Liverpool v Real Madrid

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat May 26, 2018 11:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Yeah - I’m sure that a professional footballer earning £25,000+ per week has just savaged his career to make a few quid on a bet.
Like it's never been done, not just in football but any career, rather naive view on life, especially when I was only really joking

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 26, 2018 11:11 pm

There was nothing in your post to suggest you were joking. I don’t have a naive view on life, of course people have match-fixed in the past. But to suggest a 24 year old player, earning well in excess of £1m per year would practically destroy his career in hideously embarrassing fashion, on the biggest club stage in the world whilst forfeiting the chance to become a legend at his club and lift the most coveted trophy in club football, for any realistic sum of money, is stupid.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat May 26, 2018 11:14 pm

How old was Bruce Grobbelaar when he was doing it?

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat May 26, 2018 11:15 pm

Rileybobs wrote:There was nothing in your post to suggest you were joking. I don’t have a naive view on life, of course people have match-fixed in the past. But to suggest a 24 year old player, earning well in excess of £1m per year would practically destroy his career in hideously embarrassing fashion, on the biggest club stage in the world whilst forfeiting the chance to become a legend at his club and lift the most coveted trophy in club football, for any realistic sum of money, is stupid.
Bloody hell pal, pour yourself a drink and chill, are you his agent or something

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by BennyD » Sat May 26, 2018 11:33 pm

I thoroughly enjoyed the game at my local pub as I was a total neutral. The first goal was a shocker, the second should have been the launch pad for a Liverpool surge, the third was an absolute worldy and the fourth was just rubbing it in. The whole thing was held in good humour by all the regulars apart from an aggressive scouser. However, the Liverpool fan on crutches took exception to a gentle bit of banter between about 3/4 spectators, including me, and out of the blue he smashed me in the face with the end of his crutch, splitting my lip. I flew at him but was dragged off him by 3 regulars. F*cking bin dippers take it far too seriously but if I see him again, I’ll be having words about his attitude to towards losing. Now I’m soooo glad they got tubbed. F*cking w4nkers.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Spiral » Sat May 26, 2018 11:45 pm

Wait, you lost a fight with a man on crutches?

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Dyched » Sun May 27, 2018 12:04 am

tim_noone wrote:Klopp to be fair should have walked straight across to the keeper ... And console him at the final whistle.
My thoughts too. We all make mistakes. But not 1 of his teammates nor manager consoled him. That speaks volumes to me.
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Spiral » Sun May 27, 2018 12:24 am

It speaks that they know where their problems lie. Good on the rest of them for not over-indulging an utterly useless footballer. I'd have wanted to deck him for that performance were he my team mate.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by scouseclaret » Sun May 27, 2018 12:41 am

Rileybobs wrote:There was nothing in your post to suggest you were joking. I don’t have a naive view on life, of course people have match-fixed in the past. But to suggest a 24 year old player, earning well in excess of £1m per year would practically destroy his career in hideously embarrassing fashion, on the biggest club stage in the world whilst forfeiting the chance to become a legend at his club and lift the most coveted trophy in club football, for any realistic sum of money, is stupid.
Ok, the first and third are obvious howlers, but what I thought was really strange was how Karius dived for the second but didn’t bother to stretch his arms to try and save it?

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun May 27, 2018 1:01 am

Just seen the match.

Really nasty elbow by Ramos on Karius in 49th, but cannot be an excuse. The stats always suggested that a howler would cost them (as it will England next month).

This is one of those occasions when stats do not lie. A save percentage over 2 years around 65% compared to Tom and Nick on around 75%. Mignolet is as bad. Amazing we have 2 better keepers than any of theirs.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by tim_noone » Sun May 27, 2018 1:23 am

Spiral wrote:It speaks that they know where their problems lie. Good on the rest of them for not over-indulging an utterly useless footballer. I'd have wanted to deck him for that performance were he my team mate.
I'm not big on mard arse footballers or the arm round the shoulder sketch and there were a lot on show last night...but klopp showed a lack of class with the goalkeeper.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun May 27, 2018 1:26 am

in the aftermath, i genuinely feel for the keeper, klopp did console him too.
my memory will be bale, strange to imagine he will leave due to feeling left out, and there seems no one to blame, zidane has won it again, and yet bale is obviously brilliant. But madrid fans have had success yet again. a unique club in world football.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by tim_noone » Sun May 27, 2018 1:29 am

scouseclaret wrote:Ok, the first and third are obvious howlers, but what I thought was really strange was how Karius dived for the second but didn’t bother to stretch his arms to try and save it?
Maybe his confidence was shot....strange indeed was my view tbh.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun May 27, 2018 5:25 am

scouseclaret wrote:Ok, the first and third are obvious howlers, but what I thought was really strange was how Karius dived for the second but didn’t bother to stretch his arms to try and save it?
Because he was nowhere near it and realised that mid dive.

