Sam Clucas

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:13 am

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:We're almost as bad as Chelsea in the transfer market.

Selling Matic with no adequate replacement and alienating Costa before they'd secured Lukaku and that from The Manager of the season.

Fortunately we are better than them on the pitch though

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:26 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:You would be surprised what we are paying now.

Why is Dyche bemoaning our ability to sign players then within wage budget ?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:28 am

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that we pay less than most, but with big bonuses?

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:35 am

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:We're almost as bad as Chelsea in the transfer market.

Selling Matic with no adequate replacement and alienating Costa before they'd secured Lukaku and that from The Manager of the season.

Chelsea signed Matic's replacement in Bakayoko.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:04 am

Nixon reporting Hull want £20m for Clucas.

Good luck with that.

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:15 am

agreenwood wrote:Nixon reporting Hull want £20m for Clucas.

Good luck with that.

Steven Defour for £7.5M and Jack Cork for £10M look like insanely good business in comparison....!

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:17 am

This is getting silly now !

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:18 am

We got Cork for 8 m rising to 10m
Is Clucas 12 m better ?
I think Slutski has been talking to Roman too much

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:23 am

Ridiculous fee.

I would rather see us gamble going foreign than even entertain thinking that sheer averageness such as Sam Clucas and Chris Wood should cost us the best part of £40m for the pair.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:25 am

Slutski is desperate to keep hold of him as they have sold all their other players. No surprise.

Any established footballer in the prem will be earning upwards of 40k a week. Unless they have been released and no others want them we will have to at least match that.
This is why we are being linked with championship and foreign players. It costs to shop in the premier league.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:26 am

Shows they are willing to sell.

Just a matter of agreeing a fee I would think now.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:28 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Slutski is desperate to keep hold of him as they have sold all their other players. No surprise.

Any established footballer in the prem will be earning upwards of 40k a week. Unless they have been released and no others want them we will have to at least match that.
This is why we are being linked with championship and foreign players. It costs to shop in the premier league.

So what's Jack Cork on?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:30 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Shows they are willing to sell.

Just a matter of agreeing a fee I would think now.

Anyone is willing to sell at the right price. But what they have done is slap a price on him way more than he's worth making it win/win for them.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:32 am

Swansea's interest means we wouldn't be getting him for much less than the £20m quoted. Hull will just trade off both clubs against each other.

Hull know that Swansea have got the £45m Sigurdsson fee, and we've got the £48m Keane and Gray fees sloshing around, and don't want to sell. They're in a strong position, and I think we should move on. He's not a central defender, fast winger or fast/clever forward, so no loss.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:06 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:He's not a central defender, fast winger or fast/clever forward, so no loss.

Replacement for Marney perhaps?

How much would you pay now for what Dean has given us? I'd say £20m isnt far wrong. I'd rather £20m on Clucas than Wood by a hop, skip and a jump over Elland Road all the way to the KC!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:57 am

20 million for Clucas,move on,add another 10million to that a buy a decent replacement for Keane,we don't need Clucas.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:04 am

£10m was his top value .Hull are just taking.the pxxx.We should have got him at the same time as we signed Darwikwa from Chesterfield but we didn't do we move on.
Jon Swift at Reading ex Chelsea looks useful and can play wide or cm

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:05 am

£10m was his top value .Hull are just taking.the pxxx.We should have got him at the same time as we signed Darwikwa from Chesterfield but we didn't do we move on.
Jon Swift at Reading ex Chelsea looks useful and can play wide or cm

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:05 am

Clucas or Wood will not be coming here unless the players themselves try and force their club to sell. Neither club wants or needs to sell so are pricing them out of the market which is their right. Time to move on otherwise we'll end up with no more signings. I'm not convinced that there is any substance to the current rumours about overseas players.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:33 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:£10m was his top value .Hull are just taking.the pxxx.We should have got him at the same time as we signed Darwikwa from Chesterfield but we didn't do we move on.
Jon Swift at Reading ex Chelsea looks useful and can play wide or cm

I think what you mean is - we should have signed Clucas and not Darikwa....

BurnleyPaul · Post by **BurnleyPaul** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Basically the club have confirmed that Clucas is for sale- they just want to make the price an eye popping one.

You have to wonder how Leonid Slutsky feels about this. The supermarket is not yet closed and the shelves are looking very bare right now. He's going to be the manager who gets blamed for the food shortages soon enough....will he hang around?

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:44 pm

Now Swansea have made an approach....

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:45 pm

Swansea make approach to Hull for Clucas according to Sky

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:49 pm

I wouldn't go above £10m for Clucas as I simply don't think he'll make the team!! The midfield three of Cork, Hendrick and Defour will take some shifting by Westwood, Marney or anyone else who comes in. £10m for a benchwarmer is too much. I'd rather put the money into a top class winger, centre half or striker who'll make a difference to the team.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:50 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:Now Swansea have made an approach....

