ARTICLE: Bardsley linked with Burnley return

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:55 am

ablueclaret wrote:I'm sure CT can fill you in on that one Jimscho. Long is very underrated he could do a decent job there in an emergency.

I can - I think I saw him play there once in a reserve game and he was clearly ill equipped to play in that position. So that's another one you've got ridiculously wrong ablueclaret.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:56 am

Sorry got to head to the allotment now the courgettes won't wait.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:56 am

Your memory doesn't serve you well CT but keep on researching.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:59 am

I'm impressed people are asking ABC when he's seen Long play right back.

This is the person who recommended Edgar and Tarkowski for defensive midfield without seeing much of them playing at centre back, never mind midfield.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:11 am

A while back he also suggested Ben Mee for a defensive midfield role

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:17 am

A while back a lot of the happy clappers on here scoffed at the idea of dropping Duff and moving Mee to centre half and look how that turned out

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:28 am

Exactly. You disagree with the principle of signing players like Barton, I don't.

RattyClaret · Post by **RattyClaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:39 am

He played once for Rochdale vs Brentford as a RB and they lost

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:40 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:A while back a lot of the happy clappers on here scoffed at the idea of dropping Duff and moving Mee to centre half and look how that turned out

Difference is Mee had experience of playing centre back when he was captain of Man City's cup winning youth team.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:40 pm

You are either suggesting SD takes notice of my ideas, or that he has similar thoughts Sidney because he used both as holding midfielders.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:15 pm

dsr wrote:Of course you're allowed your opinion. You have just come on here and posted, with a straight face, that you know more about player signings than Sean Dyche. I have no objection to that - you are absolutely allowed that opinion.

But when I say that I completely disagree, it's one of the wrongest and strangest opinions I have read on this board, and that I'm staggered that anyone could have such a high opinion of himself, I'm not taking away your right to say what you say. I'm expressing my right to say what I believe.

It was sarcasm btw......

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:21 pm

Is he here yet?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:22 pm

Ben Mee was always a centre back playing out of position at left back.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:39 pm

But it took SD an age to realise that.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:43 pm

No it didn't Abc.

Mee was doing a good job at left back, plus he wasn't going to dislodge what was a good centre back partnership unless there was an injury etc.

Same with Keane having to wait for his chance.

You're just trying to insinuate Dyche didn't have a clue what he was doing and took to long to make a change that's actually worked well.

If he'd move Mee and Mee had been a disaster you would've been on here castigating Dyche for moving a player who was doing well at left back.

Yes you are that predictable...

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:49 pm

So good they named them twice
Dumb and dumber

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:50 pm

KRBFC wrote:It was sarcasm btw......

Always difficult to tell with you.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:51 pm

Sadly it did Sidney but you live your reality if it keeps you happy.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:03 pm

What's the latest on Bardsley then?

SparkyClaret · Post by **SparkyClaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:06 pm

KRBFC wrote: signing over the hill players like Bardsley is the way to survive.

Isn't he younger than Ward?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:23 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Sadly it did Sidney but you live your reality if it keeps you happy.

Got to be better than being permanently miserable then you..

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:24 pm

SparkyClaret wrote:Isn't he younger than Ward?

Bardsley is older than Ward, age is irrelevant, Ronaldo is the same age I think. Bardsley is over the hill, Ronaldo isn't. I cant believe fans aren't allowed to be critical of us potentially signing Phil Bardsley, laughable. I was critical of us signing Sordell, Juke and Reid at the time and was labelled a negative bore and shut down. Was I negative or realistic? The way it turned out I had every right to be critical.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:28 pm

How long does it taker to get over signing Sordell

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:31 pm

So a 32 year old is 'over the hill' is he? He is clearly an upgrade on Darikwa who is a terrible footballer and has spent most of his career in the PL.
I would be happy to add him to the squad and would be a lot more comfortable with him playing at full back should Lowton get injured, than TD, who is a liability.
Sign him on.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:41 pm

Braindead wrote:So a 32 year old is 'over the hill' is he? He is clearly an upgrade on Darikwa who is a terrible footballer and has spent most of his career in the PL.
I would be happy to add him to the squad and would be a lot more comfortable with him playing at full back should Lowton get injured, than TD, who is a liability.
Sign him on.

