MIGHTY CLARETS versus Chelski

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:11 pm

they have spent even more and have even better players

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:12 pm

joey13 wrote:How did we beat them last season then , and draw the season before ?

EXACTLY this

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:14 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:EXACTLY this

We had some better players

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:15 pm

Palace 2-2, 2 pens - amazing what happens when you get in your opponents penalty area with a tricky winger !

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:16 pm

icu81b4 wrote:We had some better players

Which players ?

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:16 pm

Palace get a second penalty-score

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:18 pm

God sake another depressing affair watching burnley, can’t wait for a change of manager I really can’t

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:18 pm

joey13 wrote:Which players ?

Re-phrase , players that played better

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:18 pm

joey13 wrote:How did we beat them last season then , and draw the season before ?

Football doesn't work like that. We beat Bournemouth 4-0 - they have beat Fulham 3-0. Fulham beat us.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:19 pm

I don't see where our next point is coming from

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:19 pm

just give Joe Hart the player of the season award now, stunning save

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:19 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Football doesn't work like that. We beat Bournemouth 4-0 - they have beat Fulham 3-0. Fulham beat us.

No it works when you put effort in which isn’t happening can’t understand why everyone watching can’t see this , the players aren’t playing for the manager it’s as simple as that .

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:20 pm

MOM Joe Hart

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:20 pm

0-4 garbage

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:20 pm

For a start, Chelsea themselves have improved markedly from last season.

And its four.

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:20 pm

joey13 wrote:No it works when you put effort in which isn’t happening can’t understand why everyone watching can’t see this , the players aren’t playing for the manager it’s as simple as that .

What absolute ********!

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:22 pm

You can only laugh really.. embarrassing really

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:22 pm

Joe hart raving with the fourth... He's wondering why he signed I'm sure.this is poor!

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:22 pm

BFCmaj wrote:What absolute ********!

Take your head out of the sand , it’s so obviously

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:22 pm

good job Hazard was injured

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:23 pm

We are declining at an alarming rate this season! Shipping goals for fun and don't look even remotely like scoring in a large percentage of games. It's a horrible experience at the moment

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:23 pm

Still hate it that these top teams still cheat no need for it

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:23 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Hit it long and hold on for a 3-0 loss.

Drat! So near as well.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:25 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:We are declining at an alarming rate this season! Shipping goals for fun and don't look even remotely like scoring in a large percentage of games. It's a horrible experience at the moment

All fine for the powers that be at turf moor.. keep it cheap and we'll be ok!

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:25 pm

joey13 wrote:Take your head out of the sand , it’s so obviously

I think you’ve been listening to too much TalkSport. It’s so obviously what?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:28 pm

BFCmaj wrote:I think you’ve been listening to too much TalkSport. It’s so obviously what?

Ok slag my opinion off , what’s your reason why there’s not the same effort from the players ?

TonbridgeClaret · Post by **TonbridgeClaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:30 pm

We have now only won 2 games out of our past 22 inside 90 minutes, scoring 18 and conceding 37. Wake up people, or is it still 'in Dyche we trust.' This poor form now goes back over 6 months!

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:31 pm

Last year, this clearly is not. I still can’t see us going down with the list of teams that look poor this year.

THEWELLER has it right when he says it’s a horrible experience at the moment, though...

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:38 pm

TonbridgeClaret wrote:We have now only won 2 games out of our past 22 inside 90 minutes, scoring 18 and conceding 37. Wake up people, or is it still 'in Dyche we trust.' This poor form now goes back over 6 months!

I want a change but the board would never sanction this, they don't want to spend money on players, why on earth would they pay SD off!!
Again the saving grace for SD is the shite below us.. I don't know if that's a good thing?

