Britt Assombalonga

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:10 am

joey13 wrote:Yes because happen I have a better idea than you or our useless recruitment team.

This is the useless recruitment team that has recruited a squad good enough to stay in the PL last season?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:16 am

Tall Paul wrote:This is the useless recruitment team that has recruited a squad good enough to stay in the PL last season?

And about to start our third season out of the last four in the Premier league.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:22 am

ablueclaret wrote:Give Forest a 10 day deadline then forget him, no time for messing about on this one good player though he is.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:25 am

Which has also just recruited arguably the best left back outside the premier league?
With previous form of recruiting the next up and coming centre half , that went on to play for England which in turn means That has just been sold for a fee that could
Rise to 30m!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:38 am

MACCA wrote:Which has also just recruited arguably the best left back outside the premier league?
With previous form of recruiting the next up and coming centre half , that went on to play for England which in turn means That has just been sold for a fee that could
Rise to 30m!

Yeah, but that aside... just what have the recruitment team ever done for us...?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 am

Have to say they're a curates egg of a recruitment team.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 am

Why is it when you get a stalker its always an internet shithouse and never anyone interesting

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:52 am

Last stalker that made weird comments on our business page tried to pass himself off as General McChrystal, the Commander in Chief in Afghanistan.

Made a change from ablue for sure!

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:54 am

Haha think the nearest this one got to an army was the Salvation one

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:56 am

claretdom wrote:Haha think the nearest this one got to an army was the Salvation one

No chance he's beyond salvation

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:58 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Yeah, but that aside... just what have the recruitment team ever done for us...?

The recruitment have done nothing for us......well except sign an England GK on a free transfer. But apart from that what have the recruitment done for us?

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:00 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:The recruitment have done nothing for us......well except sign an England GK on a free transfer. But apart from that what have the recruitment done for us?

Not mentioning a significant profit on Michael Keane....

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:00 am

Well this thread got very weird very quickly.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:02 am

This has all the hallmarks of a Henri Lansbury saga, Persue him for a couple of seasons and then not sign him.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:02 am

JFW

I blame FIFA, FM and the sea air.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:15 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:JFW

I blame FIFA, FM and the sea air.

There's no sea air in Nottingham or Burnley for that matter

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:17 am

ExistentialWanderer wrote:Not mentioning a significant profit on Michael Keane....

Right aside from turning a free transfer into an England international, and turning a huge profit on another England international what have the recruitment team done for us?

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:18 am

Firthy wrote:There's no sea air in Nottingham or Burnley for that matter

Give it 50 years and Burnley could be a coastal resort

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:25 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Right aside from turning a free transfer into an England international, and turning a huge profit on another England international what have the recruitment team done for us?

That left back we signed think he's called Ward has done alright.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:33 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:That left back we signed think he's called Ward has done alright.

Right aside from turning a free transfer into an England international, and turning a huge profit on another England international, and getting Ward on a cheap as chips deal what have the recruitment team done for us?

whalleyclaret · Post by **whalleyclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:04 am

Following the Lansbury farce / saga with them over a number of years is there any point trying to buy a player off Forest at all?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:15 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Right aside from turning a free transfer into an England international, and turning a huge profit on another England international what have the recruitment team done for us?

And got Ben Mee on the cheap.

Three (including this season) out of the last four spent in the Premier league suggests that our recruitment team are far better than most clubs in football, especially when you look at who has been relegated or which teams are struggling to get back up, whilst we spend less in comparison.

Our successes far outweigh any failures we've had. No club is perfect, yet we are closer than most, if not all.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:20 am

Can't believe people are already moaning 5 days into the window.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:22 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Can't believe people are already moaning 5 days into the window.

Have you not visited Turf Moor?

People moaned when we won the Championship. It will never change my friend.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:37 am

The only people that moaned when we won the Championship worked for Sky or the football league
Even on the last day when we were nailed on to be champions with 10 mins to go at Charlton they still has the trophy up at Teeside

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:59 am

a few posters missing the Monty Python reference I fear...

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:54 pm

The only criticism I would have of the Recruitment Team would be their European scouting.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:55 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:a few posters missing the Monty Python reference I fear...

Not me. One of my favourite movies. I just chose to overlook it.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:00 pm

I've absolutely no criticism of the signings we've made in the Dyche era, because the vast majority of it has worked out well, but since that first summer and the second winter window when we identified and signed Heaton, Jones, Arfield and Barnes for next to nothing, I think it is fair to say our business has generally tended towards the obvious. The signings we've made (including Michael Keane) might very well have been heavily featured on messageboard threads in which posters have suggested potential targets - indeed the only players I can think of that we've signed who haven't been suggested in that fashion are Hemmings and Ulvestad. Assombalonga is another example of that trend.

That does suggest that our recruitment team isn't particularly creative or imaginative, although of course there have been plenty of mitigating factors. Given that we seem to struggle (not unreasonably) with some of the fees quoted for Championship players, it does seem about time that our recruitment became a bit broader based.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:03 pm

claretspice wrote:I've absolutely no criticism of the signings we've made in the Dyche era, because the vast majority of it has worked out well, but since that first summer and the second winter window when we identified and signed Heaton, Jones, Arfield and Barnes for next to nothing, I think it is fair to say our business has generally tended towards the obvious. The signings we've made (including Michael Keane) might very well have been heavily featured on messageboard threads in which posters have suggested potential targets - indeed the only players I can think of that we've signed who haven't been suggested in that fashion are Hemmings and Ulvestad. Assombalonga is another example of that trend.

