More post brexit referendum good news!!!!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:18 pm

Yes!

It took you long enough to do the football score.

Keep believing Ringo. Brexit needs people like you to happen.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:21 pm

yep, read the article.

it quoted the berk who called in, not Iain Dale. no idea what dale said about it, it didn't mention that.

i didn't bother listening to the clip, its an express article so not worth the keyboard its typed on.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:23 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Yes!

It took you long enough to do the football score.

Keep believing Ringo. Brexit needs people like you to happen.

Lots of opprotunities for you to give me a yes or no. To show me where in the treaties it says the EU cannot condemn violence metered out to its citizens

You didnt. Meanwhile......

Most read story in the UK on the Express Lancaster Claret.

You stick to the UTC messasge board!

Im getting natioanl coverage!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/89505 ... e-campaign" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Listen to the voice of reason. listen to the dulcit toans of Ringo McCartney

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:24 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:yep, read the article.

it quoted the berk who called in, not Iain Dale. no idea what dale said about it, it didn't mention that.

i didn't bother listening to the clip, its an express article so not worth the keyboard its typed on.

Iain Dale agreed with me!

the penny still hasnt dropped yet has it.

That Berk's me! And the article about my call to LBC is the "Most read in the UK" in a national daily newspaper!

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:26 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Iain Dale agreed with me!

good for him, like i said, the article didn't say that.

he's a bell anyway and the express is an absolute shitrag but fair play for making a phone call fella!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:27 pm

Iain Dale wants Brexit.

Like a lot of Brexiteers, he believes in it so much that he's lost the ability to see any potential issues with it and assumes everything is the fault of the EU.

Bit like the berk who rang in really.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:28 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:the penny still hasnt dropped yet has it.

correct, you still haven't cottoned on.

although to be fair, i was pretty subtle.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:29 pm

Talking about @LBC fame

James O'Brien mentioned me and the cartoon I sent him (by Gary Larson) and the subject of "fear that a duck somewhere is watching you" during mystery hour.

Beat that Ringo!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:30 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Iain Dale wants Brexit.

Like a lot of Brexiteers, he believes in it so much that he's lost the ability to see any potential issues with it and assumes everything is the fault of the EU.

Bit like the berk who rang in really.

Just shows what having time off from work can do.

A fone call on LBC. A most read article in a national daily and wiping the floor with you, TWICE. All in 24 hours.

Ive surpassed myself!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:33 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:good for him, like i said, the article didn't say that.

he's a bell anyway and the express is an absolute shitrag but fair play for making a phone call fella!

Nice one Buddy!

Bag o' nerves when I was put through!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:33 pm

Er, yes

I'm not sure its a wise move letting the nation know of your Brexit theories to be perfectly honest, but hey ho, whatever floats your boat.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:35 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Talking about @LBC fame

James O'Brien mentioned me and the cartoon I sent him (by Gary Larson) and the subject of "fear that a duck somewhere is watching you" during mystery hour.

Beat that Ringo!

Think I did.

No mentions for me! Live on air, then an article in a national Daily, which for now, is "UKs No1 most read story"

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:37 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Er, yes

I'm not sure its a wise move letting the nation know of your Brexit theories to be perfectly honest, but hey ho, whatever floats your boat.

Well its kind of reassuring that 17,400,000 Brits agree with me. They, unlike you, cant all be wrong.

Can they!?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:39 pm

Aah Gutted now.

Dropped to the "2nd most read in the Uk"

Fame is so so fickle!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/89505 ... e-campaign" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:41 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Well its kind of reassuring that 17,400,000 Brits agree with me. They, unlike you, cant all be wrong.

Can they!?

Based on a total electorate of 46.5m, 29.1m Brits didn't agree with you

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/ ... nformation

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:46 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Based on a total electorate of 46.5m, 29.1m Brits didn't agree with you

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/ ... nformation

Based on an estimated 2000 UTC posters. Not one of 'em agree with you......

Move on, you Tourettes-tongued teenager!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:18 pm

Now being described on LBC as "Caller’s Killer Question On What If Brexit Had Gone The Other Way"

http://www.lbc.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Getting phone calls from the representatives for next years Im a celebrity Get me out of Here!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:38 pm

Even Tiny Tiny Tim Farron has apparently been tweeting about old Ringo !