Keepers do it a lot.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Top Claret » Sun May 27, 2018 7:05 am

Poor match. Madrid deserved it hands down, Liverpool were dreadful.
Liverpool have spent a fortune and they have a clown in the goal, never seen him before, never heard of him before and I don't think I ever will, after that display.

Bloody awful if that's the best they can offer with their massive wage bill and financial resources.
Watched the game in the boozer and heard little of the punditry except for one clown saying that Liverpool will have to invest, ffs they have just splashed 70 million on a centre half, you muppet
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by scouseclaret » Sun May 27, 2018 8:08 am

That’s very harsh on Liverpool. They were all over Madrid until Salah went off - you could see how the momentum of the game shifted from that point.

That said, Klopp has been playing with fire with his goalkeepers for as long as he’s been there and really should have sorted it by now.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by BennyD » Sun May 27, 2018 11:56 am

Spiral wrote:Wait, you lost a fight with a man on crutches?
Not really; it wasnt a fight, it was an unprovoked assault causing actual bodily harm.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun May 27, 2018 12:27 pm

BennyD wrote:Not really; it wasnt a fight, it was an unprovoked assault causing actual bodily harm.

Did you try and steal his last bit of sugar?

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by jrgbfc » Sun May 27, 2018 12:29 pm

Think Mr Klopp deserves as much blame as Karius. It's been painfully obvious to everyone that he isn't good enough but Klopp has been too stubborn to accept it well last night it cost them big time.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by BennyD » Sun May 27, 2018 12:33 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Did you try and steal his last bit of sugar?
No. Real Madrid had already done that.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by ClaretDiver » Sun May 27, 2018 12:37 pm

I see the 'salt of the earth' supporters are showing their true colours by issuing death threads to Karius!

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun May 27, 2018 12:39 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:I see the 'salt of the earth' supporters are showing their true colours by issuing death threads to Karius!
scumbags gonna scumbag

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by DCWat » Sun May 27, 2018 1:31 pm

Ramos should receive a lengthy ban for that challenge. UEFA shouldnt be seen to be taking no action against a player who obviously and deliberately intended to seriously injure a fellow player.
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by ClaretEngineer » Sun May 27, 2018 1:54 pm

I’m glad Liverpool lost. We wouldn’t have heard the end of it if they had.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by superdimitri » Sun May 27, 2018 4:36 pm

Feel for Karius, I think he will come back stronger after that defeat and I hope he gets the chance too, you only need to look at Hart to see what can happen when your confidence is shot.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Diesel » Sun May 27, 2018 4:54 pm

Man City will win the Champions League next year.

Not a lot to beat at present.

Lump on, does anyone have the latest odds? Can't be arsed to look them up.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Spijed » Sun May 27, 2018 4:56 pm

DCWat wrote:Ramos should receive a lengthy ban for that challenge. UEFA shouldnt be seen to be taking no action against a player who obviously and deliberately intended to seriously injure a fellow player.
Sadly, for some players such as Ramos, winning is more important than anything else, including serious injuries to others.

As long as he got a winners medal I doubt he'll even care whether Mo Salah had a dislocated shoulder or not.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Diesel » Sun May 27, 2018 5:00 pm

Spijed wrote:Sadly, for some players such as Ramos, winning is more important than anything else, including serious injuries to others.

As long as he got a winners medal I doubt he'll even care whether Mo Salah had a dislocated shoulder or not.
I sort of don't mind his rough house tactics, hell that's how I used to play and I cheered louder than anyone when Kevin Ball did David Dunn, it's his rolling around, pretending b0llocks that gets me.

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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid

Post by Tall Paul » Sun May 27, 2018 5:53 pm

Diesel wrote:Man City will win the Champions League next year.

Not a lot to beat at present.

Lump on, does anyone have the latest odds? Can't be arsed to look them up.
I have them but I can't be arsed posting them for you.
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