David Davis resigns

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:10 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Keir Starmer said Labour's official line was to vote AGAINST the Chequers agreed bargaining stance.

I'm not blaming Labour. I'm saying the whole rotton lot of them are conniving to stop brexit.

The whole farce of the last 2 years has been nothing, absolutely nothing, more than a choreographed deception. A deception to give the impression to the gullible public that there are pro Leave members of the cabinet fighting a principled and noble fight on behalf of the 17,400,000 who voted for a clean brexit and a sovereign and independent United kingdom. They have been shown to be what they are. Duplicitous co-conspirators in this Machiavellian plot to usurp the Will of The people and thwart democracy. Gove, Johnson and the whole rotton lot of them are no more for leaving the EU than Clegg or Starmer. Remember he, Boris, wrote TWO versions of his declaration as to which side of the EU debate he would support. There is only one party and one true patriot, that the establishment has tried demonize, for decades, that stands for and believes in a true clean brexit. That's UKIP and Nigel Farage. NEVER HAVE SO FEW, BETRAYED SO MANY

Is this the same Farage who was elected to the European Parliament hardly attended and is happy to take a huge pension ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:19 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I think he gets a brownie point from me as well for actually resigning, but loses it again straight away as he actually didn't do anything.

He had probably the most important job in the cabinet over the last two years, and did the square root of f**k all with it.

He wanted a no deal Brexit. What was he ever going to do?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:21 pm

joey13 wrote:Is this the same Farage who was elected to the European Parliament hardly attended and is happy to take a huge pension ?

Yes that's bob on!

The same Farage that was probably making more dosh in finance before he entered politics. The same Farage that has worked tirelessly from inside the EU and effectively campaigned to make himself unemployed by getting the UK out of the failed, undemocratic, German dominated experiment. Yes that one.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:21 pm

He was given the job of negotiating a deal that gave us a better deal than the one we had now.

Would have been the "easiest deal ever" according to one D.Davis.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:23 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Yes that's bob on!

The same Farage that was probably making more dosh in finance before he entered politics. ...

lol. So wait. Is he a man of the people, or just another establishment elite?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:25 pm

Ringo, Farage is from even further away than I am.

How can he know what ails you?

How dare he interfere?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:36 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:lol. So wait. Is he a man of the people, or just another establishment elite?

Being wealthy and able to relate to the working classes are not mutually exclusive.

Look at it this way.

On the flip side, you can be totally skint. Through never leaving the bunker, to secure gainful employment, and totally unable to relate to others, in a reasonable and coherent way without proving you are a complete and utter idiotic clown.

You prove this on an almost minute by minute basis.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:37 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Ringo, Farage is from even further away than I am.

How can he know what ails you?

How dare he interfere?

See the above post for a brief explanation.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:39 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Being wealthy and able to relate to the working classes are not mutually exclusive.

Look at it this way.

On the flip side, you can be totally skint. Through never leaving the bunker, to secure gainful employment, and totally unable to relate to others, in a reasonable and coherent way without proving you are a complete and utter idiotic clown.

You prove this on an almost minute by minute basis.

It's kinda weird how you lot seem to enjoy speculating about my private life.

What has Farage ever done that makes you think he has your best interests at heart? Why do you trust his intentions more than the intentions of any other politician?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:40 pm

So you now make things up about other posters to justify your position?

Go home Ringo, you are drunk

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:41 pm

I always though ringo was a bloke but it turns out she's called Melanie

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SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:43 pm

Bring the whole party down for me then install real conservatives which this lot certainly arnt ..

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:43 pm

Murger wrote:DD comes across as a wacky grandad, which isn't always a good thing. But at least he's stuck by his principles and resigned. He gets a brownie point off me for that.

Can we please dispense with the David Davis is a man of honour ********? He spent much of the last 20 years campaigning to leave the EU, then had 2 years in the hotseat with free reign to deliver exactly that and he did absolutely nothing. He had no viable plan. He did no discernible work. He clearly didn't understand the fundamentals of what he was dealing with. He spent most of his time lying to the public and lying to Parliament to cover up for the fact that he'd done nothing. He threatened to resign on multiple occasions and then didn't do through with it.