He's very similar to Tom Carroll.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:51 pm

He might have to move house for Swansea

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:12 pm

Good player with a lot of potential. Looks like Swansea are going to splash the cash.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:15 pm

Or are Hull playing us at our own game?

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:17 pm

Let Swansea spend their riches on him.
I applaud our stance on fees where players of this calibre, Clucas, Woods, have a particular value.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:32 pm

Hull at doing exactly what they should do if they don't want to sell a player - telling potential suitors that if they want him, they'll have to pay way over the odds. Not taking the p!55, just good business. I like what I've seen of Clucas, but not sure we should be paying that.

lanky22222 · Post by **lanky22222** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:35 pm

Don't understand this 'good potential' tag that Clucas has got?

Going 27 in September, only been in the Hull side for 2 years and didn't exactly set the Championship or Premier League alight...and for £20m we can do a lot better.

Jack Cork, who was 28 just gone when we signed him, has had 5 or so years of BPL experience in sides staying in the league and we got him for half the price!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:39 pm

I like Clucas, but no way would I pay more than 11.67 million for him

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:04 pm

Is Clucas worth more than Maguire or Robertson, I don't think so. They've been selling players all summer. So can't understand why they'd stop now. Whatever the reason, I wouldn't pay that much for him, I don't think anyone else would either, and I hope the club wouldn't.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:08 pm

Sky reporting Snodgrass is available for transfer. Not sure whether we'd still be interested in him if our other targets are to be believed. But would fit the Dyche framework.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:21 pm

He didn't fit West Hams. We might have dodged a bullet, either way I'd leave him to find his old form before renewing any interest.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:10 pm

Nixon saying that Swansea have put in a huge bid. Much bigger than ours.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Nixon saying that Swansea have put in a huge bid. Much bigger than ours.

I hope they get him, vastly overrated and not what we need. Our midfield is stocked, we ckuld do with another winger (which, despite some on here saying he is, he isn't). At 10m in this market, I would go with it but more than that would be an absokute joke.

Saw Clucas many times in League One for Chesterfield and he just about stood out in their team, but not on the wing.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:16 pm

Perhaps we should have gone in whilst the supermarket was still open

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:26 pm

agreenwood wrote:Perhaps we should have gone in whilst the supermarket was still open

Or maybe we should have taken a bit of a gamble and bought him whilst he was at Chesterfield ? Maybe in prefernce to Darikwa ?
I'd like to see us take one or two more gambles on younger players generally.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:29 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Or maybe we should have taken a bit of a gamble and bought him whilst he was at Chesterfield ? Maybe in prefernce to Darikwa ?
I'd like to see us take one or two more gambles on younger players generally.

But if he was pulling up any trees at Chesterfield the perhaps more clubs might have shown interest in him. Obviously he wasn't on the radar of many clubs.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:32 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Or maybe we should have taken a bit of a gamble and bought him whilst he was at Chesterfield ? Maybe in prefernce to Darikwa ?
I'd like to see us take one or two more gambles on younger players generally.

It's hard to judge.

I saw a lot of that Chesterfield side and the best player they had was Sam Morsy. Clucas and Darikwa stepped up to be in Premier League squads, whereas Morsy has scuttled around lower Champ/upper League One.

It shows that scouting isn't as easy as you might think.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:21 am

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jtv · Post by **jtv** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:27 am

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Well they do need to replace Sigurdsson - but with inferior quality?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:32 am

I don't think £15 million is out of our price range to be honest.

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:50 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:I don't think £15 million is out of our price range to be honest.

Neither is 20, but is Clucas worth it? It seems that Swansea's 15 are "guaranteed", there could be add ons to that

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:52 am

For £15 million we should be looking elsewhere.
Actually happy for the Club not to pay it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:54 am

I think Swansea are probably more desperate to sign Clucas than we are - they have just lost by far their best player and have a very big wedge burning a hole in their back pocket.

Even if we decide to push to £15m I think they will continue to outbid us.

Even in this inflated market from what I have seen he's not worth more than Brady or Jeff.....£12m or £13m tops. If we get him I'd be happy - if we don't no biggie as long as we do get 2 or 3 of our other targets.

We are trying our best to spend big money to improve the squad - so all good by me.

I'll be glad when transfer window is over so we can just crack on with the games - interrupted of course by numerous boring international breaks !

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:55 am

swansea have just had a £12M bid rejected, he's not worth it, move along.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:55 am

I didn't expect Clucas to be available for anything less than £15m, to be honest. If we had serious interest in him then that's what we'd expect to pay, surely.

A player like Clucas isn't a priority though, so perfectly happy for us to leave this one.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:39 pm

Since PSG started paying obscene sums for players, every club is trying to get crazy prices for their players. I really don't anything about Clucas but £20m seems a hell of a lot of money to me. Same goes for Wood. I wouldn't pay any more than £12m for him.