To those happy drop out of The Europa

[TVC15]

Anyone who wanted Burnley to get knocked out are the sort of folk who drink in Spoons because you know what you get at the right price, Buy milk and bread when it snows and holiday every year in Benidorm. Basically someone who can’t embrace living life on the edge

Anyone who laughs at their own sh-it unfunny comments is the type of d-ick you hope you don’t get buying a season ticket near your seat

[GodIsADeeJay81]

You're definitely a glass empty person aren't you?
Not even half empty, you've just tipped it all over the floor instead.

[BabylonClaret]

No. Im actually quite a positive person. But Im looking at this very coldly.

If you cant look at what ee had for 1st team and cover going into last season and see its not as good this season you need to give your head a wobble.

This debate overall though is about the response to going out of Europe. There are 2 ways basicslly to loom at this - either its not a bad thing becasue we need to focus on getting better in the Prem and soon enough we will be back; or this was a big chance that may be ten years before it happens again so we shoukd have done more to progress.

Im in the latter camp because i rhink the first camp is kidding themselves. Weve manged to step a bit furtjer each year but this window we arguably didnt even step enough to cover the league never mind anything else. The messages coming out of the club about difficumt markets etc are not new but as i said if we cant get players i who want to come here when weve the best offering ee have wver had rhen i suspect we are as far as we can go.

Big crissroads for rjis club over the next 2 years - do we have the balls or not?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

It's a difficult market every year for most clubs, unless they're willing to pay over the odds in wages and fees.

Look around and see what other clubs have spent and tell me if they've had value for money over the last few years compared to us.

The answer will be like us, a mixture of yes and no, it's a lucky dip at times as we well know.

Yeah we left it a bit late, but we always have too and it's not always by choice.

As for going out of Europe, we lost to a more experienced team, that's life sometimes but some people aren't that arsed or they're happy with it and others are naturally disappointed.
However we've now had a taste of it and it should in theory drive the club to want more.
Bit like our first trip to the PL, it led to more of it.

[Burnley87]

Anyone who laughs at their own sh-it unfunny comments is the type of d-ick you hope you don’t get buying a season ticket near your seat

Hit a nerve See you in spoon TVC

[BennyD]

But even Wigan won an FA Cup,yes i do know they were relegated in the same season,there is a danger of Premier League mediocrity becoming tedious,it won't happen this season but in time it could.

Equally we could have a bad season,this year or the next and fall through the trapdoor,in 20-30 years when people are browsing forums such as this,will they remember finishing 12th in the Premier League or will they recall a cup victory at Wembley should one ensue,we're in the 3rd round of the Carabao Cup and facing a League 1 side,surely even Sean must realise we are only 3 results away from a semi-final,obviously the luck of the draw plays a part,but we are unlikely to be given such a chance again soon.

Why worry about past glories? In time it won’t matter, for example, that we won the league cup in 2018, just as, for most people, it doesn’t matter that we won the FA cup in 1914. Why not enjoy the present and realise that each ‘mid table mediocrity’ will help us to support the club for longer. If we went under, and clubs in the present EFL will go under, who would give a tuppenny toss what cups we ever won? Just enjoy the ride while taking all the highs and lows as they come, you won’t care what we won when they are nailing down your lid.

[Stayingup]

As it was we didn't have a big enough squad of players through injury and lack of recruitment to cope with both Europa and Premier League. Results have shown that. Unlucky though to get such tough opponents in the qualifying rounds in Europa.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Why worry about past glories? In time it won’t matter, for example, that we won the league cup in 2018, just as, for most people, it doesn’t matter that we won the FA cup in 1914. Why not enjoy the present and realise that each ‘mid table mediocrity’ will help us to support the club for longer. If we went under, and clubs in the present EFL will go under, who would give a tuppenny toss what cups we ever won? Just enjoy the ride while taking all the highs and lows as they come, you won’t care what we won when they are nailing down your lid.

Surely thats even more reason to want to win something now or enjoy a european tour!?

[BennyD]

I’m all for winning cups, which one do you suggest?

[Top Claret]

If we beat United. Europe will be a long and distant memory and everyone will be saying, we are well shut

[ontario claret]

The thing I'm most happy about so far this year is that we got through our European adventure without one of stands being burnt down.

[Aclaret]

When we first got relegated from Premier League, many, including myself thought we would never get back. So what chance getting back into Europe ?

[Burnley loyal]

I wanted to compete in the Europa League, probably never get another chance playing top European teams.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I’m all for winning cups, which one do you suggest?

All 3

[tybfc]

If we beat United. Europe will be a long and distant memory and everyone will be saying, we are well shut

Perhaps you should speak for yourself and not everyone because I won't be saying that.

Those 3 days in Athens were amazing and after decades of watching Burnley in the doldrums a European tour, however short lived, was fantastic.

We are not 'well shut' and wish it could have continued as long as possible.

[ClaretLoup]

When we first got relegated from Premier League, many, including myself thought we would never get back. So what chance getting back into Europe ?

In the whole grand scheme of things getting promoted from the Championship has to be a whole lot easier than finishing seventh in the EPL.

