World cup thread

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:51 pm

VARcical

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:52 pm

Farce Var

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:52 pm

I think they need to bin VAR immediately after this game.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:53 pm

How to absolutely ruin a game of football....

VAR

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:54 pm

This 2nd half has been mental.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:55 pm

VAR being judged in Moscow.
What could go wrong?

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:56 pm

Noooooo
How did he miss that?

Can you imagine Rinaldo's bottom lip if that had gone in?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:56 pm

What is actually going on here?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:57 pm

Oh he blew the whistle, bye Iran cheating focks

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:57 pm

I'm starting to like var

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:57 pm

KRBFC wrote:What is actually going on here?

Not really sure anyone does.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

Why are Iran players crying? they knew they needed a win but didn't try to win

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

So he was offside and Morocco get dumped out due to cheating FIFa.

Massive supporter of VAR but he was offside.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:59 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why are Iran players crying? they knew they needed a win but didn't try to win

Are you portuguese?

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:02 pm

Portugal v Uruguay is going to involve some top quality diving and feigning injury.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:03 pm

aggi wrote:Portugal v Uruguay is going to involve some top quality diving and feigning injury.

i think the word you're looking for is 'ballet'.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:06 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:So he was offside and Morocco get dumped out due to cheating FIFa.

Massive supporter of VAR but he was offside.

Morocco were out before tonight's games, Aspas wasn't offside either.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:07 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:So he was offside and Morocco get dumped out due to cheating FIFa.

Massive supporter of VAR but he was offside.

No Spanish player was onside just.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:08 pm

Well that lot was worth a look wasn’t it, never a dull moment there

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:10 pm

It's now the 2018 VAR CUP
Hurrah!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:10 pm

Just goes to show that VAR will not help a terrible referee who is incapable of interpreting the rules of the game. They need to bin this off but unfortunately we're past the point of no return. The game has practically been ruined.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:15 pm

Rileybobs nails it.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:15 pm

Spain should of been down to 10 men in the first half. Not sure how var worked there

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:17 pm

It all seems a little fixed to me

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:18 pm

Damo wrote:Spain should of been down to 10 men in the first half. Not sure how var worked there

Yes their no3 with a two footed special with studs showing.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:20 pm

Damo wrote:Spain should of been down to 10 men in the first half. Not sure how var worked there

Yeah. Either referees have been misapplying the two feet off the ground rule for years, or VAR was wrong. I was surprised he wasn't sent off.

However, maybe it wasn't clear enough to overturn and had the ref initially sent him off VAR would have still decided it wasn't clear enough to confirm or overturn it.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:21 pm

KRBFC wrote:It all seems a little fixed to me

These two games seemed a bit like it.
Moscow VAR deciding the Ruskis next game.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:21 pm

Just read the updates on this thread... just WOW..! I thought Iran played some nice football, a little naive at times but played well. The histrionics on here do bring into question whether there are undertones of another issue - Iran’s attempts to influence the ref are nothing compared to what Ronaldo et al do all the time.

I actually wanted Iran to win that just to see Ronaldo in tears...

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Just goes to show that VAR will not help a terrible referee who is incapable of interpreting the rules of the game. They need to bin this off but unfortunately we're past the point of no return. The game has practically been ruined.

The onfield officials have been totally undermined by some ludicrous decisions made by some bloke looking at a TV screen miles away from the action. Once the referee is told he has to refer to VAR he is put on the spot because it is FIFA's new toy and is another tool in their quest to remove physical contact from the game and to ensure that every handball is penalised. The officials are employed by FIFA so if their decision is questioned by VAR they just have to realise that they must go with the VAR otherwise they are out of a job.

The game tonight was made almost impossible to officiate because of all the cheating that was going on with the players of both sides and the constant use of VAR which we could have done without.