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:40 pm

Mee and Lowton look a shadow of their former selves. We are poor at closing wing play down because we are too narrow and don't get out quickly enough. We have a midfield two that lack pace/hight/physicality and when caught up field struggle to get back behind the ball which in turn puts extra pressure on the defence. We have a player in Vydra who for whatever reason hasn't had hardly any game time in a month, yet we persist with Hendrick in that roll where he has one half decent game in ten. Drop Hendrick back to partner Defour and put Vydra in the 10. One up front even at 2-0 and after a sub being introduced. Wood isn't a lone striker yet we persist with this formula hoping for a different outcome.
There's so much wrong at the moment imo and it needs sorting asap.
One thing we could rely upon and take heart from is that we played with an intensity and were as stubborn as a mule regardless of the opposition. We are a long long way from that this season

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:41 pm

People need to accept this now before it gets too late, the form is awful, the football is awful. At one stage under Dyche I was confident that a relegation would see us fighting the championship for promotion again. Right now we would struggle in the championship.
It's looking very bleak, at what point is a change needed? We shouldn't be accepting relegation by blindly carrying on in the same vein.

Can anyone tell me they are happy with either the form or the football?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:42 pm

TonbridgeClaret wrote:We have now only won 2 games out of our past 22 inside 90 minutes, scoring 18 and conceding 37. Wake up people, or is it still 'in Dyche we trust.' This poor form now goes back over 6 months!

Where our 2 best players were missing. Today was Chelsea. Give Defour and Brady a chance to get back up to speed.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:42 pm

Conroy92 wrote:Right now we would struggle in the championship.

You haven't seen any Championship football in the last 2 seasons, then.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:43 pm

Dyche doesn't seem to react fast enough to what is happening on the pitch. Always seems to make the changes when it is too late.

I don't think we should bin Dyche, but he really has to change something because we are looking like relegation fodder in this current form.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:46 pm

Iv seen enough of us over the past 6 months to know it.

What positives are you seeing in this side Frank? There's no shame in admitting it's garbage currently. Fans will stop watching soon. It is getting that bad.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:53 pm

There's a lot of knees jerking

Chelsea are better than Burnley. Hardly big news.
We'll be fine.
The first 20 minutes would have seen us 2 goals up against an average side.

Can everyone grab hold of their knees and stop them jerking so much...

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:02 pm

Burnley manager Sean Dyche: "We started very well, it's a fair shout and then we give away a poor goal from our point of view. It was a top side doing what top sides do, they finish clinically.

"On reflection we have played two top sides back to back in City and Chelsea who have delivered top performances and it's hard to deal with that. We aren't a million miles away.

"Ever since Leicester threw the form book out of the window the superpowers have moved forwards. They have deeper squads, it is getting more difficult to compete. If you look at the table the only real anomaly at the moment is Manchester United.

"Chelsea are title contenders without a doubt. They have a real mixture of players, they are a top top side. The techinical and physical quality of their play is outstanding."

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:17 pm

burnley007 wrote:There's a lot of knees jerking

Chelsea are better than Burnley. Hardly big news.
We'll be fine.
The first 20 minutes would have seen us 2 goals up against an average side.

Can everyone grab hold of their knees and stop them jerking so much...

I agree that all is not doom and gloom, but I’m not sure we win today, even going up two and playing an average side. We were that shaky in the back.

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:19 pm

joey13 wrote:Ok slag my opinion off , what’s your reason why there’s not the same effort from the players ?

I didn’t say there wasn’t the same effort from the players. You obviously view it differently from me. We just played Chelsea who are currently 2nd in the Premier League.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:20 pm

BFCmaj wrote:I didn’t say there wasn’t the same effort from the players. You obviously view it differently from me. We just played Chelsea who are currently 2nd in the Premier League.

Agreed, losing 4-0 at Ve Ammers next week would be more worrying.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:27 pm

Chelsea are great, and so are Citeh. Just wish they didn't have this overriding desire to always con the ref. But that's modern football. We'll do better against West Ham, guaranteed. Now, on to my NFL afternoon, and last game of the World Series tonight.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:13 pm

BFCmaj wrote:I didn’t say there wasn’t the same effort from the players. You obviously view it differently from me. We just played Chelsea who are currently 2nd in the Premier League.

The list of teams outplaying us is growing bigger every match don’t get your hopes up too much

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:27 pm

joey13 wrote:The list of teams outplaying us is growing bigger every match don’t get your hopes up too much

We’ve played 10 games ffs.