[ontario claret]

Olympiakos drew AC Milan. Think if that had been us.

[Top Claret]

Perhaps you should speak for yourself and not everyone because I won't be saying that.

Those 3 days in Athens were amazing and after decades of watching Burnley in the doldrums a European tour, however short lived, was fantastic.

We are not 'well shut' and wish it could have continued as long as possible.

Your reasons are purely selfish

[Grumps]

Olympiakos drew AC Milan. Think if that had been us.

It wouldn't have been, as explained many times we would have been in a different pot

[Top Claret]

Who cares about Europe it's now history. Live for the moment. I would rather we played Manchester United a couple of times every season in the worlds best league, than AC Milan once every 50 years.

Some on hear are like spoilt kids going on about Europe, move on and grow up

[Spijed]

Who cares about Europe it's now history. Live for the moment. I would rather we played Manchester United a couple of times every season in the worlds best league, than AC Milan once every 50 years.

Some on hear are like spoilt kids going on about Europe, move on and grow up

Do you think playing Man U, season in, season out is going to remain as exciting in a few years time if we are still in the Prem?

[fidelcastro]

Do you think playing Man U, season in, season out is going to remain as exciting in a few years time if we are still in the Prem?

yes.

[Burnley1989]

yes.

Crazy.... I’d much rather play teams in Europe with exciting away ties than go to old Trafford once a season.

Most of, if not all of my mates agree that whilst the premier league status is nice to have, they’d swop it for relegation and an FA Cup win. Championship football is brilliant as well.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Your reasons are purely selfish

While obviously its not selfish, if it was that could be argued both ways.

[Spijed]

Who cares about Europe it's now history. Live for the moment. I would rather we played Manchester United a couple of times every season in the worlds best league, than AC Milan once every 50 years.

Some on hear are like spoilt kids going on about Europe, move on and grow up

I'm sure every supporter has dreamt about their team playing in one of the great stadiums of the world, not in a friendly, not an an exhibition match, but in a proper game.

Imagine seeing 'Little old Burnley' in a game that actually meant something, in a place like the San Siro, a stadium that ranks alongside the Nou Camp or the Bernabéu.

Would you rather have a few years of achieving bugger all in the Prem instead?

[Rileybobs]

This is all pretty futile. I doubt there were many happy to see us not progress the other night but it’s perfectly reasonable that some people would rather us maintain our Premier League status than play an extra 6 games in Europe. In any case, the two were never mutually exclusive.

We were knocked out by a very experienced European side who were big favourites to progress. There’s no saying that playing a stronger side (we put out a strong side in each leg) would have turned the tie by three goals. It’s unlikely that a couple of additional new signings would have even featured to an extent to change the course of the tie considering how long Dyche likes to get new signings into the swing of things.

It’s cup football, we were knocked out by a better side, these things happen. The way some are going on here it seems that they’re more upset that they’ve been deprived of a lads weekend in Europe.

[cricketfieldclarets]

It’s unlikely that a couple of additional new signings would have even featured to an extent to change the course of the tie considering how long Dyche likes to get new signings into the swing of things.

Hart made his debut straight after signing
Gibson made his as soon as he was registered
Vydra was registered st the first opportunity and thrown in with 0 minutes under his belt when we needed goal

For all the safety first etc we created a lot of our own problems and risked many more. Throwing in vydra chasing a game we shouldnt have needed to chase was daft
Playing in a way against istanbul that meant we ended up going to extra time (again) was naive. Fragile players like JBG had to play extra time when we could and shouldve put teams out good enough to beat them. And now hes injured!

[Pimlico_Claret]

If we beat United. Europe will be a long and distant memory and everyone will be saying, we are well shut

No it won't, we've already beaten them in the Premier league.

[BabylonClaret]

Thats a bit harsh on the tactics foe the firat xouple of rounds. However you are spot on about getting players in. Does anyone here think if ww had signed any of our key forward targets they wouldnt have been pretty much straight in?

It is all ifs and buts but Dyche himswlf has said more than once he wanted to get a few more in and afyer the Athens game said "but we wanted this challenge, so we need to face up to it" or words ro that effect.thw challenge is the europa league and his emphasis on the we meant i think that the club wanted it as a group so it wasnt something we had thrust on us.

Like i said a big learning point for thr club and a crossroads over the next 2 seasons which will shape our future.

[Top Claret]

No it won't, we've already beaten them in the Premier league.

Grow up and put the clubs interest at heart and not your selfish jaunt around Europe, you silly little boy

[taio]

Grow up and put the clubs interest at heart and not your selfish jaunt around Europe, you silly little boy

What a truly ridiculous post.

[Top Claret]

What a truly ridiculous post.

Take it you are another one still crying himself to sleep

[taio]

Take it you are another one still crying himself to sleep

Nope. I am disappointed because I wanted us to progress in Europa. I can understand the position of those who didn't though. But your comments are just stupid.

[Pimlico_Claret]

Grow up and put the clubs interest at heart and not your selfish jaunt around Europe, you silly little boy

I've had the clubs interest at heart since my first match in 1972,however carry on with your pathetic insults whilst I selfishly decide what to do with my life.