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/i ... -had-gone/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:44 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: Getting phone calls from the representatives for next years Im a celebrity Get me out of Here!

Yeah, they need a never ending supply of bo11ocks for the bushtucker challenge, and who better to supply it than Ringo

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:07 pm

A self - centred whining arsehole. He's just the man they need - Dingo dollars coming his way.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:24 pm

National newspaper and national radio station headlines!

Get In!

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:28 pm

You should interest the "Daily Star" - there's a **** on every page.
Apparently.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:04 pm

To be fair, that is quite funny.

If you don't want to look at the express page, it's on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzkQ6NPzBbg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:31 am

If it be your will wrote:To be fair, that is quite funny.

If you don't want to look at the express page, it's on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzkQ6NPzBbg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Old Ringo going national Eh!

25,000 views of my contribution to Iain Dales program on LBC!

"Most viewed in the UK" at one point on the Daily Express today!

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:02 am

I’m just shocked that Ringo’s voice has broken. I always presumed he was about 9 years old from his “contributions” on here.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:45 am

As bored as I am of this thread, there is still some entertainment, reading how angry Ringo makes the UTC remoaners

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:31 am

Damo wrote:As bored as I am of this thread, there is still some entertainment, reading how angry Ringo makes the UTC remoaners

Aye, he's definitely triggered a few on here, well done Ringo, keep up the good work

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:10 am

Damo wrote:As bored as I am of this thread, there is still some entertainment, reading how angry Ringo makes the UTC remoaners

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:53 am

Greenmile wrote:I’m just shocked that Ringo’s voice has broken. I always presumed he was about 9 years old from his “contributions” on here.

Even at 9, that'd put me at around 4 years up on the mental age of the average Remoaner.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:50 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:Even at 9, that'd put me at around 4 years up on the mental age of the average Remoaner.

I know you are, but what am I?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:03 pm

Greenmile wrote:I know you are, but what am I?

Average

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:22 pm

Nigel Farage has just been on the news claiming that the blue passport is the only bit of good news Brexiteers have had for months.

So there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth, all this "post Brexit referendum good news" is all made up.

Those passports will make up for that though.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:45 pm

Great News for workers!!!

Bank of England, that champion of the Workers, has predicted the "risk" of rising wages for lowest paid.

It follows on from comments made by the former head of Marks and Spencers in the run up to the referendum. That having a reduced pool of cheap labour to choose from, will inevitably, mean emplyers will have to pay more to attract staff.

Remainers - "More immigration does not lead to British workers wages being suppressed and lowered.

"If we stop EU immigration that will make the cost of things go up, cos employers will have to pay more to employ people."

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:09 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
It follows on from comments made by the former head of Marks and Spencers in the run up to the referendum. That having a reduced pool of cheap labour to choose from, will inevitably, mean emplyers will have to pay more to attract staff.

Remainers - "More immigration does not lead to British workers wages being suppressed and lowered.

And higher wages simply leads to higher inflation!

Pay more for people to work on farms and the cost of fruit and veg goes up.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:15 pm

Ask if your own wages can be reducd then

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:01 pm

Spijed wrote:And higher wages simply leads to higher inflation!

Pay more for people to work on farms and the cost of fruit and veg goes up.

Are you happy that, exploited, migrants continue being paid, less than, poverty wages, so that you dont have to pay a fair price for you fruit n veg?

Fair enough...

Do you buy Fair Trade Coffee and Fair Trade Bananas, just out of interest?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:21 pm

Greenmile wrote:I know you are, but what am I?

Ahh, the James O'Brexit level of debate.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:22 pm

Spijed wrote:And higher wages simply leads to higher inflation!

Pay more for people to work on farms and the cost of fruit and veg goes up.

I've just copied and pasted a post I made earlier:

If it be your will wrote:It's off topic, but I couldn't help but pick up on this, because it cements the idea "Inflation always hits the poorest hardest".

If a 6-pack of tomatoes costs £1, let's take a guess that 20p of that represents the price of labour to plant, pick and pack them. Let's say the tomato picker/planter/packer is on £6/hour. For each hour of his labour he can therefore buy 6 packs of tomatoes.