The game which was once good to watch and had everything a game of football should have is now changing beyond recognition, however, it seems that this is what the modern fan wants so, inevitably, it will move more and more towards being a game which nobody over the age of 40 will recognise.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:21 pm

"some bloke"

Jesus wept.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:29 pm

Portugal robbed of a place in the easier half of the draw. Varsical. I would have been devastated for them if Iran got that late goal to knock them out.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:34 pm

Here's what a Moroccan player thinks of VAR

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taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:36 pm

Iran's penalty was an absolute joke of a decision and reflects so badly on the entire VAR process. The ref rightly didn't give it, there was no clear and obvious error to prompt a review yet a review was triggered and then incredibly the referee gave the penalty no doubt feeling pressure brought on by the decision to review. Appalling set of circumstances that could have had big consequences.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:39 pm

Am I right in thinking a player has to deliberately handle the ball in the box for a penalty to be awarded?

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:40 pm

“The modern fan”

Unfortunately this is now a person sat on a couch watching tv. TV been footballs favourite format for watching.

They also should add “C” to make it VARC. Because the word “controversy” seems to always follow it.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:45 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Portugal robbed of a place in the easier half of the draw. Varsical. I would have been devastated for them if Iran got that late goal to knock them out.

What was the injustice?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:51 pm

taio wrote:Iran's penalty was an absolute joke of a decision and reflects so badly on the entire VAR process. The ref rightly didn't give it, there was no clear and obvious error to prompt a review yet a review was triggered and then incredibly the referee gave the penalty no doubt feeling pressure brought on by the decision to review. Appalling set of circumstances that could have had big consequences.

I'd be 100% in favour of VAR if it was the choice of the ref (only the ref) to refer to it if he chose.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:53 pm

ecc wrote:Am I right in thinking a player has to deliberately handle the ball in the box for a penalty to be awarded?

I thought it was always ''deliberate handball'' yet penalties have always been given for the ball hitting the hand regardless of the players intentions then people say ''Yes it's a penalty, his arm is in an unnatural position''. If a player sticks his arm out towards the ball, he deliberately handled the ball, if his arms naturally ends up there when he moves his body he doesn't deliberately handle the ball. That's my opinion at least but who actually knows what the rule is

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What was the injustice?

Guess

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:00 pm

Latest version of FIFA's Laws of the Game

Handling the ball

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the
ball with the hand or arm.

The following must be considered:
•
the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
•
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
•
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:14 pm

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Well that’s the closest I’ve been to swearing on live TV! What I really wanted to say is that VAR is complete and utter ********!! #IranPortugal #VAR #RussiaWorldCup2018

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:23 pm

Initially the referee did'nt think it was a penalty. Then after consulting VAR I'm convinced he still didn't think it was a penalty, and yet he gave it.

Quite where we go from there I don't know, but trialling this new system on the biggest stage in the world was a massive mistake.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:25 pm

KRBFC wrote:Guess

Would be a lot easier if someone just told me.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:27 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Initially the referee did'nt think it was a penalty. Then after consulting VAR I'm convinced he still didn't think it was a penalty, and yet he gave it.

Quite where we go from there I don't know, but trialling this new system on the biggest stage in the world was a massive mistake.

I don’t think many will disagree with that RBC?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:29 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Initially the referee did'nt think it was a penalty. Then after consulting VAR I'm convinced he still didn't think it was a penalty, and yet he gave it.

Quite where we go from there I don't know, but trialling this new system on the biggest stage in the world was a massive mistake.

He had a perfect view, to me it seems the real referee is the one reviewing the decisions in the studio. The on field referee is the puppet to face backlash.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:32 pm

I thought that there were four looking at VAR.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:33 pm

I think Ronaldo would have walked if he'd not been Ronaldo. Not that his offence was as life-threatening as the Iranian bloke made it out to be. It wasn't a penalty at the end but, IMHO, it was a case of compensation.

The whole thing is a farce. Ironically, Platini was always against using video technology and I thought he was wrong. But I bet he's having a right good chortle at the moment.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:33 pm

Var was only meant to clear up obvious mistakes, like the Serbia non-penalty for instance.

And what do we get?

Decisions which might, might not be red cards, penalties etc. being referred or otherwise.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:36 pm

I think it should be used only for offsides once the ball is in the net, too much opinion going into these naff decisions. The referee wouldn't need to look at a screen, the guy in the studio would say ''he's offside goal disallowed'' or ''he's onside goal stands'', plain simple facts.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:43 pm

South West Claret. wrote:I thought that there were four looking at VAR.

You are correct.