[TVC15]

Ignore him - he’s a f’in idiot

[Top Claret]

Ignore him - he’s a f’in idiot

Poor form owd hen.. No need to get personal.

[TVC15]

Poor form owd hen.. No need to get personal.

Read your own posts back you chump

[Top Claret]

Why all the insults?

Not called for and truly bad form owd hen



Where are the mods when needed to send this ghastly fella to the sin bin. Let him stew in his own **** for a month and hopefully he will come back a reformed character

[TVC15]

Grow up and put the clubs interest at heart and not your selfish jaunt around Europe, you silly little boy

stop writing sh-it like this and you might get a bit more respect

[Top Claret]

Lighten up Owd Hen life is to short

[TVC15]

Rather than trying to be witty with this Owd Hen sh-it why don't you learn to spell ?

[Pimlico_Claret]

Why all the insults?

Not called for and truly bad form owd hen



Where are the mods when needed to send this ghastly fella to the sin bin. Let him stew in his own **** for a month and hopefully he will come back a reformed character

In case you forgot you insulted me, telling me to grow up, stop being selfish and calling me a silly little boy. As I'm actually in my 50's, I'm going to assume you are nowhere near me, probably best if you take off the keyboard warrior suit and follow the advice you incorrectly thought I required.
You are neither amusing nor appear to be in possession of much intelligence.

[Top Claret]

Oh do shut up. If you can't stand a bit of banter you and your mate really shouldn't bother coming on these type of forums, you take life far to seriously.

[IanMcL]

I have deleted all those reserved dates, from my calendar. Depressing. European adventure, showing Burnley to the world, is over for another season.

I feel a loss.

Up the Clarets

[quoonbeatz]

thought the flat atmosphere yesterday was very much a reflection of the PL becoming the norm. big crowd, big game, practically dead until the penalty.

stark contrast to thursday night, where we were playing a new team with the prize of games against other new teams if we won.

given that so many people appear to be more into the PL than europe why wasn't everyone massively up for yesterday's game against one of the biggest clubs in the world?

[Quickenthetempo]

The one thing people are missing out which is a huge difference I feel.

Knockout football games where you need to win produce better games than league games where Dyche cautiously plays for the draw and hopes to nick a 1-0 win.

[Lancasterclaret]

Because we started like it was a testimonial Quoon.

[cricketfieldclarets]

thought the flat atmosphere yesterday was very much a reflection of the PL becoming the norm. big crowd, big game, practically dead until the penalty.

stark contrast to thursday night, where we were playing a new team with the prize of games against other new teams if we won.

given that so many people appear to be more into the PL than europe why wasn't everyone massively up for yesterday's game against one of the biggest clubs in the world?

Nail on the head. There will be excuses though.

[TVC15]

thought the flat atmosphere yesterday was very much a reflection of the PL becoming the norm. big crowd, big game, practically dead until the penalty.

stark contrast to thursday night, where we were playing a new team with the prize of games against other new teams if we won.

given that so many people appear to be more into the PL than europe why wasn't everyone massively up for yesterday's game against one of the biggest clubs in the world?

To be fair Quoon the atmosphere has been pretty flat for most of the last 8 years. Last time when the ground was rocking on a constant basis was under horseface.

I don't really know why - there's probably a whole bunch of demographic and social reasons.
When I hear the atmosphere at grounds like Crystal Palace (similar in size of fan base to us) you do wonder whether we would benefit from trying to learn some lessons from what they have done to generate that noise every week.
I went to an MLS game in Toronto last year and the atmosphere was better there than Burnley and that's to watch some pretty mediocre stuff. But I do know that part of the reason behind the atmosphere at Toronto was some deliberate strategies of creating a section of fans who were allowed flares, flags etc....all sounds very American (or Canadian) I know but this has worked at several MLS grounds and it was a genuine not artificial atmosphere helped by the fact no doubt that Toronto were winning most of the time and won the MLS last year.

Not saying this would work at Burnley but it should not be the case that we need to score before you here a noise.

[Rileybobs]

To be fair Quoon the atmosphere has been pretty flat for most of the last 8 years. Last time when the ground was rocking on a constant basis was under horseface.

I don't really know why - there's probably a whole bunch of demographic and social reasons.
When I hear the atmosphere at grounds like Crystal Palace (similar in size of fan base to us) you do wonder whether we would benefit from trying to learn some lessons from what they have done to generate that noise every week.
I went to an MLS game in Toronto last year and the atmosphere was better there than Burnley and that's to watch some pretty mediocre stuff. But I do know that part of the reason behind the atmosphere at Toronto was some deliberate strategies of creating a section of fans who were allowed flares, flags etc....all sounds very American (or Canadian) I know but this has worked at several MLS grounds and it was a genuine not artificial atmosphere helped by the fact no doubt that Toronto were winning most of the time and won the MLS last year.

Not saying this would work at Burnley but it should not be the case that we need to score before you here a noise.

Can’t say I was too impressed by the atmosphere at Selhurst Park last season.