Who cares how many years they've been warming the bench in the PL for, completely irrelevant. The same rubbish was spouted when Reid was joining, his PL experience counted for nothing because he could no longer play football. Lets sign Maradona eh? Experienced at the top level, so why not?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:I cant believe fans aren't allowed to be critical of us potentially signing Phil Bardsley, laughable.

You still don't get it./ Who is stopping you being critical of the signing? This board for over a year has provided fans with a platform to be as critical of the club as they want, and you have certainly taken advantage of that right. You have slagged the club off more than anyone else on the board. Plenty of people have told you that they disagree with you, but that's a far different thing from not being allowed to do it.

Put it simply: a poster is allowed to post garbage. Other posters are allowed to point out that it's garbage.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:It was sarcasm btw......

Perhaps there should be a sarcastic emoji

Or am I being sarcastic?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:48 pm

Is anyone going to point out to KRBFC that Stoke have a better right back as first choice in Glen Johnson?

Or would that be ignored to suit his foot stamping agenda?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:03 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Is anyone going to point out to KRBFC that Stoke have a better right back as first choice in Glen Johnson?

Or would that be ignored to suit his foot stamping agenda?

From what I've seen on their forum, they'd prefer to lose Johnson of the two.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:05 pm

DCWat wrote:From what I've seen on their forum, they'd prefer to lose Johnson of the two.

What would they know about him ? They clearly don't know as much about him as the oracle on here.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:09 pm

Does this mean the club are making a mistake and being linked with the wrong player??

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:13 pm

KRBFC wrote:Who cares how many years they've been warming the bench in the PL for, completely irrelevant. The same rubbish was spouted when Reid was joining, his PL experience counted for nothing because he could no longer play football. Lets sign Maradona eh? Experienced at the top level, so why not?

So where is your evidence that a) Bardsley can no longer play football and b) He is over the hill at 32

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:16 pm

Braindead wrote:So where is your evidence that a) Bardsley can no longer play football and b) He is over the hill at 32

Watch him play, see for yourself, do I really need to spoon feed you?

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:19 pm

KRBFC wrote:Watch him play, see for yourself, do I really need to spoon feed you?

How many times have you seen him play then to form your opinion? Let me guess, none? You just already know?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:22 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Is anyone going to point out to KRBFC that Stoke have a better right back as first choice in Glen Johnson?

Or would that be ignored to suit his foot stamping agenda?

You keep saying foot stamping yet I have been positive about all 3 of our signings so far. What relevance does Johnson have to anything I have said? We are linked with Bardsley not Johnson. I think Bardsley is over the hill and crap at football, what is so difficult about accepting another opinion is different to your own.... I think he's rubbish, you think he's great, its as simple as that.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:45 pm

Where have I said he's great?

When you can find that comment let me know, but in the meantime I'll give you my actual point of view and not your made up one.

Personally I'd rather we signed someone else BUT he is an upgrade on Darikwa.
Lowton is a good solid full back for us and replacing him would be both harsh and difficult.

If Bardsley was to join it would be as 2nd choice but I'd have no qualms about him stepping into the first choice spot if Lowton was injured or banned.

Burt · Post by **Burt** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:55 pm

KRBFC wrote:You keep saying foot stamping yet I have been positive about all 3 of our signings so far. What relevance does Johnson have to anything I have said? We are linked with Bardsley not Johnson. I think Bardsley is over the hill and crap at football, what is so difficult about accepting another opinion is different to your own.... I think he's rubbish, you think he's great, its as simple as that.

"crap at football" "I think he's rubbish" So who is right, Mark Hughes ( 15 games last season ) or Sean Dyche or you.........cos they both believed/believe he can do a job in the Premier League?

