Today's footie 4/9

[taio]

Do you not think it would benefit everyone if they brought in some sort of "allowed number of replays" ? ie, they are allowed 2 slow motion and 2 full speed replays to determine a clear and obvious ? Unless the sun is shining on the screen (then move the screen!) he should have clocked that on the first replay

A lot of merit in your suggestion.

[KRBFC]

I don't like VAR whether it makes the right decision after another ref in a dark room has checked 10 replays or not. I liked football when VAR didn't interfere and sanitise the game.

I'll put the rude and unnecessary simpleton comment down to you coming down from your high of being right on the internet over Mitrovic. We've all got to get our moments of satisfaction from somewhere, I suppose.

I don't like VAR either but to criticise VAR while pointing to a correct VAR decision (the benefit of VAR) just doesn't make any logical sense.

[Vegas Claret]

Well that was badly timed! 1-0 United.

it's usually me that happens to ! Glad I'm not alone

[KRBFC]

Do you not think it would benefit everyone if they brought in some sort of "allowed number of replays" ? ie, they are allowed 2 slow motion and 2 full speed replays to determine a clear and obvious ? Unless the sun is shining on the screen (then move the screen!) he should have clocked that on the first replay

I think they need to scrap VAR, just bring in the very best foreign referees. I think these referees are poor, some of them biased towards certain clubs. Almost all ex referees after they retire come out in interviews and talk about how they were biased towards certain teams based on certain factors. It's not even just bias towards the big clubs, human nature makes it hard to be objective and forget previous encounters. If I was a referee and the Preston team/fans were overly rude and aggressive towards me, the next time I'd referee a PNE game, I'd find it difficult to be neutral.

[Vegas Claret]

I think they need to scrap VAR, just bring in the very best foreign referees. I think these referees are poor, some of them biased towards certain clubs. Almost all ex referees after they retire come out in interviews and talk about how they were biased towards certain teams based on certain factors. It's not even just bias towards the big clubs, human nature makes it hard to be objective and forget previous encounters. If I was a referee and the Preston team/fans were overly rude and aggressive towards me, the next time I'd referee a PNE game, I'd find it difficult to be neutral.

you would think VAR would help with that with the refs being hidden away but after looking at the Chelsea West Ham decision you have to question it. As mentioned earlier, Howard Webb has an almighty mess to fix

[Taffy on the wing]

Do you not think it would benefit everyone if they brought in some sort of "allowed number of replays" ? ie, they are allowed 2 slow motion and 2 full speed replays to determine a clear and obvious ? Unless the sun is shining on the screen (then move the screen!) he should have clocked that on the first replay

I'd prefer a number of challenges allowed per manager/team ....say 2 per half.....after that it's up to the Ref.

[ksrclaret]

I don't like VAR either but to criticise VAR while pointing to a correct VAR decision (the benefit of VAR) just doesn't make any logical sense.

I'm not pointing to a correct VAR decision. It could have gone either way. Eriken was weak as p1ss, didn't protect the ball properly when opening his body out with a man on him. Sure, there was some contact, but it's a contact sport. Neither the ref nor liner spotted anything majorly wrong in real time.

It wasn't clear and obvious to some but was to others. There's a big issue there, if you think about it.

[ksrclaret]

Could be 1-1 unless there was something wrong somewhere in the build up

If it is 1-1, it’s been coming

[Burnley Ace]

Erikson again!

[Beagle]

Good for Rashford

[Vegas Claret]

that's the kind of breakaway goal I think we will score once we click properly

[Stayingup]

And what on earth made him decide to shave his head? Doesn’t suit at all.

Maybe he thought he could see where his brain was. Which is actually missing quite often when he refs.

[4midable]

Arsenal should have been out of sight earlier on

[tiger76]

Utd suddenly on a roll, funny how quickly this game can change, and they've beaten Arsenal and Liverpool during that 4 game winning streak.

[Top Claret]

that's the kind of breakaway goal I think we will score once we click properly

We let West Brom of the hook, we had plenty of chances to kill the game off on the break

[Vegas Claret]

We let West Brom of the hook, we had plenty of chances to kill the game off on the break

indeed, we were a Churlinov stumble away from winning. It'll come. There wont be a single team in this division that wouldn't be happy with a point at the Hawthorns and that's important to remember

[Spijed]

they also seem to have bought loads in (I've lost count) of players that haven't made the grade and have moved on - did they make profit on any of those lads ? I've no idea just asking btw

Brighton and Potter seem to be very similar to Bournemouth when Howe was doing very well with them.

Everyone said Bournemouth were the benchmark we should follow. Yet that went wrong.

What people don't realise is that Brighton like Bournemouth have a very wealthy owner and they have been able to make mistakes with signings far easier than we can. Losing Weghorst for a pittance hits us far harder than it would either of those two clubs.

Also, like Bournemouth, it'll eventually go stale for Potter as it did for Howe and similarly at Leicester despite a FA Cup win.

The only manager to ever avoid that scenario to date is Fergie at Man U.

[tiger76]

Brighton and Potter seem to be very similar to Bournemouth when Howe was doing very well with them.

Everyone said Bournemouth were the benchmark we should follow. Yet that went wrong.

What people don't realise is that Brighton like Bournemouth have a very wealthy owner and they have been able to make mistakes with signings far easier than we can. Losing Weghorst for a pittance hits us far harder than it would either of those two clubs.

Also, like Bournemouth, it'll eventually go stale for Potter as it did for Howe and similarly at Leicester despite a FA Cup win.

The only manager to ever avoid that scenario to date is Fergie at Man U.

Yes both Bournemouth and Brighton enjoy the benefit of having a wealthy owner to fall back on, but although we can't totally replicate what they've done or are doing, we can certainly take aspects of what they've done well, i.e. buying relatively cheap and selling at a profit, not easy to continue doing year after year, but that has to be our strategy, as we're unlikely to remain a regular PL club, probably the best we can hope for is to become a yo-yo club similar to the likes of Norwich and Watford.

Recruitment will be key I agree, and this is where we have to trust in VK to come up with the goods more often than not, will every signing come up trumps, no of course they won't, but if he moulds even a couple to make large profits on, that'll stand us in good stead to reinvest.

Regarding managers who've avoided going stale I'd nominate Wenger, sure Arsenal dipped slightly during his later years, but they still came top 4, and won cups.