Now let's say his salary doubled. The price of tomatoes is now £1.20 (tomato inflation rate = 20%). But now for each hour of the picker's labour (at £12/h), he can buy 10 packets of tomatoes. He's a winner.

Equally, if the price of land, fuel, fertiliser etc. represented in the price of tomatoes went up, thus causing the 'tomato inflation', the labourer would be worse of.

Whether inflation is good or bad, or hits the poorest hardest or least, entirely depends on what the cause of the inflation was. (I'm in the "Well, they should pay them more then" camp!)

Higher wages might lead to higher inflation, yes, but your use of the word 'simply' makes it sound like they'll just cancel each other out. They won't. This is just another neoliberal myth. The straightforward logic of "If I get paid more, I'll be better off" is (almost) always indeed correct.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:23 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Are you happy that, exploited, migrants continue being paid, less than, poverty wages, so that you dont have to pay a fair price for you fruit n veg?

Fair enough...

Why should I be? The point is that we are told that by leaving the EU our economy will grow. It won't if growing wages push up inflation. People won't have any more money to spend on British goods as a result.

And here's the hypocrisy. You quote that migrants are being exploited yet the majority of those voting for Brexit, like everyone else, will still look to pay less for their clothing (stuff that's made in Bangladesh etc.) rather than buy British made goods. People will ALWAYS look for the cheapest price, regardless of their political leanings.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:27 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Great News for workers!!!

Bank of England, that champion of the Workers, has predicted the "risk" of rising wages for lowest paid.

It follows on from comments made by the former head of Marks and Spencers in the run up to the referendum. That having a reduced pool of cheap labour to choose from, will inevitably, mean emplyers will have to pay more to attract staff.

Remainers - "More immigration does not lead to British workers wages being suppressed and lowered.

"If we stop EU immigration that will make the cost of things go up, cos employers will have to pay more to employ people."

Have you got a link for this? If you've accurately represented it, what you say would be a genuine bombshell, and probably the first 'official' recognition that immigration has a wage-suppressing effect. Quite something if the BoE has come right out and said it.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:30 pm

claretandy wrote:Aye, he's definitely triggered a few on here, well done Ringo, keep up the good work

Ringo's postings are fun and I'm sure entertain the Remainers rather than trigger them. You and Damo on the other hand are the boring ones who seem on the verge of constantly being triggered like the little snowflakes you are.

As for Ringo I want to know what he has done to Turtle Bunker as it seems he has completely neutralised its threat on this thread

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:31 pm

Spijed wrote:It won't if growing wages push up inflation. People won't have any more money to spend on British goods as a result.

Those that get the increased wages definitely will. (Those that don't, no, they won't.)

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:39 pm

If it be your will wrote:Have you got a link for this? If you've accurately represented it, what you say would be a genuine bombshell, and probably the first 'official' recognition that immigration has a wage-suppressing effect. Quite something if the BoE has come right out and said it.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -pay-rates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/ ... heresa-May" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... nd-chiefs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Whats the matter If it Be Your Will, have you never heard of the Laws of Supply and Demand?

Here's an introduction to it entitled "Economics Basics: Supply and Demand"

https://www.investopedia.com/university ... omics3.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hope all this helps.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:48 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -pay-rates

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/ ... heresa-May" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... nd-chiefs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Whats the matter If it Be Your Will, have you never heard of the Laws of Supply and Demand?

Here's an introduction to it entitled "Economics Basics: Supply and Demand"

https://www.investopedia.com/university ... omics3.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hope all this helps.

You keep doing this! I've said this all along, that mass movement of cheap labour is being used as an economic weapon by employers to suppress wages and working conditions. This is what I consider the major problem of free-movement, despite its many other benefits. I'm agreeing with you, you daft apeth. The only difference between you and I is that you blame the foreigners whereas I blame the system.

Edit - anyway, I think the crucial bit from your links is this one. And you're right, it does sound like an admission that immigration has been suppressing wages:

“I would also highlight the slowdown of inflows of foreign workers into the UK which may make pay growth here perhaps more sensitive to the tightening in domestic conditions than it has been previously,” he said.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:01 pm

claretandy wrote:Ahh, the James O'Brexit level of debate.

Yes. That’s the joke. Well spotted.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:08 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Ringo's postings are fun and I'm sure entertain the Remainers rather than trigger them. You and Damo on the other hand are the boring ones who seem on the verge of constantly being triggered like the little snowflakes you are.