So we have a player who has played 279 Premier League games but according to you he is crap at football and rubbish? Maybe if you tempered your responses your arguments might be accepted a little more.

Only abc spouts more nonsense

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:59 pm

sign him on. good back up

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:20 pm

Unfortunately ablueclaret seems to be correct in this case, though this forum would never accept that

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:39 pm

Braindead wrote:How many times have you seen him play then to form your opinion? Let me guess, none? You just already know?

And how many times have you seen him play to form your opinion? Let me guess, none? You just already know ?

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:47 pm

Only abc spouts more nonsense[/quote]

A moot point. Little less aggressive in his approach maybe? Finding more and more incredibly sweeping statements on this board, though.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:47 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Is anyone going to point out to KRBFC that Stoke have a better right back as first choice in Glen Johnson?

Or would that be ignored to suit his foot stamping agenda?

You keep saying foot stamping yet I have been positive about all 3 of our signings so far. What relevance does Johnson have to anything I have said? We are linked with Bardsley not Johnson. I think Bardsley is over the hill and crap at football, what is so difficult about accepting another opinion is different to your own.... I think he's rubbish, you think he's great, its as simple as that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:48 pm

Braindead wrote:How many times have you seen him play then to form your opinion? Let me guess, none? You just already know?

We had him on loan, not sure if you remember or not.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:52 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Where have I said he's great?

When you can find that comment let me know, but in the meantime I'll give you my actual point of view and not your made up one.

Personally I'd rather we signed someone else BUT he is an upgrade on Darikwa.
Lowton is a good solid full back for us and replacing him would be both harsh and difficult.

If Bardsley was to join it would be as 2nd choice but I'd have no qualms about him stepping into the first choice spot if Lowton was injured or banned.

So you've sat trying to argue with me when you would also prefer we signed someone else, hahahha incredible.

Burt · Post by **Burt** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:52 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Only abc spouts more nonsense

A moot point. Little less aggressive in his approach maybe? Finding more and more incredibly sweeping statements on this board, though.[/quote]

I was referring to the 'sabotage' quote.......to suggest Sean Dyche may be sabotaging our recruitment for whatever reason is absolutely ridiculous and only worthy of a troll. Not a moot point or a sweeping statement IMHO

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:55 pm

Burt wrote:"crap at football" "I think he's rubbish" So who is right, Mark Hughes ( 15 games last season ) or Sean Dyche or you.........cos they both believed/believe he can do a job in the Premier League?

So we have a player who has played 279 Premier League games but according to you he is crap at football and rubbish? Maybe if you tempered your responses your arguments might be accepted a little more.

Only abc spouts more nonsense

I watched that Star Sixes recently, six aside pitch. 20 minute games with rotating subs. Roberto Carlos couldn't last 5 minutes, all his experience and medals didnt help his body to perform. Why is that? Also you say Mark Hughes rates him, then why would he sell him for less than £2M?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:So you've sat trying to argue with me when you would also prefer we signed someone else, hahahha incredible.

I'd also accept it if he signed, you wouldn't.

I understand he was 2nd choice to Johnson, you decided he's over the hill and past it.

Can you see the differences in how we think?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:04 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I'd also accept it if he signed, you wouldn't.

I understand he was 2nd choice to Johnson, you decided he's over the hill and past it.

Can you see the differences in how we think?

Where did I say I wouldn't accept it if he signed? Id have no choice, ill support which ever 11 steps out onto the field. I didn't like the Michael Ricketts signing, I still loved it when he scored on his debut. I hated the fact we bought Juke, I still supported him and desperately wanted him to score.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:05 pm

We all wanted Juke to score, I don't think there's ever been a greater collective will for someone to score

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:You keep saying foot stamping yet I have been positive about all 3 of our signings so far. What relevance does Johnson have to anything I have said? We are linked with Bardsley not Johnson. I think Bardsley is over the hill and crap at football, what is so difficult about accepting another opinion is different to your own.... I think he's rubbish, you think he's great, its as simple as that.

Didn't you call Walters a fat clogger.Hate to see it when your not being positive.