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TVC15
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by TVC15 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:40 pm
Rileybobs wrote:Can’t say I was too impressed by the atmosphere at Selhurst Park last season.
Really ?
It sounds great when they are on TV. It sounded really loud v Liverpool the other week. Maybe it’s better for the bigger games but i’ve always thought they generate a good atmosphere in recent times.
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THEWELLERNUT70
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by THEWELLERNUT70 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:48 pm
quoonbeatz wrote:thought the flat atmosphere yesterday was very much a reflection of the PL becoming the norm. big crowd, big game, practically dead until the penalty.
stark contrast to thursday night, where we were playing a new team with the prize of games against other new teams if we won.
given that so many people appear to be more into the PL than europe why wasn't everyone massively up for yesterday's game against one of the biggest clubs in the world?
Premier league football tourists have an affect too. Several people sat in the very close vicinity to where I sit in the Bob Lord Stand were actively recording every Utd chance on their smart phones and substantial amount more who a transient spectators who you don't see from one game to the next. Extrapolate that over the ground and it becomes a problem regarding atmosphere. They either have an affinity with the away team or they are just there to take in a Premier League game.
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Dyched
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by Dyched » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:52 pm
The fact that its boring doesnt help. We have nobody in our team that fills the fans with excitement the way Blake or Little did when they had the ball.
Were a team with steady footballers. Doing simple jobs. Nothing different, no spark.
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by FCBurnley » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:53 pm
Burnley1989 wrote:Crazy.... I’d much rather play teams in Europe with exciting away ties than go to old Trafford once a season.
Most of, if not all of my mates agree that whilst the premier league status is nice to have, they’d swop it for relegation and an FA Cup win. Championship football is brilliant as well.
There is nothing more gut wrenching than relegation from the Premier League. If you think The Championship is brilliant go and watch Rovers for a few games.
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by Right_winger » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:02 pm
There’s some on here who’d be happy going back to the dark days so long as they could sit in their favourite seat and travel locally for derbys against the lashers.
A good cup run can actually improve your league form and priovide a bit of confidence, reinvigorate he crowd etc.
Dycheball certainly doesn’t have excitement in its favour.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:10 pm
TVC15 wrote:To be fair Quoon the atmosphere has been pretty flat for most of the last 8 years. Last time when the ground was rocking on a constant basis was under horseface.
I don't really know why - there's probably a whole bunch of demographic and social reasons.
When I hear the atmosphere at grounds like Crystal Palace (similar in size of fan base to us) you do wonder whether we would benefit from trying to learn some lessons from what they have done to generate that noise every week.
I went to an MLS game in Toronto last year and the atmosphere was better there than Burnley and that's to watch some pretty mediocre stuff. But I do know that part of the reason behind the atmosphere at Toronto was some deliberate strategies of creating a section of fans who were allowed flares, flags etc....all sounds very American (or Canadian) I know but this has worked at several MLS grounds and it was a genuine not artificial atmosphere helped by the fact no doubt that Toronto were winning most of the time and won the MLS last year.
Not saying this would work at Burnley but it should not be the case that we need to score before you here a noise.
Its a great idea. But there are too many miserable bastards in Burnley for an ultras or organised section to work.
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by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:11 pm
TVC15 wrote:Really ?
It sounds great when they are on TV. It sounded really loud v Liverpool the other week. Maybe it’s better for the bigger games but i’ve always thought they generate a good atmosphere in recent times.
The atmosphere is certainly better than a good number of grounds but I think it’s exagerrated just how much noise they make. There’s a couple of hundred weirdos wearing black near the corner flag who try to orchestrate an atmosphere but I didn’t find it particularly impressive.
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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:12 pm
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Premier league football tourists have an affect too. Several people sat in the very close vicinity to where I sit in the Bob Lord Stand were actively recording every Utd chance on their smart phones and substantial amount more who a transient spectators who you don't see from one game to the next. Extrapolate that over the ground and it becomes a problem regarding atmosphere. They either have an affinity with the away team or they are just there to take in a Premier League game.
This is common everywhere. Germany. Italy. Spain. Doesnt affect the atmosphere especially in Germany and Italy. And those two couldnt be further apart either in terms of the stadia, infrastructure etc.
Its just excuses on this country.
