Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[ClaretTony]

I think the squad of 25 is limited to 17 non British ie having spent less than 3 years with an English or Welsh club and any number of home grown players who are under 21 years of age on january 1st of the upcoming season so for 21-22 season they have to be under 21 on Jan 1st 2021. But I may be wrong and if he reads this CT will post the correct rules

It's nothing to do with whether players are British but how long they've spent at English clubs. For example, Chris Wood is not British but is home grown having been with an English club from the age of 16. To be considered home grown, you have to have spent three years with English clubs up to the age of 21. That means a lot of British players wouldn't be considered home grown if they have spent that time with, for example, Scottish clubs.

In the second half of last season we had just three non home grown players in JBG, Pieters & Vydra.

[NewClaret]

According to the Daily Mail, we're interested in Swansea City right back Connor Roberts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... berts.html

Interesting one. Is he any good? Can’t say I’ve watched him closely.

On Kenny, he was not well received by Celtic fans. If we were ever in for him, it sounds like we dodged a bullet and Everton made a mistake not cashing in more cheaply.

[williamjblazkowicz]

Interesting one. Is he any good? Can’t say I’ve watched him closely.

On Kenny, he was not well received by Celtic fans. If we were ever in for him, it sounds like we dodged a bullet and Everton made a mistake not cashing in more cheaply.

Honestly, I'm not sure I've ever heard of him. I'm increasingly less and less enthused by football and don't watch it as much these days. Only really keep an eye on Burnley! Hopefully someone else can add a little more input than me! What I would say is that, according to Wikipedia, he's scored 11 goals in 133 games for Swansea City. That seems decent to me for a right back. Not exactly sure how they've used him though. Ie whether he's been getting forward a fair bit or been on free kicks or whatever.

[SalisburyClaret]

According to the Daily Mail, we're interested in Swansea City right back Connor Roberts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... berts.html

That will be the same Connor Roberts who played pretty poorly for Wales at the Euros - looked like the weakest link in their team in each game. Gets forward ok but defensively poor

[williamjblazkowicz]

That will be the same Connor Roberts who played pretty poorly for Wales at the Euros - looked like the weakest link in their team in each game. Gets forward ok but defensively poor

If he is indeed defensively poor then I can't think of a better manager and system for him!

[RVclaret]

Like the look of Roberts and at a good age to improve under Dyche. 5 goals and 7 assists from wing back last year for Swansea...

[Murger]

Do we really need any more defenders?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I really like Robert’s.

Was one of Swansea’s best players last season. He would improve us

[Murger]

I really like Robert’s.

Was one of Swansea’s best players last season. He would improve us

Then we'd have 4 right backs. I wouldn't call it an area of concern.

[jedi_master]

Then we'd have 4 right backs. I wouldn't call it an area of concern.

Southgate would disagree

[Vegas Claret]

given he only has one year left on his contract, given Bardo can't go on forever it's something we need to address but surely to goodness a right winger has to be the number one priority

[Newcastleclaret93]

given he only has one year left on his contract, given Bardo can't go on forever it's something we need to address but surely to goodness a right winger has to be the number one priority

Over 30 of his appearances last season were at Right midfield.

He fits perfectly into our squad for me. Can play Rb and Rm and is just about to hit the peak of his career.

Would love it if we signed him.

[randomclaret2]

Nixon simply said " No" when asked if we're interested in Roberts

[jojomk1]

According to the Daily Mail, we're interested in Swansea City right back Connor Roberts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... berts.html

Would rather we were showing an interest in Conor Gallagher to get some pace and steel into our midfield

This guy will certainly end up at another club next season (based on some good performances for West Brom last year)

[Vegas Claret]

Would rather we were showing an interest in Conor Gallagher to get some pace and steel into our midfield

This guy will certainly end up at another club next season (based on some good performances for West Brom last year)

I'd rather we try and get Matheus Pereira than a loan player but doubt we will have the $$$$ for it

[Vegas Claret]

Roberts has been ruled out for 3 months through injury

[Hedontplayforyou]

Rule that one out then.

[TheOriginalLongsider]

Just on Roberts scoring that Wales 2nd goal against Turkey in injury time. As a defender what the hell was he doing in that position with seconds to go and already winning 1-0?

[boatshed bill]

I see Billy Gilmour is going to Norwich on loan

[NewClaret]

I see Billy Gilmour is going to Norwich on loan

Will likely do very well for them but not for me.

