Game postponed

[NottsClaret]

Having slept on it.. seems even weirder to cancel sport. Everyone is up and off to work. Kids at school, cafes open, offices busy.

But then something where we all come together, and enjoy our free weekend time.. that’s got to be cancelled. Honestly, football’s mawkish, weird obsession with death and tributes needs to stop. It’s a pastime and a bit of escapism, not a focal point for grief and remembrance.

[jrgbfc]

If it's been postponed Just extend the season by a week.

It's not that simple. Play offs, international games etc.

[Corky]

I'm a Republican and have no love, respect or need for a constitutional monarch. I also find it strange that people who have never met the Queen seem to know so much personal detail about her. How hard working she is, how well she has served the country and how devoted to her subjects etc etc...

Putting this into context, every year the first thing in her diary was the horse racing stuff at Epsom and Ascot. Fair enough, but our national sport is Association Football so she personally should attend the FA Cup Final each year. She didn't like Football so the last final she went to was 1975, for all the others she abrogated her responsibility and sent a representative. That in reality shows you how much she cared about duty. Lip service.

[wilks_bfc]

I think you might need to check up on that

I don’t need to check anything

I know officers from Northumberland and Manchester that have been redeployed to London to help cover large events such as these

I’m not saying this is the case this time, but it has happened

[1882Clarets1882]

People bleating on about not getting to see the game tonight. It'll be rescheduled and you'll all get to see it. One things for sure, none of us will see the likes of The Queen again.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I'm a Republican and have no love, respect or need for a constitutional monarch. I also find it strange that people who have never met the Queen seem to know so much personal detail about her. How hard working she is, how well she has served the country and how devoted to her subjects etc etc...

Putting this into context, every year the first thing in her diary was the horse racing stuff at Epsom and Ascot. Fair enough, but our national sport is Association Football so she personally should attend the FA Cup Final each year. She didn't like Football so the last final she went to was 1975, for all the others she abrogated her responsibility and sent a representative. That in reality shows you how much she cared about duty. Lip service.

You find it strange that people who have never met her knew how hard she worked, yet you know what she puts in her diary first.

Perhaps you would have been happier stood on the terrace with the Shamrock Rovers fans last night chanting with your fellow republicans

[bfcjg]

The Queen loved sport, horse racing in particular. Postponing football for so long seems harsh, a dignified minutes silence or applause would be appropriate especially for a lot of younger people don't have much interest in royalty.

[Flying Without Ings]

I doubt they will extend the season - the postponed game will just be squeezed in somewhere. They managed it when we had a load of games called off last season because of players getting covid.

The only positives are that we have a big enough squad to deal with the heavy fixture list whereas many other champ teams won't, which might give us an advantage (assuming the other champ games are postponed), and it gives Twine more time to get fit.

[Carport]

I'm a Republican and have no love, respect or need for a constitutional monarch. I also find it strange that people who have never met the Queen seem to know so much personal detail about her. How hard working she is, how well she has served the country and how devoted to her subjects etc etc...

Putting this into context, every year the first thing in her diary was the horse racing stuff at Epsom and Ascot. Fair enough, but our national sport is Association Football so she personally should attend the FA Cup Final each year. She didn't like Football so the last final she went to was 1975, for all the others she abrogated her responsibility and sent a representative. That in reality shows you how much she cared about duty. Lip service.

You don’t have to know someone to form an opinion about them. Do you have an opinion about the work Dyche did for Burnley for example? Did you personally know him? And your statement is self defeating. How do you know the first thing that went in her diary was horse racing events? And finally you’re trying to put forward an opinion that she paid lip service to duty by picking just one of the multitude of things expected of her; ignoring the vast amount of commitments she kept over 70 years. Really?

[CoolClaret]

The only reason it’s been postponed is because the EFL/Burnley etc are **** scared of losing social brownie points

It achieves absolutely nothing.

I get it - she was a constant in an ever changing world for a good 70 years and committed to her service, but let’s not pretend it wasn’t without controversy.

Find it extremely bizarre when there’s folks with low income, be struggling to pay their bills this winter in absolute bits where Lizzie casually funnelled what - 10-20 million over to her peado son for his legal issues a few months back?

Some folk just love being controlled by the powers that be

[ŽižkovClaret]

Feel sorry for the lad i saw posting about coming over from Canada for 3 games....... poor sod might not see 1 now.