That does suggest that our recruitment team isn't particularly creative or imaginative, although of course there have been plenty of mitigating factors. Given that we seem to struggle (not unreasonably) with some of the fees quoted for Championship players, it does seem about time that our recruitment became a bit broader based.

In short. You think we need to improve our international scouting system.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:04 pm

Spice - it could be that our recruitment team also post on this message board discretely to garner a feel for public opinion before proceeding to their targets, after all they have to keep the fans happy...

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:07 pm

Quite possibly the funniest post I've read Muller

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:12 pm

ExistentialWanderer wrote:In short. You think we need to improve our international scouting system.

Partly that, but partly actually our scouting of the lower leagues, too. Apart from Darikwa, who we signed after a pre-season friendly against Chesterfield in which he impressed lots of people, I can't think of an example of us taking a player from the bottom couple of divisions and making something of him in the Dyche era, with the exception of the limited period when McParland was involved and (I think) we signed the likes of Agyei. These players don't necessarily have to have immediate impact, but they're the rough diamonds who come through over a couple of years - like Harry Maguire did at Hull, for example.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:17 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Spice - it could be that our recruitment team also post on this message board discretely to garner a feel for public opinion before proceeding to their targets, after all they have to keep the fans happy...

May get a few bites but not the best attempt.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:18 pm

Whose Hemmings?

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:22 pm

claretspice wrote:Partly that, but partly actually our scouting of the lower leagues, too. Apart from Darikwa, who we signed after a pre-season friendly against Chesterfield in which he impressed lots of people, I can't think of an example of us taking a player from the bottom couple of divisions and making something of him in the Dyche era, with the exception of the limited period when McParland was involved and (I think) we signed the likes of Agyei. These players don't necessarily have to have immediate impact, but they're the rough diamonds who come through over a couple of years - like Harry Maguire did at Hull, for example.

I'd argue Spice and of most posters on here I hold your opinion in quite high regard. I am sure, with the finances and set up we have at our disposal our lower league 'eyes' so to speak is probably quite good. Not suggesting good enough but we certainly can build on that here and abroad. I think people need to realise we need to learn to walk again before we can run. It's been a long time since this club even started to walk again. Baby steps bud, but I do understand your view.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:32 pm

ExistentialWanderer wrote:I'd argue Spice and of most posters on here I hold your opinion in quite high regard. I am sure, with the finances and set up we have at our disposal our lower league 'eyes' so to speak is probably quite good. Not suggesting good enough but we certainly can build on that here and abroad. I think people need to realise we need to learn to walk again before we can run. It's been a long time since this club even started to walk again. Baby steps bud, but I do understand your view.

Don't disagree with any of that (except perhaps apart from my views being held in high regard

). It is an evolution and certainly a couple of years ago the emphasis had to be on spending our resources on players who would hit the ground immediately. But, for example, Hull have lifted both Clucas and Maguire from League 1 in the last 3 years and will make £30 million from them this summer. Maguire might have been before we got rich, but Clucas wasn't and I'd like to see us begin to add depth in certain positions by pinching those sosrts of players.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:42 pm

claretspice wrote:Don't disagree with any of that (except perhaps apart from my views being held in high regard ). It is an evolution and certainly a couple of years ago the emphasis had to be on spending our resources on players who would hit the ground immediately. But, for example, Hull have lifted both Clucas and Maguire from League 1 in the last 3 years and will make £30 million from them this summer. Maguire might have been before we got rich, but Clucas wasn't and I'd like to see us begin to add depth in certain positions by pinching those sosrts of players.

Hopefully our Academy Status will improve standards and as you say. In time, we'll find that next Clucas and Maguire. It says heaps about how delapidated we let it get that Hull stole a march on us. TBH I think Forest Green Rovers could have the way we were. Onwards and upwards.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:19 pm

Article by Gary Birtles:

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Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:26 pm

Always nice of Gary to take time away from the pub to "write" his regular column for the Nottingham Post.

Lord have mercy on whoever has to write it up for him.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:36 pm

Notice Birtles failed to mention that he used to play for Nottm. Forest.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:40 pm

Our failure to recruit from the Lower division and Scotland has been sticking out like a sore thumb for some considerable time.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:45 pm

Nah its your overwhelming happiness that sticks out abc.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:51 pm

Ablue, have you a list of the outstanding Scottish talent that we have missed out on?
And maybe some names we should be following up on right now?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:18 pm

ExistentialWanderer wrote:Give it 50 years and Burnley could be a coastal resort

In 50 years Burnley could be a lake!

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:00 pm

IanMcL wrote:In 50 years Burnley could be a lake!

I've already booked my retirement spot. Retirement spot....bloody hell! If I am alive in 50 years medicine will have come along drastically!

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 pm

If boro are willing to pay the 15 m for britt then we can whistle bye bye

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:59 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:If boro are willing to pay the 15 m for britt then we can whistle bye bye

We could go to that.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:00 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:If boro are willing to pay the 15 m for britt then we can whistle bye bye

Assuming he wanted to go.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:00 pm

boatshed bill wrote:We could go to that.

Do you actually think we would ?