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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by FeedTheArf » Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:23 pm
Going to be a nightmare for the City game
Maybe we should pull a Luton and get the game postponed! Better still, just give us the 3-0 defeat now and we’ll be on our way! :lol:

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Gee123 » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:45 pm

Any update on works progress it’s getting ridiculous

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by burnleymik » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:49 pm

Signs say end of August. Absolute pain to get across town right now.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:23 pm

Extremely disappointing that this hasn’t been sorted yet.

With the eyes of the globe on little old Burnley tonight and this is going to be the state of York street
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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Claretprinter » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:27 pm

But at the Turf end its almost finished and looks fantastic

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:50 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:23 pm
Extremely disappointing that this hasn’t been sorted yet.

With the eyes of the globe on little old Burnley tonight and this is going to be the state of York street
I don't think many of the globe will see Yorkshire st, to give it it's correct name

Moan moan moan.........
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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by martin_p » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:56 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:23 pm
Extremely disappointing that this hasn’t been sorted yet.

With the eyes of the globe on little old Burnley tonight and this is going to be the state of York street
They’ll just have to cut the sweeping vistas of Yorkshire Street they usually include in their coverage.
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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:02 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:56 pm
They’ll just have to cut the sweeping vistas of Yorkshire Street they usually include in their coverage.
Maybe now in our newfound image they can pan to various Church spires in and around the town…. 😉

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Walton » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:03 pm

The Famous Shop on Yorkshire Street is called so because of the wall-to-wall coverage that area gets.

The only reason Kompany agreed to become manager was because he wanted to see Balti King in the flesh, and he couldn't contain his excitement when the chauffeur who picked him up was from Kings. He'd practically grown up with them on his TV every day.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Whitgord » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:23 pm

I just hope that people can walk down the “road” part of Yorkshire Street tonight. The pavements look unusable on that picture

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Fretters » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:27 pm

Whitgord wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:23 pm
I just hope that people can walk down the “road” part of Yorkshire Street tonight. The pavements look unusable on that picture
It's closed to traffic, isn't it? So there'll be more walking room than usual.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:28 pm

Whitgord wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:23 pm
I just hope that people can walk down the “road” part of Yorkshire Street tonight. The pavements look unusable on that picture
As we all still wear clogs, we’ll bi reight

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by summitclaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:31 pm

They have been clearing the road this morning, so looks like there should be adequate width for pedestrians. Think the biggest issue will be the Wellington junction.

The bit from Plumbe Street to the lights was still open to traffic.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Claretprinter » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:35 pm

Its a hive of activity today. Has the Council realised its match day???

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by clarethomer » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:45 pm

Is this still likely to be all blocked off still for this weekend?

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:46 pm

Yep.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Claretforever » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:28 pm

Having driven past there yesterday I’d say they’ll be lucky if they have it all finished this side of 2024, and I genuinely think that. It’s a mess, and the past 3 times I’ve gone past there now during normal working hours there has been nothing going on. No workers, no activity.

£6m? It sounds like there are some huge margins in there for it to be taking so long, or the contract isn’t watertight and dragging it out incurs more costs as opposed to penalties. Other than force majeure, it should be strict deadlines or penalties incurred which scale up the longer it takes.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:37 pm

Looks like a decent job to me …… quality materials and workmanship. If it takes longer to finish than anticipated ( and that’s an if ) then so be it as it’s all about the end product .I’m certainly impressed so far despite the disruption ….. you can’t make an omelette without cracking eggs ….

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:01 pm

Doesnt look like it'll be finished this side of Xmas to me

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:38 pm

Distinct lack of progress.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:42 pm

Coming away from the turf last Sunday was a complete joke with the bottlenecks

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by dougcollins » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:45 pm

Who's actually got this gig, is it a council job?

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:46 pm

The bottleneck coming off the Turf just before walking under the culvert back to town was actually quite dangerous.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:48 pm

People were short cutting across the remains of the roundabout on Sunday after the match, then trying to cross onto St. James' Street dodging the traffic coming down Centenary Way.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by dsr » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:26 pm

You would think at least they would remove or amend the signs that say it will take 6 weeks starting June 5th.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Rowls » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:21 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:26 pm
You would think at least they would remove or amend the signs that say it will take 6 weeks starting June 5th.
How long do you estimate it would take to change the signs?
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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by claretandy » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:11 am

Widening the pavement at the Bob lord side has actually made less room for home fans to walk on before and after the games.🤦

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:13 am

claretandy wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:11 am
Widening the pavement at the Bob lord side has actually made less room for home fans to walk on before and after the games.🤦
Harry Potts Way is always closed to vehicles on match day I think 2 hours before kick off.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:29 am

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:37 pm
Looks like a decent job to me …… quality materials and workmanship. If it takes longer to finish than anticipated ( and that’s an if ) then so be it as it’s all about the end product .I’m certainly impressed so far despite the disruption ….. you can’t make an omelette without cracking eggs ….
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:47 am

claretandy wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:11 am
Widening the pavement at the Bob lord side has actually made less room for home fans to walk on before and after the games.🤦
????

