Trump and Jerusalem...Insane

[Greenmile]

Is "Mussie" really that offensive?

If so, then "Proddy" must be too.

Yet nobody commented on this:

Yes. And if P*** is offensive then Aussie must be, too.

Facile argument.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Is "Mussie" really that offensive?

If so, then "Proddy" must be too.

Yet nobody commented on this:

I still haven't worked out why the sandal wearers fall over themselves in a rush to shout 'racist' when Muslims are spoken about in a negative manner.

They throw it about that much, willy nilly, that the word 'racist' has lost all of its meaning.

[TheFamilyCat]

Yes. And if P*** is offensive then Aussie must be, too.

Facile argument.

I don't think my example is comparable to the P***/ Aussie argument. It is common knowledge that P***, like n****r was used historically as an insult and as a result is considered offensive.

As far as I'm aware "Mussie" does not have the same history, if that is the right word.

That's not to say that it may not be offensive depending on the context it's used in.

[Greenmile]

I don't think my example is comparable to the P***/ Aussie argument. It is common knowledge that P***, like n****r was used historically as an insult and as a result is considered offensive.

As far as I'm aware "Mussie" does not have the same history, if that is the right word.

That's not to say that it may not be offensive depending on the context it's used in.

I’m pretty sure it’s a popular term amongst the type of people who also use the p-word. Usually spelled with z’s though.

[Sidney1st]

I still haven't worked out why the sandal wearers fall over themselves in a rush to shout 'racist' when Muslims are spoken about in a negative manner.

They throw it about that much, willy nilly, that the word 'racist' has lost all of its meaning.

They get all confused between what race they are and what religion they follow.

Apparently it's one and the same thing to them, there are even people on here who will try to convince you that mocking Islam is racist when it actually isn't.

Islam isn't a race anymore than Christianity is, once people can get that clear in their minds it all becomes much easier.
Unfortunately it's got to the point where people just accept that any criticism of Islam can be called racist.

[bluelabrador16]

Interesting read:

Trump Settles Debt With Zionists – Confirms That Iran’s Struggle Is Righteous.......Moon of Alabama

".. The only reasons for U.S. presidents to circumvent the 22-year-old law by issuing waivers was to pretend that the U.S. would be a neutral broker towards some peace between the (East-)European colonists and Palestinians. That was from start to end a deception. Congress and U.S. presidents are under control of the Zionist Lobby which can marshal enormous amounts of money to make or defeat candidates for legislative or executive offices. The Zionist billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who also sponsors the fascist Israel Prime Minister Netanyahoo, donated more than $100 million to the Trump campaign and tens of millions to Congress races. Today was time for Trump to settle some of that debt...

....With the increasing buildup of Zionist settlements in the Palestinian West Bank areas under Netanyahu, the two-state solution had long been killed. The Palestinian dictator Mahmoud Abbas, who let this happen without resistance, is just a kapo used by the Israelis to keep the Palestinians down. The Palestinians in Gaza which defied the Zionist occupation were bombed whenever an Israeli Premier needed some diversion from domestic political trouble....

The Professor Amal Saad of the Lebanon University predicts:

"Trump has no idea how his declaration will backfire. In violating Int’l law & legitimizing Israel’s apartheid rule in Jerusalem, Int’l law will no longer serve as a framework for securing Palestinian rights- “from river to sea Palestine will be free” will be normalized discourse

Those parties that have resisted and continue to resist U.S. hegemony and the Zionists, will win in the public opinion of the Middle East. Those who cooperate with and enable the U.S. and its Zionist pendant will lose...."

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/12/tr ... teous.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Greenmile]

Criticism of Islam is perfectly acceptable. Criticism of (all) Muslims is bigoted, and whilst not technically racist, it’s in the same ballpark.

[bluelabrador16]

Trump and Jerusalem...Insane

Greenmile

Have you anything to say about the subject of the thread?

[TheFamilyCat]

I’m pretty sure it’s a popular term amongst the type of people who also use the p-word. Usually spelled with z’s though.

I'll be honest, I have never heard or seen it used before.

As I said, I can understand how it may be used as an insult but I don't personally consider "Muzzie" as derogatory or offensive.

[Greenmile]

I'll be honest, I have never heard or seen it used before.

As I said, I can understand how it may be used as an insult but I don't personally consider "Muzzie" as derogatory or offensive.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/muzzie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you’ve never heard or seen it before, how can you consider it to be anything?

