Game of Thrones S7

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:07 pm

Holy **** what a great episode, just got up to date! In my defence I've been in kings Landing all week.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:37 am

That one sets things up nicely for the last two. Still don't know how it'll be pulled together yet.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:51 pm

Ok, I concede, the last two episodes have been incredible.
What a motley crew they've got now!

StanBFC · Post by **StanBFC** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:31 pm

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:42 pm

Could well be the final countdown for 2 of three major characters to go by the end of the season. I think a lot of leading us down certain routes was going on tonight, more obvious than they have been - which of course could flip in unexpected ways just as quickly... I'll almost be more shocked if they don't twist out of kilter again.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:09 pm

Fair play lads, I've changed my mind.

They've brought it back with this season so far.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:57 pm

dany will die and fall off a dragon.

jon will ruefully look at her corpse, get on the dragon and win.

then the white walkers.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:45 am

Episode 6 aired by mistake for an hour in Spain, so should be put online soon.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:29 pm

Brilliant that HBO Spain have usurped the hackers, threatening to leak episodes early, by doing it themselves.

I've seen it, it isn't hard to find if you look through twitter and I'll be making no comment (so as not to spoil anything) other than to say it's going to be a swine waiting almost two weeks for the series finale.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:16 pm

Am watching it now.
I can only say OH MY F******G GOD!

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:13 pm

Just finished watching it.

Not a bad little episode !!

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:06 am

Episode 6 was epiiiiic

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:50 am

Jon and Tormund's forever-fight over the definition of "The North" continues to amuse.

"Down south the air smells like pig ****"
"You've never been down South"
"I've been to Winterfell"
"That's the North"

SonofPog · Post by **SonofPog** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:07 pm

E6 - one of the best and worst episodes.

But seeing the night king take down a dragon had me genuinely shocked and upset. Straight after, I thought, can he raise Viserion?, the last scene was like, oh sheeeee.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:58 pm

Why didn't the 3rd dragon not pick Jon up.
How did Jon get out of that lake.
Why couldn't Uncle Benjen not just jump on the horse too.
Why is Arya reverting to being a brat.

However I'm nitpicking. Brilliantly shot episode full of excitement and a biiig 'ooohh shiiiiit' moment at the end.

And now for the inevitable 'does an ice dragon breathe fire or ice?' discussion/argument...

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:37 pm

Thanks for the update Falcon. No need for me to watching at 9pm tonight now..

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:40 pm

Claret Till I Die wrote:Thanks for the update Falcon. No need for me to watching at 9pm tonight now..

You opened the thread before watching the latest episode, an episode which has previously aired? You've only got yourself to blame.

SonofPog · Post by **SonofPog** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:49 pm

Falcon wrote:Why didn't the 3rd dragon not pick Jon up.
How did Jon get out of that lake.
Why couldn't Uncle Benjen not just jump on the horse too.
Why is Arya reverting to being a brat.

However I'm nitpicking......

Pretty much, file alongside the fact that, Gendry can run back to the wall, a raven can fly from the wall to dragon stone, Dany can then fly all the way north, and locate the exact sport. All in a night apparently. There's speeding up the plot and then there's S7 GOT

Also, if the Night King has javelins and a mean arm, why not just ping a couple as they all stood around for the night?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:51 pm

SonofPog wrote:Pretty much, file alongside the fact that, Gendry can run back to the wall, a raven can fly from the wall to dragon stone, Dany can then fly all the way north, and locate the exact sport. All in a night apparently. There's speeding up the plot and then there's S7 GOT

Also, if the Night King has javelins and a mean arm, why not just ping a couple as they all stood around for the night?

Pretty sure it was more than one night.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Well I'm impressed with today's episode.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:42 pm

Great episode - as the penultimate one of the season, there must be a huge old cliff hanger next week. Then a bloody year to wait for what will hopefully be a final season of feature length episodes.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:45 pm

DCWat wrote:Then a bloody year to wait for what will hopefully be a final season of feature length episodes.

Agreed!!!

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:29 pm

Falcon wrote:Why didn't the 3rd dragon not pick Jon up.
How did Jon get out of that lake.
Why couldn't Uncle Benjen not just jump on the horse too.
Why is Arya reverting to being a brat.

However I'm nitpicking. Brilliantly shot episode full of excitement and a biiig 'ooohh shiiiiit' moment at the end.

And now for the inevitable 'does an ice dragon breathe fire or ice?' discussion/argument...

