Shakespeare sacked at Leicester

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:I feel a big one coming.....

I suggest you go and sit on the loo, see if that helps.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:02 pm

KRBFC wrote:I believe we have good players capable of better than hoofball tosh and a horrible lack of creativity and fluidity. We just need a coach capable of finding a balance between attack and defence and Dyche simply hasn't at PL level Imo.

Let me ask you this question.. You are currently 7th in the premier league, so I can't believe you are expecting a better league placing under a different manager.

Are you saying you would settle for a lesser league placing, but with what you perceive to be better football?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:09 pm

Ooo that's a good question from Saxo.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:14 pm

KRBFC wrote:Its amazing how many people on here know what Dyche will do. "he wont leave" "he wouldn't take his staff" "he wouldn't fancy the Leicester job because they have sacked a few managers"

I hope he goes, his football is stinking.

Nobody "knows" what Dyche will do. We can guess due to his behaviour over the past 5 years.

As for the last part of your comment, the sooner you become a Barca fan the better for us all. Although, knowing you, you will start complaining when they only score 5 a game!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:28 pm

Even if they approached Burnley the board would not give permission for him to speak to them. I cannot see Dyche going against the wishes of the board.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:33 pm

Saxoman wrote:Let me ask you this question.. You are currently 7th in the premier league, so I can't believe you are expecting a better league placing under a different manager.

Are you saying you would settle for a lesser league placing, but with what you perceive to be better football?

We won't finish 7th under Dyche and even if we did you don't win anything for finishing 7th.
I would settle for PL football over Championship football if it meant we have to play hoofball but that simply isn't the case. There is nothing to suggest that a new manager couldn't get similar results with much better style of play. To answer your question I would take 8th under Jorge Jesus over 7th under Dyche.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:48 pm

Ah his current love for Portuguese managers shines through.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:50 pm

If dyche sees Leicester as the big club above Burnley, how small does he think Burnley are?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:51 pm

KRBFC wrote:We won't finish 7th under Dyche and even if we did you don't win anything for finishing 7th.
I would settle for PL football over Championship football if it meant we have to play hoofball but that simply isn't the case. There is nothing to suggest that a new manager couldn't get similar results with much better style of play. To answer your question I would take 8th under Jorge Jesus over 7th under Dyche.

I think you win a lot of money for finishing 7th,I could be wrong,tell me if I am will ya?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:57 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I think you win a lot of money for finishing 7th,I could be wrong,tell me if I am will ya?

Just under £2M per place I think.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:58 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I think you win a lot of money for finishing 7th,I could be wrong,tell me if I am will ya?

KRBFC would rather have less money with better football, it's that simple.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:Just under £2M per place I think.

So you do win something then?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:59 pm

It really is a bloody nightmare supporting Burnley. Too much stress for words. I didn't know that he just had a rolling contract. I thought that he had signed an extension, but obviously not.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:59 pm

Sidney1st wrote:KRBFC would rather have less money with better football, it's that simple.

Sadly it doesn't work like that though Sid does it

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:00 pm

I know that, but I'm not the one who's got a thing for Portuguese managers

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:01 pm

Come on guys get real he will go one day,trust the board,they will get it right and we move on,no one is bigger than the club

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:03 pm

Sidney1st wrote:KRBFC would rather have less money with better football, it's that simple.

£1.6M is nothing in comparison to what we receive you're just being stupid for the sake of it.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:05 pm

No I'm not.

You don't want Dyche here, which of us is the one being stupid?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Sidney1st wrote:No I'm not.

You don't want Dyche here, which of us is the one being stupid?

I don't like Dyches style of play, get over it.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:15 pm

I am over it, I just find it amusing that you want him gone.
You're not even willing to let him evolve as a manager, which he is doing.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:I don't like Dyches style of play, get over it.

So you didn't like our goal against Everton then?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:20 pm

Spijed wrote:So you didn't like our goal against Everton then?

Not enough passes

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:20 pm

Sidney1st wrote:No I'm not.

You don't want Dyche here, which of us is the one being stupid?

I think he's the agent for the Watford manager.... at least that's how it looks from the number times he brings him up. After saying that on this occasion, in a way I sort of agree with what he is saying (though not in the way he means it)... who can say we will be worse off in the long run. (I suspect unlike some others) I trust the Board to make the next appointment as effectively as they chose the last.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 pm

If we’d scored that goal at Everton but with a Portuguese manager in charge KRBFC would have caused a Kleenex shortgage in Burnley.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:34 pm

bfcjg wrote:Even if they approached Burnley the board would not give permission for him to speak to them. I cannot see Dyche going against the wishes of the board.

