Walters fee agreed

leem5ki · Post by **leem5ki** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:57 pm

I don't get all the negativity to be honest. Our goal next season is once again to stay up and it will be a battle to do so. Let's start to be realistic.

From the away end at Stoke last season I can honestly say that I thought Walters was very good against us. Strong physicality and despite a lack of pace his movement was what got him his goal and a fine one it was to, Everton's new 30 million pound central defender found him difficult enough to play with that day.

My mate down in Stoke is very disappointed at the prospect of Walters leaving as he is often the go to man and Captain down there.

Give him a chance if he comes and if it all starts to go breasts vertical say by November, I'll hold my hands up.

Remember many of uswere very underwhelmed when signed Dean Marney

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:00 pm

Good signing if it is confirmed.

I can understand why people are moaning, it is a Burnley Website and signing Diego Costa would be met with derision by some 'fans'. I often wonder where all the moaning minnies congregate on a matchday, hang on, that's it, behind a bloody keyboard probably!

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leem5ki · Post by **leem5ki** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:01 pm

We might have more Irish players than Shamrock Rovers come next weeks Friendly.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:09 pm

Good versatile player to have on the bench, might even be a starter if he's that keen to show his world cup credentials. Certainly can't complain if we get him for £3m or less. Just as long as he's not an alternative to Assambalonga.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:13 pm

Looking at the side as it stands we are short a replacement for Keane. Have Westwood for Barton. Walters for Boyd. Taylor for flanagan. Pretty much bar one position as strong. Garlick said we would more than likely spend more than last year so I think the big money signings will come in later.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:19 pm

Can't say I'm overly impressed. Fine as a back up option but I doubt he'd be coming to us to sit on the bench. As the days roll on I'm more and more convinced that Dyche cannot do anything other than hard working journeyman or championship players.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:21 pm

Some classic opinions on here.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:24 pm

People who keep saying "people would moan if we sign Messi etc" seriously need to get a grip. There are a number of reasons people may be disappointed by this. People were excited for Brady and Defour, an uninspiring signing like this isn't. We are signing a 34 year old striker/winger who's legs may have gone and has never had a good goal scoring season of his life and will likely lead us to start with Arfield and Walters on the wing, god have mercy on my soul.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:24 pm

TsarBomba wrote:And out of those 8, how many were the back 5?

Yes, there are few players that can compete for 90 minutes in the PL. That's properly competing, not just staying on the field for the 90 every game, and looking shot by the final whistle.

Edit- How many late goals did we concede last year? In both halves? I would say quite a few. At times, our midfield was completely non existent at the end of games. Players like Barton may have been on for 90 minutes, but certainly weren't 'competing'.

I forgot to mention the numerous games where we didn't make all 3 substitutes. Generally our substitutes are made to change the emphasis of the team either by going more attacking or more defensive. Quite often they're made to waste time in the dying minutes. Defour is the only player I believe we have who is nailed on to be taken off after 60-70 minutes. Gray and Vokes have occasionally been withdrawn because they've physically faded but I can't think of any others.

I'm not sure how many goals we've conceded late in games but I think we've also scored quite a few goals late in games, particularly in the season before.

Anyway - this thread isn't about Steven Defour who must surely have plenty of Premier League suitors lining up to sign him if he is as good or as fit as you think.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:25 pm

Zom Zom wrote:We are only a few days into the bloody transfer window. Did you expect to have all our deals settled by now?

I give in. I'll be back in August.

No i dont but i think they will be done back end of august

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:26 pm

Right_winger wrote:As the days roll on I'm more and more convinced that Dyche cannot do anything other than hard working journeyman or championship players.

Which of those categories does Walters fit into?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:33 pm

Stoke know we're a soft target. If they don't need a 34 year old striker neither do we.
Hope it's a one year deal or we'll be carrying a veteran around with us for years.

As uninspiring a deal as you could imagine, let's hope the rest in a whole heap better.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:36 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Stoke know we're a soft target. If they don't need a 34 year old striker neither do we.
Hope it's a one year deal or we'll be carrying a veteran around with us for years.

As uninspiring a deal as you could imagine, let's hope the rest in a whole heap better.

Can you not see the reasoning behind this, Ablue? Is it all completely negative or can you see some positives?