I think Arya and Sansa are playing Littlefinger at his own game, I think his days are numbered.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:17 pm

Impressive action but I also agree with the people who are saying it's gone all Hollywood. In the past, inescapable situations were precisely that.

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And again, why on earth would zombies be scared of water??

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:24 pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:48 am

Sure. Because i'm sure bridge technology is out of reach for the White Walkers

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:33 am

This is the funniest Preston Jacobs video yet.

Episode Six - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqOf0qI2H4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:49 am

And one more nitpick before I shut up, where did the WWs get some bloody big chains from in the desolate north?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:15 am

Falcon wrote:And one more nitpick before I shut up, where did the WWs get some bloody big chains from in the desolate north?

And how did they attach them if they are afraid of water?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:48 am

The night king is just daft. He can hoy a javelin 2km quite easily, bring the dead back to life, block psychics and even put out fire with the stench from his feet. What's his next party piece going to be? Build a piece of ikea furniture without the instructions?

I'm surprised that he even needs a dragon the way it's been written. Why not just go whole hog and have him sprout wings and breathe fire himself? He seems to be able to do everything else.

I realise that they need a primary antagonist but for me it seems lazy to put everything in the hands of an individual.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:21 pm

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:03 pm

I've never seen GOT, as it got to the point where I thought it was too late to start watching it and I'd never catch up.

But this video is pretty cool - every murder drawn by hand:
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Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:04 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:And how did they attach them if they are afraid of water?

You hit the nail on the head with that one.

thelifeofbrian · Post by **thelifeofbrian** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:40 pm

that Raven was faster than Amazon Prime..........

Smallpaul · Post by **Smallpaul** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:54 pm

I must admit i'm a little disappointed that this highly intriguing, mystical plot driven show has now done away with all concept of plot. it looks spectacular but it's not the show it once was.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:20 pm

What has happened is GRRM has given the show writers the main points that happen (because they are past the books) and they have to connect the dots themselves. That's why it feels rushed, they just don't have enough time to flesh it out. The only real thing not rushed this season was the relationship between Jon and Dany.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:27 pm

The pacing is making it feel a bit more like a normal TV show and less like GoT and it is creating a few issues but I don't think the WW & water criticism mentioned here is actually a plot hole or a valid criticism. Skeletons aren't buoyant but probably more importantly the problem for the NK isn't so much the wall itself but the magic within it that prevents the reanimated army from passing, as Benjen mentioned to Bran in S6. Having a dragon could allow the NK to melt it down.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:35 pm

Spiral wrote:The pacing is making it feel a bit more like a normal TV show and less like GoT and it is creating a few issues but I don't think the WW & water criticism mentioned here is actually a plot hole or a valid criticism. Skeletons aren't buoyant but probably more importantly the problem for the NK isn't so much the wall itself but the magic within it that prevents the reanimated army from passing, as Benjen mentioned to Bran in S6. Having a dragon could allow the NK to melt it down.

I'm not sure the magic that prevents the Night King's army passing works any more. If it did then the Wight they captured wouldn't survive the trip south.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:39 pm

I was under the impression the magic worked in the vicinity of the wall. Benjen said something along the lines of "as long as the wall stands". I might need to watch the episode again to check but did the Hound not put the wight in a boat to take it south? I don't think the wight actually went under the wall.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:51 pm

Bran Stark is the Night King.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:57 pm

Spiral wrote:The pacing is making it feel a bit more like a normal TV show and less like GoT and it is creating a few issues but I don't think the WW & water criticism mentioned here is actually a plot hole or a valid criticism. Skeletons aren't buoyant but probably more importantly the problem for the NK isn't so much the wall itself but the magic within it that prevents the reanimated army from passing, as Benjen mentioned to Bran in S6. Having a dragon could allow the NK to melt it down.

Cannot see how the undead dragon could possibly breath fire - he's on ice's team now

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:49 am

elwaclaret wrote:Cannot see how the undead dragon could possibly breath fire - he's on ice's team now

Borderline baseless speculation ahead! (Possible spoilers)