[Bin Ont Turf]

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/muzzie

If you’ve never heard or seen it before, how can you consider it to be anything?

You'll be ignoring the 'slang' bit and go straight for the 'offensive' bit no doubt.

Bluelab asked you a question by the way. Care to answer?

[ClaretMoffitt]

Criticism of Islam is perfectly acceptable. Criticism of (all) Muslims is bigoted, and whilst not technically racist, it’s in the same ballpark.

Thing is Muslims often identify themselves first and foremost as muslim. They take criticism of their religion so personally that it's difficult to separate the ideology from the actions of the person.

[Greenmile]

You'll be ignoring the 'slang' bit and go straight for the 'offensive' bit no doubt.

Bluelab asked you a question by the way. Care to answer?

“Slang” and “offensive” aren’t mutually exclusive. The p word is slang, too. The third descriptor on the link was “racial slur”. These aren’t options - all three apply.

And no. I try not to engage with Bluelab. She (I think Bluelab is female - wasn’t she Trawdengirl at one time?) reminds me of the nutter shouting conspiracy theories in the pub who everyone tries to avoid catching the eye of.

[Greenmile]

Thing is Muslims often identify themselves first and foremost as muslim. They take criticism of their religion so personally that it's difficult to separate the ideology from the actions of the person.

Not most of the Muslims I know.

[Sidney1st]

Criticism of Islam is perfectly acceptable. Criticism of (all) Muslims is bigoted, and whilst not technically racist, it’s in the same ballpark.

I feel the same way about Muslims as I do about Christians or any other religion.
I just think they're all odd and need to get a grip of themselves.

If that makes me a bigot then so be it, not the worst thing I've been called on here.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Not most of the Muslims I know.

You ever tried criticising their religion in front of them? I assume not because it would be rude and unnecessary, but if you did, you'd likely be met with a more hostile and defensive response than if you did the same with your average Christian or Jew, just saying.

[Greenmile]

I feel the same way about Muslims as I do about Christians or any other religion.
I just think they're all odd and need to get a grip of themselves.

Nothing wrong with any of that and I feel much the same, but I’m sure you don’t hate on all theists like some of the islamophobes on here do to all Muslims.

[TheFamilyCat]

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/muzzie

If you’ve never heard or seen it before, how can you consider it to be anything?

I saw it used for the first time and didn't consider it as anything until it was challenged. From that, it was clear some people find it offensive, which I personally don't.

I assumed it was considered offensive because it was insulting to the religion; that is why I questioned whether using "Proddy" was comparable.

[Greenmile]

You ever tried criticising their religion in front of them? I assume not because it would be rude and unnecessary, but if you did, you'd likely be met with a more hostile and defensive response than if you did the same with your average Christian or Jew, just saying.

You don’t think that constant criticism from people like you might make them a little defensive?

And no - I don’t criticise anyone’s specific religion in front of them, but I will occasionally criticise religion in general, and I’ve never had any problems.

I appreciate my friends isn’t a huge sample size, but I can only go from personal experience.

[Sidney1st]

Nothing wrong with any of that and I feel much the same, but I’m sure you don’t hate on all theists like some of the islamophobes on here do to all Muslims.

I think Theists are bonkers too.

[Bin Ont Turf]

don’t hate on all theists

Cringe for the 'hate on all' Yankism.

Do you read the same websites the Turtle does?

[barba]

I've not read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned the Israel Embassy Act 1995 and the vote in both the US Congress and the Senate which both ratified the position that the US Embassy should be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

[Sidney1st]

Nope, didn't even know that was a thing.

[Greenmile]

Cringe for the 'hate on all' Yankism.

Do you read the same websites the Turtle does?

Fair criticism.

I originally just wrote “hate”, but that seemed a bit strong, so “hate on” seemed a simple way to soften it.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Fair criticism.

I originally just wrote “hate”, but that seemed a bit strong, so “hate on” seemed a simple way to soften it.

Never soften it for the worse.

[Greenmile]

I've not read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned the Israel Embassy Act 1995 and the vote in both the US Congress and the Senate which both ratified the position that the US Embassy should be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

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[IanMcL]

Trump....dangerous chump

[claretandy]

As he gone yet ?

[Dazzler]

http://www.newsweek.com/isis-war-us-trump-747951" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"we will burn you with the flames of war which you started in Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Syria and Afghan"

They forgot to add that they were peaceful Stable nations.