninspiring. We need a link man, a partner for Gray should be our number 1 target (before anyone leaves) we simply dont need another targetman who scores less than the 2 we currently have. Walters would be good if Barnes was leaving because we'd have space to bring in another striker.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:00 pm

Braindead wrote:Rewind two years and it's the same emptyheads saying similar things about Burnley potentially signing Joey Barton, 'we need younger players not mid thirties over-the-hill ones'. He ended up being player of the year.

Also how is it that a player who has plied his trade at a club that has constantly beaten us and finished higher than we have in league terms, is now deemed 'not good enough' for us?

Has two seasons in the premier league really made us that arrogant?

If message boards had existed in the 70s and 80s, exactly the same would have been said about Mike Summerbee and Tommy Hutchison in our old 1st division and 3rd division days respectively. Both turned out to be excellent signings.

I hope we sign Walters.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:07 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:If only there was evidence that we weren't in for a long hard season. Can anyone recall the last time we strolled through a season?

The season before last. And the one two seasons before that.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:23 pm

Jonathon Walters three seasons ago would have been a good signing, when we first got in the Prem under Dyche.
Good player for Stoke but career path now on a gradual decline, not a player we should be bothering with.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:29 pm

Certainly would be a Dyche type signing. Will reserve judgement, but we need to be careful we don't end up with a team of old men who are just here for one final good contract. Would prefer us to go for the likes of Mee and Trippier of a few years ago, young lads being released by bigger clubs who are hungry and got a point to prove.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:For me, Walters would be decent for us but I wanted us to sign a striker different to what we had, I can see us starting the season with 4 strikers in the squad. Barnes Walters Gray and Vokes would be pretty uninspiring. We need a link man, a partner for Gray should be our number 1 target (before anyone leaves) we simply dont need another targetman who scores less than the 2 we currently have. Walters would be good if Barnes was leaving because we'd have space to bring in another striker.

Yesterday you called Walters a "fat clogger".Make your mind up.Maybe there are other strikers in the pipeline who knows.Maybe Gray will leave who knows.I personally think Walters would be a replacement for Boyd who knows.Why don't we wait till the end of the window before being uninspired.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:56 pm

Jimscho wrote:Yesterday you called Walters a "fat clogger".Make your mind up.Maybe there are other strikers in the pipeline who knows.Maybe Gray will leave who knows.I personally think Walters would be a replacement for Boyd who knows.Why don't we wait till the end of the window before being uninspired.

he is a fat clogger, I did say it would be pretty uninspiring if we ended the window with Gray, Walters, Barnes and Vokes.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:12 pm

He is certainly not fat. As for 'clogger', you are talking daft.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:53 pm

Blokes sat behind a keyboard calling International footballers " fat cloggers "

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:02 pm

Although older, I'd be amazed if he wasn't better than Vokes and Barnes.

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:27 pm

Fat Clogger

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:41 pm

joey13 wrote:Huddersfield are buying 22 year old Steve Mounie from Montpellier for 13 million euros while we dick around offering peanuts for Walters

You are the type of man that makes me laugh! Suggesting we are not in for unknown foreigners instead of proven prem players! With you in charge we would be in serious bother.Think Walters would be a no brainer for a season,he won't excite many but he still has a good season in him I would say.