Two major points for me: 1, The Wall being the single greatest obstacle for the Night King and his army in invading Westeros, (I'm still convinced the magic infused in The Wall still works because Benjen wasn't able to pass through it-I think Bran asked him to go with him in 6-10 but said he couldn't, being half-wight himself), and 2, how about that vision Dany had in the house of the undying in S2? We know Daenerys has no intention of nuking King's Landing. If that vision turns out to be a legit premonition is it possible that it is the Night King's work? Perhaps it will be Cersei's doing? I personally think Cersei would be finished before it ever came to that. There'd be something classically Shakespearean about Jamie protecting the city from his Mad Queen sister by becoming the Queenslayer. Ice dragons are obvious tenets of epic fantasy but fire-breathing walker-controlled Viserion would solve many of the Night King's problems and would go a long way to justifying the frozen lake stand off. NK being smart enough to bait a dragon (rather than merely chancing upon one) would solve a few of the last episode's plot holes, (e.g, why not just javelin Jon at the start, and waterLOL). Was this Night King 'alive' during the last long night that Sam talked about? Sam talked about defeating them "for good" last week which makes me think the NK has been in this warring business for a very, very, very long time. In which case you'd have to assume he isn't completely mindless.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:38 am

If the magic still worked then surely the captured Wight would die (again) when taken south. Benjen only thought the magic prevented him from going south of it. He has no reason to think anything has changed.

I agree that the Night King baited Dany, or simply knew what would happen, which would explain the chains. And it would be interesting to see the vision in the House of the Dying come true by the Night King trying to headshot his enemied by burning the Red Keep, Harrenhal-style. But i'm not even sure Wight Dragons breath fire. They probably do. We know from the horses they ride that the fleshy parts of the dead they raise can be preserved by the magic that reanimates them if needs be so it's probably true that the Night King can preserve a dragon's body well enough.

I'm no longer convinced that it'll be Jaime who kills Cersei in the show. I'm still confident that's how it'll go in the books though.

The Night King is something like 12,000 years old and is the first White Walker. The Children of the Forest created him to help defend themselves against the First Men. Bran is shown Leaf creating him by Bloodraven shortly before Bloodraven is killed in 'The Door'.

There was previous warring going on between the living and the dead which is why the Wall exists. Peace was brought about diplomatically (maybe) with the Night King and for all we know he and his people obeyed the terms of that peace. It might be that man is the aggressor and provoked this war. Maybe the free Folk did something. I think we'll find out why the Night King is advancing on the Wall in season 8 and i wouldn't be surprised if it was justified.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:42 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Peace was brought about diplomatically with the Night King and for all we know he and his people obeyed the terms of that peace.

Is this mentioned in the show or is it a book theory? I've completely missed it if it's in the show.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:55 am

No. Sorry. it's a theory that i think is true. I edited my post just now.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:19 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:If the magic still worked then surely the captured Wight would die (again) when taken south. Benjen only thought the magic prevented him from going south of it. He has no reason to think anything has changed.

I agree that the Night King baited Dany, or simply knew what would happen, which would explain the chains. And it would be interesting to see the vision in the House of the Dying come true by the Night King trying to headshot his enemied by burning the Red Keep, Harrenhal-style. But i'm not even sure Wight Dragons breath fire. They probably do. We know from the horses they ride that the fleshy parts of the dead they raise can be preserved by the magic that reanimates them if needs be so it's probably true that the Night King can preserve a dragon's body well enough.

I'm no longer convinced that it'll be Jaime who kills Cersei in the show. I'm still confident that's how it'll go in the books though.

The Night King is something like 12,000 years old and is the first White Walker. The Children of the Forest created him to help defend themselves against the First Men. Bran is shown Leaf creating him by Bloodraven shortly before Bloodraven is killed in 'The Door'.

There was previous warring going on between the living and the dead which is why the Wall exists. Peace was brought about diplomatically (maybe) with the Night King and for all we know he and his people obeyed the terms of that peace. It might be that man is the aggressor and provoked this war. Maybe the free Folk did something. I think we'll find out why the Night King is advancing on the Wall in season 8 and i wouldn't be surprised if it was justified.

Nonsense.

clive40golf · Post by **clive40golf** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:06 am

Did anyone notice that when Jon Snow surfaced from the water the wolf's eyes on the pommel of his sword turned blue?

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:10 am

Yep, although for me they just opened rather than changed colour. Anyway, very good optical illusion created by his hand reflecting through the jewels in the wolf head.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:24 am

When they captured the wight did you notice it died (as the others did ) but then came back straight away ? The theory is the NK has taken over him so he can see what is going on on the other side of the wall plus he will learn their plans.

clive40golf · Post by **clive40golf** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:49 am

bfcjg wrote:When they captured the wight did you notice it died (as the others did ) but then came back straight away ? The theory is the NK has taken over him so he can see what is going on on the other side of the wall plus he will learn their plans.

No didn't notice that, watched the last episode twice and still missed loads. I think I'm going to have to watch from the beginning of this series again. I did notice that the numbers of the crew kept changing