I’d like to think as a club we’re reaching a level where we don’t need to loan other clubs players, both because we’re able to afford our own targets and also have enough quality in our own academy players that should get preference.

[boatshed bill]

Will likely do very well for them but not for me.

I’d like to think as a club we’re reaching a level where we don’t need to loan other clubs players, both because we’re able to afford our own targets and also have enough quality in our own academy players that should get preference.

Interesting view of our academy players.
I saw all their televised games last season (bar one) and didn't see a single midfielder close to Gilmour's quality.

however I do agree with you in principle.

[Vegas Claret]

Just on Roberts scoring that Wales 2nd goal against Turkey in injury time. As a defender what the hell was he doing in that position with seconds to go and already winning 1-0?

scored 5 this season I think, as Newcastlle pointed out above he played a lot on the right wing

[timshorts]

Just on Roberts scoring that Wales 2nd goal against Turkey in injury time. As a defender what the hell was he doing in that position with seconds to go and already winning 1-0?

It was probably going to come down to goal difference. That proved true enough. Unfortunately, it did in the Denmark group too......

[tiger76]

I see Billy Gilmour is going to Norwich on loan

Yes a good move for both, Gilmour will get regular PL footy at Norwich, and the Canaries will get a promising player who should fit into their footballing philosophy, already Norwich are displaying more intent in the market then on their last PL visit, Gibson & Gilmour are decent captures that should serve them well in their likely relegation fight.

Now whether BG would have fitted into our system I don't know, but he's a talented individual of that there's no doubt, and his Wembley appearance showed that he's not phased by the big occasions despite his lack of 1st team experience for Chelsea he run the show against a very good England midfield which has nullified most other teams throughout this tournament.

[boatshed bill]

Yes a good move for both, Gilmour will get regular PL footy at Norwich, and the Canaries will get a promising player who should fit into their footballing philosophy, already Norwich are displaying more intent in the market then on their last PL visit, Gibson & Gilmour are decent captures that should serve them well in their likely relegation fight.

Now whether BG would have fitted into our system I don't know, but he's a talented individual of that there's no doubt, and his Wembley appearance showed that he's not phased by the big occasions despite his lack of 1st team experience for Chelsea he run the show against a very good England midfield which has nullified most other teams throughout this tournament.

They may get the option to buy, not sure though.
I think he'd have been a fine addition to our midfield, let's face it we need 8 as a minimum with perm any two from eight injured at any time.

[tiger76]

Not Burnley related, but the 1st big transfer of the Summer, England's Jordan Sancho going to OT for £73m, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57673463

[tiger76]

They may get the option to buy, not sure though.
I think he'd have been a fine addition to our midfield, let's face it we need 8 as a minimum with perm any two from eight injured at any time.

I like most people haven't seen much of Gilmour, but we desperately need a creative type in the middle, Cork & Westwood battle away manfully and work their socks off every game, but their lack of quality is brutally exposed at times, and neither is getting any younger, so yes we do need younger legs in the centre, how often have teams simply cut through our midfield and poured forwards to score, that's been an issue for a couple of seasons now, and it badly needs addressing in this window, would Gilmour have been the answer to that problem I don't know, but he'd have been a useful addition especially on a loan deal, Norwich may have an option to buy, but I guess much will depend on whether they maintain their PL place this time or not.

[ClaretAL]

Just a few doing the rounds...

https://tbrfootball.com/aston-villa-tra ... nley-star/

https://sportslens.com/aston-villa-keep ... ll/368762/

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/respected ... ght-mcneil

[Stayingup]

Meantime, Man U Chelsea and probabaly loney bags city are lining up £80 million transfers. Just not cricket!!!

And not one of them founder members of the football League.

[Spijed]

Is this guy worth looking at, perhaps as a replacement for Barnes or Jay-Rod?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57666280

[Tall Paul]

Is this guy worth looking at, perhaps as a replacement for Barnes or Jay-Rod?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57666280

Another ageing player? No thanks, we need youth.

[williamjblazkowicz]

It would never, ever happen but just imagine the absolute pandemonium if Messi chose Burnley FC

[Claret Toni]

Is this guy worth looking at, perhaps as a replacement for Barnes or Jay-Rod?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57666280

We need to be looking at players who can walk straight into the starting 11, not just bench warmers. Is he Dyche fit?