[Elizabeth]

Had the queen died after a long term illness I wonder if these postponements would have happened. Despite her age I think the swiftness of events has heightened the sadness and shock to the nation.
I'm disappointed our match the day after the death has been postponed but hope the rest of the weekend fixtures go ahead and people can get back to their normal life until the funeral.

[Corky]

OK I admit I don't know what she had in her diary. I wrote it like that for expediencies sake. So would one of you like to tell me through her reign how many times she missed Ascot/Epsom compared to the FA Cup Final. And it seems that someone doesn't understand what being a Republican is...it doesn't mean I support Shamrock Rovers but it does mean I would like to live in a country without having a constitutional monarch. Given that we haven't got a written constitution it is a bit of a no brainer for me. Finally, all these pointless platitudes about how marvellous she is are just opinions nothing remotely factual!!!!!

[ŽižkovClaret]

As Liverpool are at home tomorrow, i think that just might tip the authorities over into cancelling the whole weekend's fixtures

[Nori1958]

I don’t need to check anything

I know officers from Northumberland and Manchester that have been redeployed to London to help cover large events such as these

I’m not saying this is the case this time, but it has happened

.. I have been one of those deployed elsewhere in the past, but these deployments have never forced any event to be cancelled in other police force. If anyone from lancs goes to London it will be specialised officers, search officers, firearms etc, it would have no bearing on the policing of football matches in Lancashire.

[claretonthecoast1882]

OK I admit I don't know what she had in her diary. I wrote it like that for expediencies sake. So would one of you like to tell me through her reign how many times she missed Ascot/Epsom compared to the FA Cup Final. And it seems that someone doesn't understand what being a Republican is...it doesn't mean I support Shamrock Rovers but it does mean I would like to live in a country without having a constitutional monarch. Given that we haven't got a written constitution it is a bit of a no brainer for me. Finally, all these pointless platitudes about how marvellous she is are just opinions nothing remotely factual!!!!!

You would like to live in a country without having a constitutional monarch ? Did the Queen stop you moving ?

[ŽižkovClaret]

You would like to live in a country without having a constitutional monarch ? Did the Queen stop you moving ?

It didnt stop me

[Hipper]

When other old women die games don’t get called off. When my Gran died I was upset but they didn’t postpone anything.
Is the world still spinning? Is life still on going?
If you want to stay at home and cry about the passing of someone you haven’t even met then fine, that is up to you, but we should have the choice. This is just my opinion of course and I am entitled to it just as you are entitled to spend the next ten days crying.

But would you go to a football match on the day of your Gran's death?

You need to see this event as the nation's Gran just dying. Many people (including me) don't feel that way but many do, including quite possibly club officials, players etc..

[turbo5]

If fans boo the national anthem during this period I can see the FA taking harsh action against the clubs involved.

[CoolClaret]

But would you go to a football match on the day of your Gran's death?

You need to see this event as the nation's Gran just dying. Many people (including me) don't feel that way but many do, including quite possibly club officials, players etc..

Yet here we all are going to work, folk will be in the boozers tonight, in restaurants in whatever other establishment they may or may not be in partaking in whatever activity they may be doing…..

But no, not football because it’s ‘showing respect’

Doesn’t quite compute does it

[NottsClaret]

But would you go to a football match on the day of your Gran's death?

You need to see this event as the nation's Gran just dying. Many people (including me) don't feel that way but many do, including quite possibly club officials, players etc..

The curious thing is though how we single out professional sport time and again. Amateur sport will be played. People will go to the cinema, to restaurants, pubs. But bizarrely, if it's people being paid to play sport.. that's somehow disrespectful.

Everyone has to work today, a huge number will work as usual over the weekend. Initially I was annoyed but now genuinely intrigued what it is about professional sport that means it can't continue while pretty much everything else does.

[Espia]

I found the Queen personally (not necessarily the monarchy system) to be a symbol of unification, respect and dignity. Those elements would all have been expressed at sporting events across the country today , including the Tour of Britain and the game at Turf Moor. What a marvellous way to demonstrate her influence - now sadly missed.

[Belgianclaret]

Won't get involved in the discussion to postpone or not.

What I would have liked to see was all sporting events to be preceded by the national anthem (God save the Queen), followed by an applause by all fans together.

That would have been a proper send off

[RVclaret]

The curious thing is though how we single out professional sport time and again. Amateur sport will be played. People will go to the cinema, to restaurants, pubs. But bizarrely, if it's people being paid to play sport.. that's somehow disrespectful.

