James McLean

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:07 pm

They don't like him in Huddersfield lol

http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-13860865

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:18 pm

Politics and sport should never mix but unfortunately they do . If he's good enough , get him in . Plus i'd like us do go for Okazaki whos not getting much game time at Leicester ( that would stir a few up on here if his grandfather was in WW11 !! ) .

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:25 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:They don't like him in Huddersfield lol

http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-13860865

If we played with him and Bardsley on the right we would be giving away record numbers of free kicks.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:33 pm

All I can say is that his wife must be partially sighted.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:36 pm

We do have terrible problems identifying young talent but it is at least part of the equation.
One has to accept that Only a proportion will prosper, at present none come through our youth system.
In some ways it has to be viewed as much as a fall back solution if we get relegated as much as our future in this League.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:02 pm

I’m hoping that this is fake news(ahem). Just look at all the conflict and trouble he’s caused on this forum before actually being signed.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:04 pm

ablueclaret wrote:We do have terrible problems identifying young talent but it is at least part of the equation.
One has to accept that Only a proportion will prosper, at present none come through our youth system.
In some ways it has to be viewed as much as a fall back solution if we get relegated as much as our future in this League.

What a load of guff that is.

claret3561 · Post by **claret3561** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:31 pm

Please please please let this not be true, shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a burnley shirt, disrespectful pr***

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:33 pm

Who's he disrespecting?

claret3561 · Post by **claret3561** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:37 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Who's he disrespecting?

He's disrespecting the many who gave their lives so you can make glib comments like that

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:42 pm

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/n ... 92295.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; cant be that much of a bad person he always tries to help complete strangers out

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:43 pm

claret3561 wrote:He's disrespecting the many who gave their lives so you can make glib comments like that

Or, y'know choose whether to wear a poppy? or do we only get to choose those things that you feel are optional?

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:47 pm

I'd rather we forked out £8m+ on a Coutinho type of player than £15m on a McLean type player.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:47 pm

I am heartily sick of the same garbage every time his name is mentioned. I wear a poppy but given his own INDIVIDUAL circumstances based on where he grew up, i fully respect and understand his decision not to wear one.
All i actually care about is will he be an improvement on Scott Arfield? The answer is clearly yes so get him on board.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:49 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:I'd rather we forked out £8m+ on a Coutinho type of player than £15m on a McLean type player.

Know any?

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:54 pm

Isn't that what we have our wide network of scouts for?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:57 pm

claret3561 wrote:He's disrespecting the many who gave their lives so you can make glib comments like that

He's honouring the memory of unarmed civilians gunned down by British soldiers.

If you can wrap your head around it you'd understand his point of view.
He's Irish, not British and there's no legal obligation for him to wear a poppy.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:58 pm

I always thought buying poppies was optional or do they now threaten you outside Tesco until you buy one.

I'm sure he joins in with the minute's silence on the 11th November - remember even FIFA/UEFA thought it was political to wear poppies on shirts which is why they were going to fine Wales, Scotland and England - before they changed their mind.-

Surely poppies are a sign that you've given money to The Royal British Legion - You can still show respect on Armistice Day without supporting a charity that helps injured ex service men.

What if you want to support other charities that support ex servicemen?

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:04 pm

Choosing whether or not to wear a poppy is one thing but turning your back on the National Anthem is another, I disagreed with George Bush’s actions but I stood up the US anthem out of respect

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:04 pm

Transforming the Remembrance symbol into a “product”, an “iconic brand”, may be a way of ensuring that the Legion gets more money but it also places the Poppy firmly in the world of the corporate logo, like the Nike Swoosh, or Coca-Cola. And at least with Coca-Cola you are not harangued for choosing not to consume its iconic brand, unlike the Legion’s increasingly coercive ‘For their sake, wear a poppy’, ‘For his family’s sake, wear a poppy’, ‘Something Missing?’ advertising campaigns launched in recent years.

The above is an excerpt from the website below.

http://vfpuk.org/2015/my-name-is-legion/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Many concerned about The Royal British Legion's actions in recent years.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:06 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Transforming the Remembrance symbol into a “product”, an “iconic brand”, may be a way of ensuring that the Legion gets more money but it also places the Poppy firmly in the world of the corporate logo, like the Nike Swoosh, or Coca-Cola. And at least with Coca-Cola you are not harangued for choosing not to consume its iconic brand, unlike the Legion’s increasingly coercive ‘For their sake, wear a poppy’, ‘For his family’s sake, wear a poppy’, ‘Something Missing?’ advertising campaigns launched in recent years.

The above is an excerpt from the website below.

http://vfpuk.org/2015/my-name-is-legion/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Many concerned about The Royal British Legion's actions in recent years.

Aye, some of the ostentatiously "bling" poppies and related products didn't sit right with me somehow.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:18 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Aye, some of the ostentatiously "bling" poppies and related products didn't sit right with me somehow.

If you want a more traditional poppy Scotland is the place - not produced by The Royal British Legion but by Poppyscotland.

They don't seem to have the links with arms dealers that The RBL seems to.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:31 pm

karatekid wrote:Does mesut ozil wear a poppy? What about sergio aguero? It seems to me that McLean is a bit of a stirrer and could upset the togetherness that SD has brought to the dressing room.