Really ?

I know that we have both a honourable board and manager who pride themselves on integrity but if Dyche wants to talk to Leicester then he will talk to Leicester.

When has the scenario you reference ever happened at any club ?

Cheshireclaret · Post by **Cheshireclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:42 pm

I'm pretty sure that in La Liga there is a rule that a manager cannot manage more than one club in La Liga in any given season. If only we had the same rule in The Premier League (I do find it odd there isn't).

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:45 pm

If he goes he goes life will go on at the Turf, there will obviously be some attraction for SD its closer to home so less travelling, probably more money etc etc but do you think the Leicester players will take to the SD way and a harder training regime or will they down tools again, it wasn't so long ago their fans were slating SD and our tactics how long will they give him. If he goes it will either make him or break him as a good manager personally I think if he goes there now he will be gone at the end of the season, no matter where they finish it won't be good enough but another good season or 2 with us and he will get the chance to move to far better club than Leicester.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:45 pm

Although this thread is not about that Everton goal I think people are over rating it. The actual goal move occurred after Wood could not do much with Ward's cross but fortunately was able to head it roughly towards Hendrick. Only once Hendrick passes to Arfield does the goal move begin - three passes!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:46 pm

Had a good laugh at this one on Foxestalk.........

Great manager who just needs to be at a club that will back him financially, something he’ll never get at Burnley which is why he’ll never fulfill his potential there.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:00 pm

So far as I can see, there's nothing concrete in this link at all, and given that Shakespeare's sacking took the entire media by surprise yesterday and didn't appear to have been long in the planning, I'd be astonished if any journalist really knew what Leicester's intentions were. All the articles look to me to be based on stating the obvious, perhaps encouraged by Dyche's agent (there's no real downside to Dyche of his name being linked, even if he's not that bothered about the job), and these things tend to fuel themselves on these occasions.

That said, irrespective of whether he gets offered and takes this job, its certainly more likely than not that Dyche will move on at some point in the next 18 months of so, so we might as well get used to the idea. It is hard to tell, but my suspicion from the various media links over the last few months is that Dyche is beginning to look to move on.

And whilst I hope he doesn't take this job, you can make an argument that this isn't an awful time for him to leave - there's plenty of time to get someone in well before the next transfer window, so planning need not be too badly disrupted, we've a good settled squad with no obvious agitators for a move, and we're in a good league position both to absorb the inevitable disruption and also to attract a good candidate.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:08 pm

Spijed wrote:So you didn't like our goal against Everton then?

Yeah it was a goal I wished we could see more of, unfortunately its just not in Dyches nature to let attackers attack.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:44 pm

Latest from Nicko:

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Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:48 pm

Spijed wrote:Latest from Nicko:

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That’s no good to me as I’m blocked from his tweets...

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:55 pm

Nice Commute

Dyche --Northampton
Woan --Birmingham

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:57 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:That’s no good to me as I’m blocked from his tweets...

He’s saying he thinks one of the decision makers is a fan of another manager who currently has a job.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:59 pm

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:59 pm

I haven't got a clue what the Nixon tweet means, but from what I've heard & seen over recent seasons re SD, I would suggest that he uses these thingsjob opportunities as a lever to obtain better remuneration packages from the Burnley board.
There have been quite a number of occasions where SD has been rumoured to be leaving but never a murmur about anyone coming in if he did leave.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:02 pm

Nonayforever wrote:I haven't got a clue what the Nixon tweet means, but from what I've heard & seen over recent seasons re SD, I would suggest that he uses these thingsjob opportunities as a lever to obtain better remuneration packages from the Burnley board.
There have been quite a number of occasions where SD has been rumoured to be leaving but never a murmur about anyone coming in if he did leave.

He strikes me as an astute person so I’m sure he does.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:03 pm

Nonayforever wrote:I haven't got a clue what the Nixon tweet means, but from what I've heard & seen over recent seasons re SD, I would suggest that he uses these thingsjob opportunities as a lever to obtain better remuneration packages from the Burnley board.
There have been quite a number of occasions where SD has been rumoured to be leaving but never a murmur about anyone coming in if he did leave.