Everyone has to work today, a huge number will work as usual over the weekend. Initially I was annoyed but now genuinely intrigued what it is about professional sport that means it can't continue while pretty much everything else does.

It is a fair point. Perhaps it's because it's in the public eye? Fans singing about t***s, f***y and clarets within 24 hours of the longest ever reigning Monarch's death? Would it appear a bit distasteful?

[AGENT_CLARET]

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[Corky]

You would like to live in a country without having a constitutional monarch ? Did the Queen stop you moving ?

Not as far as I'm aware. But as you were no doubt a close personal friend of hers, as so many seem to be these days, perhaps you could tell me?

[martin_p]

Yet here we all are going to work, folk will be in the boozers tonight, in restaurants in whatever other establishment they may or may not be in partaking in whatever activity they may be doing…..

But no, not football because it’s ‘showing respect’

Doesn’t quite compute does it

Why does it have to ‘compute’? Lots of people will think a bunch of grown men getting their knickers in a twist because a football match has been postponed doesn’t ‘compute’.

[NottsClaret]

It is a fair point. Perhaps it's because it's in the public eye? Fans singing about t***s, f***y and clarets within 24 hours of the longest ever reigning Monarch's death? Would it appear a bit distasteful?

Feels like a bit of a stretch. Although about it being in the public eye rings true. Much of this is performative. It's not about being sad, it's about looking sad. The lunacy around Diana's death in '97 set the benchmark.. anything less than well organised mass mourning - to camera - will not do.

[Lancasterclaret]

I think (having slept on it) that our game probably has just fallen victim to being on today and I fully understand that

I think normal service should be resumed for tomorrow, but I guess we will find out

[AGENT_CLARET]

Love this story

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[AGENT_CLARET]

I think (having slept on it) that our game probably has just fallen victim to being on today and I fully understand that

I think normal service should be resumed for tomorrow, but I guess we will find out

I'm hoping so to, a couple of days of national respect then back to normal come Saturday until the funeral

[RVclaret]

I think (having slept on it) that our game probably has just fallen victim to being on today and I fully understand that

I think normal service should be resumed for tomorrow, but I guess we will find out

Yes agree with this

[NottsClaret]

If games are cancelled on Saturday, is it 'disrespectful' to play on Sunday? How about Monday? You can be sure they'll be playing on Tuesday because that's a UEFA competition and they can't postpone those, only forfeit. And there's no amount of 'respect' in the world that will see a Premier League club write off Champions League cash.

[TheFamilyCat]

Feels like a bit of a stretch. Although about it being in the public eye rings true. Much of this is performative. It's not about being sad, it's about looking sad. The lunacy around Diana's death in '97 set the benchmark.. anything less than well organised mass mourning - to camera - will not do.

I was in two minds whether to post this as I'm almost embarrassed for her....

My wife has just asked whether it's ok to send work emails today, in case the recipient is in mourning. Unless you're sending one to KCIII you're probably ok, love.

[claret2018]

I'm hoping so to, a couple of days of national respect then back to normal come Saturday until the funeral

Best of luck with that. This country loves competitive grief so would be amazed if any games happen before the funeral.

[martin_p]

Best of luck with that. This country loves competitive grief so would be amazed if any games happen before the funeral.

Not as much as it loves a good whinge unfortunately.

[Rileybobs]

Not as much as it loves a good whinge unfortunately.

Think you're confusing people having a different opinion from you as whinging, and you're better than that.

[martin_p]

Think you're confusing people having a different opinion from you as whinging, and you're better than that.

Nope. Some of it’s opinion, a lot of it is definitely whinge.

[CoolClaret]

Why does it have to ‘compute’? Lots of people will think a bunch of grown men getting their knickers in a twist because a football match has been postponed doesn’t ‘compute’.

Yawn

It’s not the football specifically, it’s the abstract - that we have to live and alter our lives on a whim because of the ideals of others that certainly don’t represent the entire populace of the Country….

Especially when everything else is ahead as normal - it’s daft

[ClaretPete001]

Let's talk about privations. Would you accede to have, say, dental work postponed for ten days? Would you accept a proscription on holding, say, birthday parties, even those of your own children, for these days of national mourning? Would you find it justified if, say, in the spirit of national mourning, laughing at a joke were punishable by a fixed penalty notice?