Did Sergio Aguero's innocent ancestors get slaughtered by British soldiers?

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:39 pm

His international performance is way above his PL level.
Plays with his heart. As he has no known love for Burnley he's a no for me, poppy or not.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:39 pm

If his dad was on the Belgrano...possibly.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:18 pm

Just exactly where did the OP ‘hear that we are in talks about signing him’? I can’t find anything about it anywhere else.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:23 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Just exactly where did the OP ‘hear that we are in talks about signing him’? I can’t find anything about it anywhere else.

Same place he farts from

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:23 am

He farts out of his ears ?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:34 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:They don't like him in Huddersfield lol

http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-13860865

That challenge sums up the reason I don't want us to sign him

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:44 am

Vegas Claret wrote:That challenge sums up the reason I don't want us to sign him

That's a fair comment to be.. well.. fair!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:27 am

Jamesy would give his all and would fit into the side very well .
Just need to give him two weeks off at the start of November to stop the complaints on here .
On the subject of Poppies , I have never bought or wore one and never will and yet I still class myself as a Burnley Fan , funny old world .

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:37 am

I'd have him here no problem. His stand on his beliefs should have nothing to do with anything. Like I said in another post the majority of posters on here for some bizarre reason think it's ok to leave a game when we are getting beat. I find that belief unbelievable. I believe buying a poppy is the absolute bare minimum anyone should do to support veterans. However, You do not deserve a round of applause for doing it, nor to be booed for failing to wear one.

WazzaClaret · Post by **WazzaClaret** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:48 am

Dy1geo wrote:Choosing whether or not to wear a poppy is one thing but turning your back on the National Anthem is another, I disagreed with George Bush’s actions but I stood up the US anthem out of respect

I read that as George Boyd and it really confused me for a few seconds thinking what he had against the yanks and when he'd even of had to face their anthem

it took me 3 reads to finally see Bush, i blame it on the time haha.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:25 am

pushpinpussy wrote: I believe buying a poppy is the absolute bare minimum anyone should do to support veterans.

I don't need to do anything to support veterans. They get paid out of my taxes as it is, and if I was to wear a poppy it would be to commemorate the poor serfs who lined up to be killed on a country's orders in WW1, or the brave blokes who defeated the nazis in WW2.

I don't give a flying about anyone signing up otherwise. They get paid for it, why should I pay anything else?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:27 am

I think that I’ve found the solution to the problem. If they’re keen to offload a player but,as Pardew says, he wants to keep McClean, he can let us have Jay Rodriguez instead. That way all concerned will be content.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:28 am

Jay might not be

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:33 am

I’m sure that he will. He doesn’t want to play in the Championship next year.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:59 am

Have any of you seen the episode of Black Mirror with the bees and #DeathTo?

Reminds me of that. McClean wouldn't stand a chance.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:And there was me thinking people fought to give us the freedom to be able to make our own decisions, one of which is to choose whether or not to wear a poppy. I find it sad that anyone still won't approve of a player who exercises his right to make such a decision.

I didn't say that he should be forced to wear one. Just my own free opinion that I wouldn't be happy. His choice not to wear one, my choice not to approve.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:15 pm

But you wouldn't not sign someone based on that though?

It must be just a coincidence that people think the most Sean Dyche type player of all time wouldn't fit into a Sean Dyche team then.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:16 pm

I'm sick to death of reading about poppies.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:23 pm

I was discussing us possibly signing James McLean with a mate who supports another team and he made the point that if Dyche signed him it would enforce the “Stereotype” of him only signing certain types of players to play a certain type of way and it would hold him back from getting a bigger job, to which I said great it would mean Dyche manages us for longer.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:26 pm

Quicknick wrote:I'm sick to death of reading about poppies.

Me too.
If you want to talk poppies, go here:

http://Www.ketteringtownfc.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:27 pm

Has he signed yet?

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:That challenge sums up the reason I don't want us to sign him

Stupidity at its stupidest

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:But you wouldn't not sign someone based on that though?

It must be just a coincidence that people think the most Sean Dyche type player of all time wouldn't fit into a Sean Dyche team then.

My likely ability to sign the right players even excludes me from managing a fantasy football team. I trust SD to make what decision he wishes and I will be happier with some signings more than others. I haven't disagreed with any of his signings yet but I reserve the right to do so in the future if I wish. I hope that's ok.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:07 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I don't need to do anything to support veterans. They get paid out of my taxes as it is, and if I was to wear a poppy it would be to commemorate the poor serfs who lined up to be killed on a country's orders in WW1, or the brave blokes who defeated the nazis in WW2.

I don't give a flying about anyone signing up otherwise. They get paid for it, why should I pay anything else?

How big a wage do you earn to pay for all the veterans out of your taxes?

Come on admit it, you haven't even paid enough back to cover your education?

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:15 pm

I hope we sign him. Perfect fit.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:22 pm

Don't rate the guy at all, as a footballer or a person.
His stats don't suggest a player that will be an improvement on what we already have. No thanks.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:30 pm

Havevt we enough bang average Irish players ? Long? Hendrick ? Walters? Ward? To need yet another hard working low end product guy?