Terracing would help. An Ultras section would help. But there isnt the appetite here.
Look at Palace. I think its gret. Instead you just get miserable bastards saying its choregraphed crap without actually doing or offering any good alternative.
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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:13 pm
Rileybobs wrote:The atmosphere is certainly better than a good number of grounds but I think it’s exagerrated just how much noise they make. There’s a couple of hundred weirdos wearing black near the corner flag who try to orchestrate an atmosphere but I didn’t find it particularly impressive.
Tell me a ground and a set of fans in this country that offers more.
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by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:23 pm
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Tell me a ground and a set of fans in this country that offers more.
It changes season by season depending on the club’s form and fortunes. I heard better at Huddersfield last season for one. Leicester has certainly been as good. The atmosphere at Anfield is far better at its best. I could move down the divisions and continue. The atmosphere at Palace is decent but I didn’t find it anything special.
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by joey13 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:27 pm
All we need is the introduction of clappers that would change the atmosphere instantly
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by quoonbeatz » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:34 pm
TVC15 wrote:To be fair Quoon the atmosphere has been pretty flat for most of the last 8 years. Last time when the ground was rocking on a constant basis was under horseface.
absolutely agreed and its largely the case with home fans across the country.
i was just musing that there were clearly a lot of people for whom the PL is the priority but plenty did seem that arsed yesterday in what should be one of the biggest games of the season for them. being in the PL is surely all about the big games against the big 6 but bar confirmingour joint hatred of leeds, there wasn't much of a racket raised.
in truth, i'm still smarting a bit that we didn't give the europa league a proper go. football is all about experiences and having seen most things, that was a new and exciting challenge for us which any realist will tell you is unlikely to come round again very quickly. you have to make the most of these things when they happen and we didn't.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:41 pm
Rileybobs wrote:It changes season by season depending on the club’s form and fortunes. I heard better at Huddersfield last season for one. Leicester has certainly been as good. The atmosphere at Anfield is far better at its best. I could move down the divisions and continue. The atmosphere at Palace is decent but I didn’t find it anything special.
Huddersfield have the same setup. A stand of 'Ultras'
Leicester - drum and clappers?! If palace is bad then... actually I darent even think of it!
Liverpool - the worse atmosphere ever. Every time I go. Maybe the champions league is different. But every time Ive been people have even been ejected for singing!
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by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:50 pm
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Huddersfield have the same setup. A stand of 'Ultras'
Leicester - drum and clappers?! If palace is bad then... actually I darent even think of it!
Liverpool - the worse atmosphere ever. Every time I go. Maybe the champions league is different. But every time Ive been people have even been ejected for singing!
I didn’t say Palace was bad. I just wasn’t impressed by it. I’ve certainly witnessed a far better atmosphere at Turf Moor on many occasions. I only made it to a handful of away games last season and Huddersfield definitely trumped Palace.
The atmosphere at Anfield is generally poor against Burnley, but again it is far better than Palace when they play the likes of Everton, Man Utd or have a big game in Europe.
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by tim_noone » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:58 pm
The powers that be want English Football supporters ...contained. They don't want an atmosphere of passion/ excitement generating they like it sterile.its manageable. Germany France and Italy lead the way you only have to catch it on TV .... St Pauli v cologne yesterday attracted 30.000 for a bundesliga 2 game in what was described as an electrifying atmosphere ..marseille fans at Monaco very very impressive.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:51 pm
tim_noone wrote:The powers that be want English Football supporters ...contained. They don't want an atmosphere of passion/ excitement generating they like it sterile.its manageable. Germany France and Italy lead the way you only have to catch it on TV .... St Pauli v cologne yesterday attracted 30.000 for a bundesliga 2 game in what was described as an electrifying atmosphere ..marseille fans at Monaco very very impressive.
Correct. But not just the powers... Powers that be and the brainwashed!!!
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by Burnley1989 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:15 pm
FCBurnley wrote:There is nothing more gut wrenching than relegation from the Premier League. If you think The Championship is brilliant go and watch Rovers for a few games.
I watched almost every game we played in the championship, it doesn’t matter what league we are in to me. The opportunity to play in a cup final or Europe is the pinnacle, premier league survival isn’t in my eyes... it’s just another season of the same.
I must be clear of course I want us to stay up but it’s just not that big of a deal to me.
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