As for Ringo I want to know what he has done to Turtle Bunker as it seems he has completely neutralised its threat on this thread

I know you are but what am i ?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:38 pm

If it be your will wrote:You keep doing this! I've said this all along, that mass movement of cheap labour is being used as an economic weapon by employers to suppress wages and working conditions. This is what I consider the major problem of free-movement, despite its many other benefits. I'm agreeing with you, you daft apeth. The only difference between you and I is that you blame the foreigners whereas I blame the system.

Edit - anyway, I think the crucial bit from your links is this one. And you're right, it does sound like an admission that immigration has been suppressing wages:

“I would also highlight the slowdown of inflows of foreign workers into the UK which may make pay growth here perhaps more sensitive to the tightening in domestic conditions than it has been previously,” he said.

Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Hold my hand up! i'm that used to one of the usual gaggle of Remoaners jumping in I've got used to going on the offensive. Best means of defence and all that!

"The only difference between you and I is that you blame the foreigners whereas I blame the system."

Then there is no difference bewteen us my friend! Im against the EFFECTS of uncontrolled mass immigration. Im NOT against immigrants. Im concerned with the, suppressive, EFFECTS it has not just on wages, but on social cohesion, already stretched public services, pollution, the increased demands it puts on limited energy supplies, crumbling infastructue, and the blood bank. There's is a world of diffference. A world. Between that and simply hating immigrants.

Its just a pity that the usaul of, too easily excited hysterical Remoaners, dont take the time to actually read my posts, instead of rushing in with their opinion that is based on a preconceived notion of what I meant. But hey, Im old and ugly enough to do a Ternent and take it on the chin!

Back to the subject of workers being forced to join a race to the bottom in wages. I think we both know, without being told, that an over supply of anything leads to a weakening in the price which can be achieved for it. What I dont get is this.( And I say this as an ex Labour Party member. ) Why the current Left who's side were always supposed to be there to defend the rights of those at the very bottom of the pile. Simply cannot see the effects of their pro EU stance and its insistence on the supply of a permanent pool of cheap, low skilled labour. And its very negative effect it has on the barginning power, prospects, and living standards of British workers.

Karl Marx said capitalism demands a pool of unempolyed to profit from.

Being in the EU, means that the British worker is, effectively, in competition with every unemployed person in Europe!

Anyway, I think you were far too generous calling me a "daft ha'porth" I think a "daft quart'porth" would be more accurate!

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:52 pm

Interesting article, Burnley is brexit Britain

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 24456.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:04 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Ringo's postings are fun and I'm sure entertain the Remainers rather than trigger them. You and Damo on the other hand are the boring ones who seem on the verge of constantly being triggered like the little snowflakes you are.

As for Ringo I want to know what he has done to Turtle Bunker as it seems he has completely neutralised its threat on this thread

The Turtles Head has been suspiciously quiet, and I have to admit I may have had more than a little influence on why the Zero in a Half Shell hasnt been quite as productive lately. Ive infitrated the Bunker with undercover agents to scupper the internal workings of his vast Bond villain-like subterranean complex!

Given Imploding Turtles Head's hard left politics, and he runs the Turtle Bunker on a Venezuala-style progressive left basis. My people have infiltrated his Politically Correct, LBGTXYZ workers representatives, and the Bunker trades unions. Who've brought the place to a stans still. I hear that their negotiations make Brexit look like a walk in the park. Something to do with the furnaces down there, not being Trans neutral inclusive enough, and the liquid being used, being nowhere near as gender fluid enough to satisfy the demands of the ethnic minority quotas. All this, on top of a particularly heated late night rally he was obliged to attend. It was just latest, in a long series of, demands from the special sadism wing of the Turtle Bunker Gay rights lobby. Apparently, they gave him a right mouthful and ended up having him over a barrel...... What!?

Im not resting on my laurels though. I believe he's still on the UTC messageboard, but using one or more of his various user log in names. Dont worry, I have contacts. He thinks he's incognito. He's not..........

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:09 pm

claretandy wrote:Interesting article, Burnley is brexit Britain

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 24456.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Independent. So good at being a newpaper, its not even given away free. Metro-like!