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:37 pm

Mitchell Thomas
Ian Wright
David Unsworth
Graham Alexander

Just a handful of players in their mid-thirties signing for Burnley and they all did alreet

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:43 pm

None in the premier League.

I could live with a 1 year contract but any more no.

We refused Boyd anything more so to offer any more to Walters would be absurd and completely at odds with club policy.

Deardeary · Post by **Deardeary** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:43 pm

Suspect Walters has been signed as much for his leadership in the dressing room and on the pitch, the same thing Joey gave us. This guy is a leader and a proven PL player £2-3m is a snip, and we've missed Joeys leadership no more stake

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:44 pm

Same people moaning about age would be delighted if we signed Defoe -

If you look after yourself/not had a history of injuries (& have some half decent genes) then you can play well into your 30s; especially if pace/acceleration aren't the most important parts to your game.

They think Ronaldo will be able to play at a top level till he's 40 due to the previously mentioned points - and so do I!

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:48 pm

For a defender maybe, even perhaps a mecurial player who has kept fit, but a player who will add very little to our style of play and probably be a burden for a couple of years if we get relegated. No.

Stoke know what they are about they've sold us two duds before.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:50 pm

He bags

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:50 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Stoke know we're a soft target. If they don't need a 34 year old striker neither do we.
Hope it's a one year deal or we'll be carrying a veteran around with us for years.

As uninspiring a deal as you could imagine, let's hope the rest in a whole heap better.

sorry to disappoint you but it is 2 years with a 3rd year option.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:50 pm

ablueclaret wrote:I remain deeply unimpressed, the antithesis of the type of signing we need.

same here, you are the antithesis of the type of supporter we need

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:59 pm

Think we will sign players for large fees(for Burnley) before the window closes but suspect this might be one of the best signings.Think he is replacement for Boyd and as such brings a wealth of Prem experience,more of a leader on the pitch,more aggressive and more attacking than Boyd was.Boyd of course,who I liked,will of course now become a world beater on here for some people who probably only scored him 5 or 6.Probably will be signed on 2 year deal so don't worry ABC we won't be lumbered with him for years.Wont need too much bedding into the team either as he has played with many of them.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:04 pm

Jimscho wrote:Think we will sign players for large fees(for Burnley) before the window closes but suspect this might be one of the best signings.Think he is replacement for Boyd and as such brings a wealth of Prem experience,more of a leader on the pitch,more aggressive and more attacking than Boyd was.Boyd of course,who I liked,will of course now become a world beater on here for some people who probably only scored him 5 or 6.Probably will be signed on 2 year deal so don't worry ABC we won't be lumbered with him for years.Wont need too much bedding into the team either as he has played with many of them.

Boyd fan here. And struggling to understand why we didn't offer him a straight two year deal. His fitness has never been in doubt, and we could even have sold him for a small fee if things weren't working out.
This is not an anti-Walters post. I can see why we might need someone like him. But he will be 36+ at the end of his contract!

charlyt · Post by **charlyt** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:05 pm

Decent signing.
He's a worker and a scorer.
He'll slot in well.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:06 pm

Sumptuous as a footballer, is how I see Mr Walters

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:07 pm

ABC talks shite.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:12 pm

Always liked this fella. Just what we need, he has bags of EPL experience and can play in numerous positions. The fee reported to be in the 2-3 million figure is decent business for a 33 year old with his experience and attitude.
He will certainly be an asset

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:12 pm

I've just read it's a two year contract with an option of a third? For the love of god don't tell me it's his option to have the third. Why go in for Walters on a two year contract and not offer a two year one to Boyd?

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:12 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Boyd fan here. And struggling to understand why we didn't offer him a straight two year deal. His fitness has never been in doubt, and we could even have sold him for a small fee if things weren't working out.
This is not an anti-Walters post. I can see why we might need someone like him. But he will be 36+ at the end of his contract!

Maybe he wanted more money as well as a 2 year deal.Unfortunately we will never know what goes on behind closed doors and in contract negotiations.If he is signed on a 2 year deal he will actually be 35 at the end of his contract.He is only 33 at the moment.Defoe will be 37 at the end of his contract.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Boyd fan here. And struggling to understand why we didn't offer him a straight two year deal. His fitness has never been in doubt, and we could even have sold him for a small fee if things weren't working out.
This is not an anti-Walters post. I can see why we might need someone like him. But he will be 36+ at the end of his contract!