He is many things but a man of principle is not one of them. The only reason he has resigned now is because he knows the winds of change are blowing and he is running for cover before the shite he has pumped out over the last 3 years begins to head back in his direction and sticks to him. He is a charlatan, a chancer and a coward, nothing more.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:47 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:I always though ringo was a bloke but it turns out she's called Melanie

https://twitter.com/MelanieLatest/statu ... 39776?s=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Melanie Phillips is hilarious, a complete fruitcake. Let's preserve democracy by completely bypassing it. Mental even by her standards.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:48 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Bring the whole party down for me then install real conservatives which this lot certainly arnt ..

Ah yes. Not conservative enough. More from-across-the-pond talk.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:50 pm

Bacchus wrote:Melanie Phillips is hilarious, a complete fruitcake. Let's preserve democracy by completely bypassing it. Mental even by her standards.

See also:
Let's Preserve Freedom by Ending It: A fruitloops guide to fighting terrorism.

These idiots have all the same ideas. None of which connect with our values.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:54 pm

What is it with you turtles and ponds ?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:08 pm

Bacchus wrote:Can we please dispense with the David Davis is a man of honour ********? He spent much of the last 20 years campaigning to leave the EU, then had 2 years in the hotseat with free reign to deliver exactly that and he did absolutely nothing. He had no viable plan. He did no discernible work. He clearly didn't understand the fundamentals of what he was dealing with. He spent most of his time lying to the public and lying to Parliament to cover up for the fact that he'd done nothing. He threatened to resign on multiple occasions and then didn't do through with it.

He is many things but a man of principle is not one of them. The only reason he has resigned now is because he knows the winds of change are blowing and he is running for cover before the shite he has pumped out over the last 3 years begins to head back in his direction and sticks to him. He is a charlatan, a chancer and a coward, nothing more.

Free rein? You don't think May had any say in what he did?

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:10 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Bring the whole party down for me then install real conservatives which this lot certainly arnt ..

These people are real conservatives. They are a shower of utter b@stards just like the conservatives of 30 years ago. The only things that separate them from their predecessors is their complete lack of talent and their lack of basic competence.

I agree with you that this should bring the party down, though. This entire fiasco of their own making should be enough to kill the conservative party off for good. But it probably won't be.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:16 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:So you now make things up about other posters to justify your position?

Go home Ringo, you are drunk

Now you're making things up! The irony!

If I was, at least I'd be sober and still right in the morning.

Where as, no matter how many times you wake up, your always going to be wrong.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:25 pm

Sounds like David Davis wasn't too highly rated by his peers (although his struggles with Brexit don't really make this a surprise) One of his fellow ministers remarked, "it's just a personal outburst", adding: "He is not exactly the cleverest, he has always struggled to muscle into any of the complicated arguments."

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:30 pm

Where as, no matter how many times you wake up, your always going to be wrong.

Er, yeah

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:32 pm

ksrclaret wrote:That sounds a lot like 'project fear' to me Ringo.

Who are these millions of people? Show me evidence that millions of people will no longer vote and I will stop laughing at you.

If only there was an alternative euro-sceptic party to vote for,surely UKIP should be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of a General Election,if another election is held soon it's by no means certain brexit will be the main campaign issue,the economy,NHS,education,transport,housing and crucially taxation are more likely to focus on voter's minds when they enter the polling booths.

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:35 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Even taking that you are right that it's impossible (i disagree, obviously)

Do you not find it even slightly worrying that we are bound to an organisation that has control over our money, laws and border (everything that makes a country a country..... It's not good to be so helplessly bound to a foreign power.

It's not bothered the Scottish and Welsh!

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:38 pm

No big fan of Davis, but he’s had his hands tied lately, not supported, marginalised, and he really could not back the Chequers thing, he did not believe in it... how could he argue for it with the Europeans?

BRINO....Brexit In Name Only..

Where is Boris..? - no sign of him.. no noise from him..

Teresa will be worried what he’s up to.