If your answer to any of these questions is, 'of course not', then you agree with me in principle that you are due certain rights to do certain activities, however petty, in spite of this state of national mourning. And at this point, all we're negotiating is what precisely it is that ought to be allowed and not allowed. So, while you're focussed on reducing football to a triviality (despite, I suspect, elevating it to a matter of cultural and economic importance whenever it suits other arguments), I'm focussed on the ways in which a power structure I find to be ridiculous, which presents itself as utterly benign, in fact imposes itself on everyone whether they like it or not in service of nothing more than its own preservation.

You miss my point. Watching Burnley is an important communal activity; however, for it to be so the collective has to have a shared set of beliefs in what is in reality a fairly trivial activity. It is the suspension of disbelief that makes it possible.

We also have to be tolerant of others who share in that activity to maintain the belief even when it it could be construed as offensive in normal circumstances.

It's the same as the Royal family. The symbolism and pageant is trivial but in order to maintain a society and a nation we have to suspend our disbelief.

For me, the re-emergence of the SELF and the individual right began with Thatcherism and neo-liberal insistence that individual rights trump those of the community and has descended into the WOKE culture that challenges even the existence of collective categories such as gender.

So, you are right that I see community football clubs as essential cultural and economic institutions I also think that in order to maintain it as such we have to respect its essential constitutional framework even if there are some aspects of it we do not like.

Football fans of all people should know that.....!

[Rileybobs]

Nope. Some of it’s opinion, a lot of it is definitely whinge.

I'm not particularly fussed that there isn't a Burnley game tonight - Friday nights aren't the best for me. But I suspect the 20,000 football fans who were going to attend tonight's match will be spending their time doing something equally, if not more trivial. From what I've read on here there doesn't seem to be much whinging, but people questioning the logic of tonight's football match being cancelled when everyone can, for example, just go to the pub. I played football about 2 hours after the news last night, everyone turned up and just got on with it as usual.

The fact of the matter is the EFL was scared of appearing insensitive or disrespectful, and this is virtue signalling and not for the common good. You clearly agree with the decision, but let's not accuse others of whinging because that is equally as childish as calling those who agree with the decision serfs or plebs.

[Rileybobs]

Genuine question, and I would like some genuine answers; who on here wouldn't have attended tonight's game as a mark of respect?

[Boss Hogg]

If fans boo the national anthem during this period I can see the FA taking harsh action against the clubs involved.

It’s appalling but what can clubs do to stop it.

[LongsideClaret]

Believe the first team are playing a behind closed doors friendly v Tranmere later today.

[Boss Hogg]

You can be entertained still at the theatre, the pub, the cinema. a restaurant, a park …. but not at a football match. It’s the inconstency I don’t understand.

[Big Vinny K]

Man United game went ahead - yes fans and players already made the trip etc but may also have been the case for Norwich team who could have also been on their way or already in Burnley. And we know lots of fans will have taken a day off work to travel up.

But there is always inconsistency in this kind of thing and one thing we know for sure is that Burnley FC (unlike United and other big clubs) will have no say in anything that’s decided.

It’s not a big issue though. If the game had gone ahead there would have been lots of people upset and now it’s been cancelled there’s plenty not happy.

My own personal view is that respect can be paid without cancelling a cricket match or golf tournament and that there is no need to inconvenience what will be hundreds of thousands of people who were due to attend. It’s certainly not disrespectful in any way whatsoever to sit their and watch cricket…..that does not make any sense at all.

But some people thrive on making what they think are important decisions and heralding them as marks of respect……it’s ******** really in my view and I think it would have been more respectful to show those people at these events visibly demonstrating their respect through silence or applause.

[Culmclaret]

God help us! radio 3 now playing George Formby singing ‘On Ilkley Moor ‘bout hat’ because the Queen liked George Formby. Is nothing sacred?

[martin_p]

Yawn

It’s not the football specifically, it’s the abstract - that we have to live and alter our lives on a whim because of the ideals of others that certainly don’t represent the entire populace of the Country….

Especially when everything else is ahead as normal - it’s daft

Everything else isn’t ahead as normal though is it. Lots off today including the test match, Last Night of the Proms off, lots….

[boatshed bill]

you can go to the theatre, but not for comedy...that's the best one.
That's about half of Shakespeare's stuff off the menu

[claretblue]

from BBC Sport website:
'...Formula 1 is planning a minute's silence with all teams prior to practice on Friday for the Italian Grand Prix, with the race weekend to proceed as planned...'