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by claretandy » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:59 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:13 am
Harry Potts Way is always closed to vehicles on match day I think 2 hours before kick off.
The coaches park on the road.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by claretandy » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:00 am

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:47 am
????
The coaches park outside the Bob lord, less room to walk now.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Clovius Boofus » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:31 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:26 pm
You would think at least they would remove or amend the signs that say it will take 6 weeks starting June 5th.
No, keep the sign there. It shows what a joke this has become.

When I can, I now go out of the way to avoid the gridlock, and haven't been into the town centre shopping centre for weeks. I wonder how much footfall has been lost...

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by ChrisG » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:01 am

Claretforever wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:28 pm
Having driven past there yesterday I’d say they’ll be lucky if they have it all finished this side of 2024, and I genuinely think that. It’s a mess, and the past 3 times I’ve gone past there now during normal working hours there has been nothing going on. No workers, no activity.

£6m? It sounds like there are some huge margins in there for it to be taking so long, or the contract isn’t watertight and dragging it out incurs more costs as opposed to penalties. Other than force majeure, it should be strict deadlines or penalties incurred which scale up the longer it takes.
Penalty clauses aren't allowed in most contracts. You can have liquidated damage clauses, however these need to be a genuine pre-estimate of the loss that will be incurred as a result of the delayed completion. Not sure how you would ascertain or calculate that loss in this instance?

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by summitclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:49 am

ChrisG wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:01 am
Penalty clauses aren't allowed in most contracts. You can have liquidated damage clauses, however these need to be a genuine pre-estimate of the loss that will be incurred as a result of the delayed completion. Not sure how you would ascertain or calculate that loss in this instance?

Loss of profits for the businesses directly affected for a start.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Corky » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:29 am

Come on guys. Us out of towners need pictures!!!

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by ChrisG » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:39 am

summitclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:49 am
Loss of profits for the businesses directly affected for a start.
If they aren't a direct party to the contract, I doubt that they can calculate LADs on that basis.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Falcon » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:16 pm

I don't know if already mentioned, but each time I drive round the 'roundabout' I notice that the matrix signs don't spell 'aqueduct' correctly.

Minor annoyance but the pedant in me is crying every time I see it.

See also: the road sign stating 'Harry Pots' is closed.
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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by mikeS » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:12 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:01 pm
Doesnt look like it'll be finished this side of Xmas to me
But which one?

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by pauliopaulio » Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:22 pm

Is the Culvert closed again?

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Loyalclaret » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:04 pm

Open one direction from roundabout towards turf at minute. It had been closed earlier in the week. Progress looks slow, I've driven down 10mins ago and walked down three times this week.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Tw@ » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:13 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:04 pm
Open one direction from roundabout towards turf at minute. It had been closed earlier in the week. Progress looks slow, I've driven down 10mins ago and walked down three times this week.
Absolute gridlock at peak times now if you travel from Cliviger side of town

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:44 pm

They could have built the Taj Mahal in the time this has taken.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by JR1882 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:03 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:01 pm
Doesnt look like it'll be finished this side of Xmas to me
Wasn’t the completion date Summer 2024?

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by jos » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:03 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:44 pm
They could have built the Taj Mahal in the time this has taken.
That took 22 years!

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Loyalclaret » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:09 pm

Yes, been a joke for a long time now. Motorway it's easier going Rossi Rd, Omerod Road is busy again.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Cabbage » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:12 pm

It’s an absolute joke and a waste of money. Keep being told how good it will be when it’s all finished. Shame the keirby hotel will still be there.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:41 pm

jos wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:03 pm
That took 22 years!
I reckon they’ll beat it by around 3 weeks
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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by summitclaret » Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:05 pm

They haven't a clue how to do rolling do roadworks. Far too much of Yorkshire Street being cordoned off at the same time. Belvedere Road amd Todmorden Road still down to one lane at the junction just so the temporary lights can be in place.

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Re: Culvert work starting

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:08 pm

6 million quid does seem excessive to widen a few paths and take out a roundabout that was never a problem, unless I'm missing something. Not to mention the disruption its caused for months on end.

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