Mighty Clarets versus Broken Glass XI

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:11 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Heatons injury may well be season defining...

and career defining for Pope - let's hope it is positive

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:11 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Heatons injury may well be season defining...

I'm thinking the same thing.

Longsidebovril · Post by **Longsidebovril** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:12 pm

Feels like a long half...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:13 pm

agree with Rick, we need to go 4-5-1, they are getting far too many crosses in to the box

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:14 pm

Need to do something before ht

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:15 pm

I think we're okay. Palace haven't actually threatened much. But we do need to create a little more - don't want us riding our luck too much. I'd be okay (more comfortable in fact) with 4-5-1 second half.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:16 pm

It's weird to see Pope and not Heaton!

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:16 pm

They are more physical than I imagined they would be - more Sam the De Boer I thin

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:17 pm

Brilliant work from Gudmundsson there. Really good effort to avoid the challenge and get a dangerous cross in.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:17 pm

It was mentioned last week that both sides win more matches with less of the ball.
It looks like we are letting them have it but it's working.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:17 pm

Pope saves. Well done lad. Good hands.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:17 pm

JBG playing well

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:18 pm

Defour with a nice little interception there.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:19 pm

If we go to 4-5-1 who goes off though. Wood or Vokes.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:19 pm

Palace corner right before HT.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:19 pm

FactualFrank wrote:If we go to 4-5-1 who goes off though. Wood or Vokes.

Vokes.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:19 pm

Just noticed that they have turned us round - so we play uphill in the 2nd half - suspect that might be Sammy Lee using a Sam tactic

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:20 pm

That was distinctly lacklustre

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:20 pm

HT. Phew. They haven't been too threatening aside from a 10-15 min period first half. Keepers not had too much to do. But, we're riding out luck a little and could change things up to take a little more control.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:22 pm

Nervy end to that half.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:22 pm

Chester Perry wrote:still learning and will take most of the season to develop the assurance required

We haven't got all season

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Sammy Lee looking more like Timothy Spall these days

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Very bad news for Tom. Pope has done well since coming on.

I think criticism of Tarks has been a little harsh. He has handled a couple of the situations with Benteke superbly.

Disappointed that CP haven't rolled over and died yet. Haven't they read the script? They've had a lot of the possession and look the more dangerous even without creating many clear-cut chances.

Hate to say it, but really relying on Ben in the middle to command things as Tarks and Pope are very inexperienced at this level.

Going to be a nervy 2nd 45.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:24 pm

From BBC:

Burnley have only lost one of the previous 20 Premier League games in which they've led at HT - But it was a 3-2 defeat to Palace in January 2015.

leightonjameslegend · Post by **leightonjameslegend** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Crying out to go back to 4-5-1. Arfield on for Vokes as Wood looks really dangerous. They will have to come out even more in the 2nd Half and could catch them on the break. JBG having a good game, Defour different level.

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Both sides look suspect defensively - us probably more so. Feel a change of formation is necessary, and hope Heaton's injury isn't too bad

Bonus is we're winning!

Need a big half from the players AND the fans, it's oh so quiet in the stands. If we're to continue making Turf Moor a fortress the players really need the vocal backing..

ClaretCanada · Post by **ClaretCanada** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:25 pm

8 Attempts Palace 3 by us

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:26 pm

Our back 4 need to learn from Fergies golden rule. The back 4 NEVER try to beat a man. Pass it or clog it. It does help if teammates are getting into space for you!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:28 pm

Thanks for the links lads , we are doing well

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:28 pm

JBG much better suited to 4-4-2 but Defour and to a lesser extent Brady are both wasted in this formation

Cork holding the midfield together and either need to find a way to get back on the front foot or get more bodies into midfield to try and get hold of the ball and control the game better

I reckon they'll be one more goal and it's 50/50 which way it will go despite Palace being well on top for last 15 mins of that half

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:31 pm

Last season we would have conceded on the stroke of half time.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:31 pm

IndigoLake wrote:From BBC:

Burnley have only lost one of the previous 20 Premier League games in which they've led at HT - But it was a 3-2 defeat to Palace in January 2015.

think that had more to with Marney

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:32 pm

One thing that worries me is that we've barely tested their keeper first half. Our only shot on target was the goal. While it's great to be clinical, it's not impressive to go almost a whole half without getting a shot on target. Must test him more!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:33 pm

I think the timing of how long Dyche waits to back to 4-5-1 will be key, here.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:33 pm

Players heading back out.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:33 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:JBG much better suited to 4-4-2 but Defour and to a lesser extent Brady are both wasted in this formation

Cork holding the midfield together and either need to find a way to get back on the front foot or get more bodies into midfield to try and get hold of the ball and control the game better

I reckon they'll be one more goal and it's 50/50 which way it will go despite Palace being well on top for last 15 mins of that half

You're on the wind again. Defour has been everywhere and has used it well.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:34 pm

Definitely need to go back to 4-5-1

its been pretty much all Palace for last 20 mins of that half!

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:34 pm

I'm another thinking a 5 man midfield second half.
They're getting far too much time and space there.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:35 pm

4-4-2 still. Trust in Dyche I guess!

ClaretCanada · Post by **ClaretCanada** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:35 pm

Curbishly and Sherwood on about Poor Crystal Palace what they need to do, what a biased bunch of knobs

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:35 pm

Benteke heads wide

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:35 pm

a win is key here - Palace have Saints then the 2 Manc clubs followed by Chelsea next

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:36 pm

ClaretCanada wrote:Curbishly and Sherwood on about Poor Crystal Palace what they need to do, what a biased bunch of knobs

Rather that than poor Burnley!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:36 pm

Is it just me or is Mee pushed very far forward at times? He looks out of position and rushing to get back on occasion.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:37 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:Definitely need to go back to 4-5-1

its been pretty much all Palace for last 20 mins of that half!

I think it's about how long Dyche waits. Waits too long and I can see Palace not just drawing, but winning.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:37 pm

we must change to 4-5-1, vokes off for me and probably Arfield on. We have no grip on a home game against a team that have struggled big time this season. We've played some cracking football this season in a 4-5-1

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:38 pm

Vokes looks knackered

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:38 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:we must change to 4-5-1, vokes off for me and probably Arfield on. We have no grip on a home game against a team that have struggled big time this season. We've played some cracking football this season in a 4-5-1

Agree completely. All Palace these opening mins of 2nd half.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:40 pm

Wet and windy Turf Moor.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:40 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Is it just me or is Mee pushed very far forward at times? He looks out of position and rushing to get back on occasion.

We've looked a bit bitty several times at the back, though they've all come up with a few great individual moments.
We're losing, mostly, the midfield battle.
Putting us under too much pressure at the back.