Nothing wrong with that.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:08 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:That’s no good to me as I’m blocked from his tweets...

What did you say to upset him?

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:10 pm

KRBFC..I don't really know why I am bothering to reply to your ridiculous posts, all the moreso because you are someone who has posted stuff that is genuinely racist in the past (and not in a relatively mild non-PC Eni Aluko way either, but truly racist)but can you not see the very obvious fact that if we tried to take on the vast majority of Premier League teams by playing flowing, open football then we would be regularly pasted. Dyche has worked a miracle as our manager...5 years of virtually continuous progress and positive development which is continuing as we gradually upgrade our squad. I think the reason it's so downright painful to read your posts is that they are just patently evidence of someone in their own deluded world who knows not the first thing about managing a football team criticising someone who does it absolutely brilliantly in the real world, with all it's relative constraints.
Damn....I've bitten.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:10 pm

I believe the owners at Leicester will explore ALL options.
That will include reading football messageboards and once they have done that the drama will be over.

They will simply ignore Sean Dyche and interview three Portugese fellas and pick one from there.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:13 pm

Nixon doesn't answer the obvious question of who sacked Shakespeare and is therefore the person who hires the next manager.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:13 pm

Spijed wrote:What did you say to upset him?

Something to do with multi-faceted Scottish managers... basically I offended his best mate

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:16 pm

Let's just all hope that all of the speculation of Dyche moving to Leicester is "Much ado about Nothing".

Heaton's Gloves · Post by **Heaton's Gloves** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:19 pm

Whatever happens, Sean Dyche needs to put this to bed before we take to the pitch at the Etihad. If he doesn't and we get spanked badly, I feel it will be the beginning of the end for him, and possibly us as a premier league outfit. SD needs to think long and hard about this. Leicester is a poison chalice. He needs to remember how their disgraceful players got Ranieri the sack. It would take time to put his stamp on the team. If it doesn't bear fruit quickly, the foreign owners will swing the axe again. I realise he won't be Burnley manager for too much longer, but he has unfinished business here, and could move to a bigger and better team than the foxes. Hopefully at the beginning of a season and not leaving us in limbo. I can feel a little de ja vu coming on.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:25 pm

Heaton's Gloves wrote:Whatever happens, Sean Dyche needs to put this to bed before we take to the pitch at the Etihad. If he doesn't and we get spanked badly, I feel it will be the beginning of the end for him, and possibly us as a premier league outfit. SD needs to think long and hard about this. Leicester is a poison chalice. He needs to remember how their disgraceful players got Ranieri the sack. It would take time to put his stamp on the team. If it doesn't bear fruit quickly, the foreign owners will swing the axe again. I realise he won't be Burnley manager for too much longer, but he has unfinished business here, and could move to a bigger and better team than the foxes. Hopefully at the beginning of a season and not leaving us in limbo. I can feel a little de ja vu coming on.

What?? If we get spanked at City it’s the beginning of the end?? What have you been smoking??

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:27 pm

Heaton's Gloves wrote:Whatever happens, Sean Dyche needs to put this to bed before we take to the pitch at the Etihad. If he doesn't and we get spanked badly, I feel it will be the beginning of the end for him, and possibly us as a premier league outfit. SD needs to think long and hard about this. Leicester is a poison chalice. He needs to remember how their disgraceful players got Ranieri the sack. It would take time to put his stamp on the team. If it doesn't bear fruit quickly, the foreign owners will swing the axe again. I realise he won't be Burnley manager for too much longer, but he has unfinished business here, and could move to a bigger and better team than the foxes. Hopefully at the beginning of a season and not leaving us in limbo. I can feel a little de ja vu coming on.

So a heavy defeat to Man City (top of the table free scoring Man City) and Dyche not commenting on press speculation (which it only is at the moment) and we will be relegated?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:36 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Let's just all hope that all of the speculation of Dyche moving to Leicester is "Much ado about Nothing".

As I understand it, Leicester are after bringing in Fabio Pecchia and Rolando Maran as a "dream team" management duo. (If it helps, their current clubs are Hellas and Chievo.

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Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:47 pm

Good call dsr.

Leicester's foreign owners appointed a foreign manager who won the title,
Pearson & Shakespeare are, I'm sure, viewed as to laddish or old school for their progressive owners.

They want international recognition, SD unfortunately doesn't offer that avenue to them.