England v Australia 4th Test

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:278/8 at lunch - another 20 required to avoid follow on

I'd be

if they enforced the follow on anyway,but purely for pride England would want to pass the follow on target,if these last couple of wickets can eat 50/60 runs out and bat 90 minutes or so out of the game all the better.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Doubt they could get a 400 lead too much before the end of today to be honest and they will want longer than that to bowl us out.

Yeah true enough. avoiding the follow on is massive. It gives them something to think about.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:20 pm

Doubts they would enforce the follow on.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:27 pm

taio wrote:Doubts they would enforce the follow on.

Bumble's just said he'd be surprised if they enforced it. I just thought they'd have to score some runs very quickly then and get us back in for at least the last hour today.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:49 pm

I think Stokes' innings last week though gives them massive food for thought. Before that innings I would have seen them declaring at 350 in the second innings but now will be wary of declaring for anything less than 450. Any runs we can get now delays them getting into bat and getting the runs needed to put us back in as soon as they would like. In fact I just think prodding and leaving balls and delaying the inevitable will help us and make them think a little too much

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:52 pm

I think they will enforce follow on. Hopefully they won’t have that decision to make

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:57 pm

9 down and still 15 needed to avoid the follow on. Leach receiving a standing ovation as he comes out to bat.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:03 pm

FCBurnley wrote:I think they will enforce follow on. Hopefully they won’t have that decision to make

Captains don't often enforce these days,so it'll be a surprise if they do.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:07 pm

Need to get leach opening haha

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:09 pm

It's not inconceivable that if England can bowl out the Aussies for 150-170 then they have a real chance of another dramatic win!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:09 pm

Oh! dear plumb LB given not out and the Aussies have burned their reviews again.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:10 pm

tiger76 wrote:Oh! dear plumb LB given not out and the Aussies have burned their reviews again.

And the last review they used was ridiculous

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:11 pm

Spijed wrote:It's not inconceivable that if England can bowl out the Aussies for 150-170 then they have a real chance of another dramatic win!

Eternal optimist.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:12 pm

Follow on avoided

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:15 pm

Ashes series still alive. Leach for PM

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:17 pm

Although not comparable with the brilliant Stokes innings, Buttler’s innings could prove just as important if we were to draw this test and go on to win at the Oval.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:18 pm

Spijed wrote:It's not inconceivable that if England can bowl out Smith for 150-170 then they have a real chance of another dramatic win!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:18 pm

Massive for me is that. What’s the likely scenario? Australia to set England around 375 and retire with an hour of the evening session remaining?

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:18 pm

tiger76 wrote:Oh! dear plumb LB given not out and the Aussies have burned their reviews again.

Listening to Shane Warne moaning about it. The umpire didn't think it was out so, without any review available, just accept it and get on with the game!
His argument was that the umpires should take into consideration that one team may have review available whereas the other team have none left, therefore, the umpire should give a decision with that in mind.
Absolutely crazy, the umpire should give what he thinks and that is it. Bloody whinging Aussies!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:19 pm

301 all out

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:21 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Listening to Shane Warne moaning about it. The umpire didn't think it was out so, without any review available, just accept it and get on with the game!
His argument was that the umpires should take into consideration that one team may have review available whereas the other team have none left, therefore, the umpire should give a decision with that in mind.
Absolutely crazy, the umpire should give what he thinks and that is it. Bloody whinging Aussies!

Couldn’t believe that, Warne saying he should have given him out and let England review.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:21 pm

Unbelievably stupid from Buttler.
He had to bat time, not try and smash it.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:25 pm

The ball that bowled Buttler looked a no ball just as much as Leach getting Smith out.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:31 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Unbelievably stupid from Buttler.
He had to bat time, not try and smash it.

the last bowl of the over just play it out,England have played some brainless cricket again today,Bairstow and Buttler were reckless with their shot selection,not for the first time in this series.

Longsidelenny · Post by **Longsidelenny** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:31 pm

Well said I thought it was a no ball to up the colne

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:34 pm

Another duck for Warner - three on the run

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:36 pm

Broad has Warner in his back pocket this series

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:36 pm

Bet Warner wishes he hadn’t been reinstated after his cheating haha

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:37 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Unbelievably stupid from Buttler.
He had to bat time, not try and smash it.

Bloody hell, he’s just pulled us round.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:37 pm

Bosscat wrote:Broad has Warner in his back pocket this series

61 in one innings but totalled just 78 in all eight innings.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bloody hell, he’s just pulled us round.

I’m talking about the shot he got out to.

Fair dos if you don’t think batting time was the objective there.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:39 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The ball that bowled Buttler looked a no ball just as much as Leach getting Smith out.

Was very close but just about a fair delivery

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Bet Warner wishes he hadn’t been reinstated after his cheating haha

I think I’ve fallen in love with David Warner.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bloody hell, he’s just pulled us round.

I agree it was a ridiculous statement Tony....

Butler may well have just saved this test ffs

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:44 pm

Saved the test by avoiding a follow on they wouldn’t have enforced anyway?

Let’s hope you are right.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:45 pm

I notice Labuschagne always chews gum. Wonder if it the same that Tiger Woods uses ? CBD ?

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:47 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Saved the test by avoiding a follow on they wouldn’t have enforced anyway?

Let’s hope you are right.

Wonder if some of our batters have the ability and mentality to try and play for time

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:52 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Wonder if some of our batters have the ability and mentality to try and play for time

Indeed. Certainly not the mentality.

Thinking it’s job done at 40 and deciding to try and put the number 1 bowler in the world out of the ground might be one of the reasons we are hanging on by our finger nails in this series.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:53 pm

The way England are currently bowling they must think they have a real chance here. 3 or 4 down for another 50 runs and they might believe a chase of 320-330 is certainly possible.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:54 pm

Only following this by BBC website. Can anyone explain why archer is showing as only bowled 1.5 overs?

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ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:56 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Saved the test by avoiding a follow on they wouldn’t have enforced anyway?

Let’s hope you are right.

He scored forty odd in difficult circumstances, took the follow on option away from them and we scored 73 further runs scored from when he came in.

We will never know whether they would have enforced the follow on but Buttler made a massive contribution to considerably reducing their first innings lead.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:56 pm

Somebody forgot to press a button

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:58 pm

Spijed wrote:The way England are currently bowling they must think they have a real chance here. 3 or 4 down for another 50 runs and they might believe a chase of 320-330 is certainly possible.

You think that’s even likely in the fourth innings?

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:00 pm

The Aussies are really consistent with their reviews

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:00 pm

16/2 and an Aussie review gone.

Now it’s Labuschagne & Smith together

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:01 pm

212-2

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:06 pm

Spijed wrote:212-2

Not far away from having enough on this wicket now. We need them to bat as long as possible.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:16 pm

Another review failed 24/3

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:16 pm

Few words on the way off then.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:18 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Few words on the way off then.

Broad waved him off