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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by RMutt » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:12 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:17 am
I did see reports when I worked at RR that the amount of fuel used by a plane per seat were the same or slightly less than a a person in a car if there were 4 people in the car.
You’d probably think twice about a car plus four people trip to Florida for your hols though.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:08 pm

RMutt wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:12 pm
You’d probably think twice about a car plus four people trip to Florida for your hols though.
The point I was inferring is that a car with one person in uses more fuel to get from A to B than if they used a plane to go say from London to Glasgow. As long as the plane is full. When I worked on the Embrear 145, seat cost was about 17 pence per mile. That was about 25 years ago though.

The question was what uses most oil. I suggest it could probably be similar use per mile assuming each method was full of passengers.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:27 pm

This new technology sounds like a real game changer. Science and engineering at its best.
https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/scien ... 53623.html

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by Quicknick » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:48 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:08 pm
The point I was inferring is that a car with one person in uses more fuel to get from A to B than if they used a plane to go say from London to Glasgow. As long as the plane is full. When I worked on the Embrear 145, seat cost was about 17 pence per mile. That was about 25 years ago though.

The question was what uses most oil. I suggest it could probably be similar use per mile assuming each method was full of passengers.
The point I was implying, is what you should have said. The reader infers.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by Foshiznik » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:03 pm

For those interested, the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) found that it uses the same amount of fuel to fly a plane of 344 passengers from London to New York City as it would to drive 152 Volkswagen Golfs to drive the same distance. On average, a 747 flies at 100 MPG.

In terms of CO2 emissions, it was found that if a 747 flew from London to Edinburgh with a full passenger count, it creates 79kg of CO2 per passenger, whereas an average diesel car doing the same distance causes 98kg, yet you would need 100 cars to take the 400+ passengers.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:44 pm

There will be a physics calculation about weight and power to move a distance that probably shows all things being equal. Most modes of transport use a similar amount to move a person from a to b.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:59 am

I am assuming the new law must have come into to power to stop protests then.

Seeing loads of clips of them getting arrested now.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:59 am
I am assuming the new law must have come into to power to stop protests then.

Seeing loads of clips of them getting arrested now.
Protests aren’t being stopped per se, it’s how they’re protesting that’s been legislated against and as a result the police are able to deal with them accordingly instead of having to stand around watching them
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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by aggi » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:30 pm

Some people are going to be very confused about who to support here:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 91255.html

Just Stop Oil threatens to disrupt London Pride over event’s main sponsor

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by dsr » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:40 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:30 pm
Some people are going to be very confused about who to support here:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 91255.html

Just Stop Oil threatens to disrupt London Pride over event’s main sponsor

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So Just Stop Oil is quite clear about this - any infringement of their right to do as they want is government oppression, but they believe they have the right to stop anyone else from doing as they want?

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:50 pm

If you say so..

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:58 pm

Not surprised the clown who sent this letter felt the need to hide their name.

Love the idea they feel they can make demands on others with a threatening tone.

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Re: Just Stop Oil...

Post by aggi » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:05 pm

dsr wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:40 pm
So Just Stop Oil is quite clear about this - any infringement of their right to do as they want is government oppression, but they believe they have the right to stop anyone else from doing as they want?
I'm pretty sure Just Stop Oil have never said any infringement of their right to do as they want is government oppression.

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