[Claret_tinted]

I’ve just seen a former left footed BFC midfielder driving out of Morecambe stadium carpark in his Audi R8.

[wilks_bfc]

I’ve just seen a former left footed BFC midfielder driving out of Morecambe stadium carpark in his Audi R8.

I always thought Eyres was more of a Vauxhall driver

[beddie]

I’ve just seen a former left footed BFC midfielder driving out of Morecambe stadium carpark in his Audi R8.

I couldn’t even afford the road tax on that car never mind the actual running costs.

[claretandy]

Mumbongo joins Stanley on a season long loan.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... s-for-reds

[Bigvince]

Mumbongo joins Stanley on a season long loan.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... s-for-reds

That seems like a good move for the lad, let’s hope regular football helps his development

[Claret_tinted]

I couldn’t even afford the road tax on that car never mind the actual running costs.

He might not given he’s moving to Morecambe and their finances

[kentonclaret]

Meantime, Man U Chelsea and probabaly loney bags city are lining up £80 million transfers. Just not cricket!!!

And not one of them founder members of the football League.

That huge thud was the sound of those who repeatedly told us that even the bigger clubs would be reluctant to splash the cash in this Summer transfer window crashing back down to earth.

[gandhisflipflop]

Mumbongo joins Stanley on a season long loan.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... s-for-reds

Puts into perspective the state of our bench last season.

[Goobs]

Puts into perspective the state of our bench last season.

Hence the new dugouts.

[Hipper]

Yes a good move for both, Gilmour will get regular PL footy at Norwich, and the Canaries will get a promising player who should fit into their footballing philosophy, already Norwich are displaying more intent in the market then on their last PL visit, Gibson & Gilmour are decent captures that should serve them well in their likely relegation fight.

Now whether BG would have fitted into our system I don't know, but he's a talented individual of that there's no doubt, and his Wembley appearance showed that he's not phased by the big occasions despite his lack of 1st team experience for Chelsea he run the show against a very good England midfield which has nullified most other teams throughout this tournament.

Surely they are just replacing Buendia with someone of less known quality.

[Mattster]

Surely they are just replacing Buendia with someone of less known quality.

Gilmour and Buendia aren't similar players. Gilmour is more likely a replacement for Oliver Skipp who they had on loan from Spurs last season.

Milot Rashica is their Buendia replacement, I think. You are right that he would be lesser quality though Norwich are generally very good at recruitment so he may turn out to be a really good fit for the EPL and a good replacement.

[Hibsclaret]

Norwich are that good at recruiting that they keep bouncing between divisions and not managing to stay beyond a couple of seasons, imagine if they managed 6.

[Mattster]

Norwich are that good at recruiting that they keep bouncing between divisions and not managing to stay beyond a couple of seasons, imagine if they managed 6.

Nice try but Stuart Webber was appointed Sporting Director at Norwich in 2017 and appointed Farke. Since then their trajectory has mirrored Dyche's Burnley ie. Midtable-Promotion-Relegation-Promotion.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Nice try but Stuart Webber was appointed Sporting Director at Norwich in 2017 and appointed Farke. Since then their trajectory has mirrored Dyche's Burnley ie. Midtable-Promotion-Relegation-Promotion.

So they are as good as us as recruitment. Providing they stay up this season, and then follow it up with 2 top 10 finishes and qualify for Europe

[Mattster]

So they are as good as us as recruitment. Providing they stay up this season, and then follow it up with 2 top 10 finishes and qualify for Europe

Did I say we were bad, or worse even, at recruitment? Or did I simply say that Norwich were good at it?

[claretonthecoast1882]

Did I say we were bad, or worse even, at recruitment? Or did I simply say that Norwich were good at it?

I didn't say you had. You compared them by saying they have mirrored us with their good recruitment.

[Mattster]

I didn't say you had. You compared them by saying they have mirrored us with their good recruitment.

In response to Hibsclarets bizarre suggestion that their yo yo nature over the past decade or so was somehow reflective of/relevant to the quality of their current rectruitment.

And then you came out with the nonsense that they could only be as good as us if they replicate our exact achievements over the next few years. Like individual recruitment is the only single factor in achievement. Ignoring management, the other teams in the league etc.

And what prompted this pointless sojourn was simply me saying Norwich are "generally very good at recruitment" so Rashica may turn out to be a good signing. No criticism or even comment on Burnley's recruitment.