I'd say we've got a much more Premier League savvy player in Walters than Boyd. Walters will bring work rate and adaptability (perhaps a little more than Boyd) whilst hopefully adding more of a goal threat and allowing us to play more than just 4-4-2 effectively.

It's a short term solid signing, no more no less.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:15 pm

We know nothing!
That's why we are fans. We can have an opinion. Just don't think anyone else will take notice!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:15 pm

Good but slow winger

Could also be a description of Boyd!

This guy brings loads of experience and an eye for goal and also street wise enough to fill in for the gap left by Barton

Hope this goes through

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:18 pm

DCWat wrote:I'd say we've got a much more Premier League savvy player in Walters than Boyd. Walters will bring work rate and adaptability (perhaps a little more than Boyd) whilst hopefully adding more of a goal threat and allowing us to play more than just 4-4-2 effectively.

It's a short term solid signing, no more no less.

I'm not comparing Walters with Boyd, I'd have them both in the squad.
I'm just a little surprised that Boyd wasn't offered 2 years.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:22 pm

For me a great utility player, and if you think what was going to pay for Snodgrass who again wasn't the quickest of wingers, this could be classed as an absolute steal.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:25 pm

Boyd as an attacking option didn't want the ball and didn't know what to with it when he got it unless he was in shooting range.
Walters wants the ball and when it's at his feet he is a gifted attack minded player.

wickdkewlclaret · Post by **wickdkewlclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:25 pm

I can see it now, just the right signing to get us out the **** with last minute goal, as his experience shines. Don't bad mouth him touch much guys, there's every chance it will bite you in the ass!

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:26 pm

ClaretAL wrote:For me a great utility player, and if you think what was going to pay for Snodgrass who again wasn't the quickest of wingers, this could be classed as an absolute steal.

Might still get Snodgrass as make-weight for Andre!

holdyourfire · Post by **holdyourfire** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:46 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:I've just read it's a two year contract with an option of a third? For the love of god don't tell me it's his option to have the third. Why go in for Walters on a two year contract and not offer a two year one to Boyd?

Cos walters is a better player!

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:50 pm

Think this guy will be an astute piece of business. Always been underrated IMO. Just hope we can take it over the line.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:57 pm

holdyourfire wrote:Cos walters is a better player!

Certainly more quick to the loose ball and more clinical.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:01 pm

Better in possession, stronger, better in the air, more of a goal threat, more experienced.

I think it's safe to say he's an upgrade on Boyd - which is ideal in the short term.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:02 pm

As Rileybobs says eloquently.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:09 pm

We won't be playing 4-4-2

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:17 pm

Boyd did a job for us with his endless running a checking back, but going forward he offered little. Walters has far more experience than Boyd at this level and he is rated far higher than Boyd.

Good business on our part offers loads of experience and a great addition to the dressing room.

The Stoke fans are gutted that Jon is moving on, they would have offered him an extension of his contract if they have had there way

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:21 pm

ablueclaret wrote:We won't be playing 4-4-2

We'll be setting up in a Riverdance formation.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:23 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:I've just read it's a two year contract with an option of a third? For the love of god don't tell me it's his option to have the third. Why go in for Walters on a two year contract and not offer a two year one to Boyd?

Because he's a much better player.

I am delighted with this. My Stoke mate is very disappointed.

Woonderbah · Post by **Woonderbah** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Better in possession, stronger, better in the air, more of a goal threat, more experienced.

I think it's safe to say he's an upgrade on Boyd - which is ideal in the short term.

I've liked Boyd as a player and he's never failed to come across as a decent bloke.
But I think it's also telling that seemingly no other PL clubs were in for him.
Even a newly promoted club looking to get a foothold in this league wanting a player with PL experience and with no transfer fee...
Having said that he may be given a freer role at SW and enjoy the experience.
Walters definitely gives us more of an edge and I hope he does well.
All positive I'd say.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:27 pm

Stoke know exactly what they are doing.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:28 pm

Low risk quality signing if true.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:29 pm

Ohhhhhh i do hope we get him . I winner indeed and will put his life on the line for the club that's what we will get from Walters .
He is a perfect fit for us and i could not be any more happy , hummm well if we pick up Shane Long and about 4 other Irish players we could have the full set .
As i keep saying " it's a great time to be an Irish Claret " .......................