- DD’s resignation though has put the lumpen thug in a tricky position.. what will he do next?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:41 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:No big fan of Davis, but he’s had his hands tied lately, not supported, marginalised, and he really could not back the Chequers thing, he did not believe in it... how could he argue for it with the Europeans?

BRINO....Brexit In Name Only..

Where is Boris..? - no sign of him.. no noise from him..

Teresa will be worried what he’s up to.

- DD’s resignation though has put the lumpen thug in a tricky position.. what will he do next?

Whatever’s best for Boris.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:44 pm

dsr wrote:Free rein? You don't think May had any say in what he did?

Of course. But she spent a good 12 months creating space for him to do his job by spouting endless waffle like "Brexit means Brexit" or "Red White and Blue Brexit" or "No deal is better than a bad deal" during which time Davis achieved what, exactly? He spent most of it lying about detailed sectoral impact assessments. I have no time for May, but any claim that Davis would have been effective if it weren't for her obstructing his work are laughable.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:53 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:No big fan of Davis, but he’s had his hands tied lately, not supported, marginalised, and he really could not back the Chequers thing, he did not believe in it... how could he argue for it with the Europeans?

BRINO....Brexit In Name Only..

Where is Boris..? - no sign of him.. no noise from him..

Teresa will be worried what he’s up to.

- DD’s resignation though has put the lumpen thug in a tricky position.. what will he do next?

Most of the political pundits are suggesting he’s about to resign.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:01 pm

Boris has gone ..!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:03 pm

**** me

Boris has gone as well

GE an absolute certainty now I reckon.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:06 pm

Just need Teresa to chuck in the towel now and we’ve got a fairly special hat trick..

She is in massive trouble now... leadership challenge just round the corner.

- expect that blonde lump to be there or thereabouts.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:07 pm

May has to go, new Brexiteer Tory leader, then a GE.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:13 pm

Brexit still going well.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:14 pm

Claretpants · Post by **Claretpants** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:18 pm

Boris gone now

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:20 pm

Good thing the Tories are in power and we didn't get the chaos of a Corbyn led Labour government eh!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:23 pm

Bring out ‘yer dead.

Bring out ‘yer dead.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:23 pm

News breaking that the other buffoon Boris Johnson has quit alongside David Davis.

One of the worst Foreign Secretaries in living memory, given the job by Theresa May to try and keep him onside.

Could have done the decent thing and got the woman released from the Iranian prison before jumping ship.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:26 pm

There is hope among all this madness,1966 also saw an early election,and we all know what happened that year

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:28 pm

Weakest leader and worst Government we have had since the days of John Major

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:30 pm

May due in the House of Commons very very shortly.

Gove now standing in the wrong place after his comments on Sunday morning.

If there were to be a leadership contest, not sure we can all afford the 3 months that will take... a shambles of some proportions.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:32 pm

Can't be any weaker than that of David Cameron surely?

Called the referendum rather than face down the eurosceptic wing of his own party and, when the result went against him, decided to jump ship and rake in the millions on the after dinner speeches circuit.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:34 pm

I'd love to see Ringo's reaction if all this leads to Sajid Javid running the country

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:36 pm

This is what happens when you ask politicians to do things they are not good at, such as running a country and making decisions for the good of the people.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:36 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Can't be any weaker than that of David Cameron surely?

Called the referendum rather than face down the eurosceptic wing of his own party and, when the result went against him, decided to jump ship and rake in the millions on the after dinner speeches circuit.

Well I can't remember the last time that we had even a half decent Tory Government

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:38 pm

Rumours Liam Fox might be next to go.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:40 pm

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hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:45 pm

The BBC are saying that if May does not drop her Chequers plan, members of the Cabinet will resign one after another.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:48 pm

Just shows how duplicitous the Cabinet is after signing up to the agreement following the Chequers meeting.

The bunch of tight arsed toffs probably only agreed to it so they didn't have to pay for their own taxis away from Chequers.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:51 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Just shows how duplicitous the Cabinet is after signing up to the agreement following the Chequers meeting.

The bunch of tight arsed toffs probably only agreed to it so they didn't have to pay for their own taxis away from Chequers.

Yeah, coz politicians have never claimed expenses