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Post by KefkaClaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:24 pm

Permanent or loan?

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Post by Ric_C » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:25 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:18 pm
One that would get me proper excited if we could get him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeS45k9x50A
Especially like this goal TBF ;)

https://youtu.be/JkTJEhBbmXI?t=326

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:27 pm

brunlea99 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:04 pm
Linked to Ian Maatsen of Chelsea:

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... full-back/
Who?
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:28 pm

Jambounchained wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:40 pm
We've apparently bid £8m for Piroe at Swansea.

Would be a hell of a signing - doubt we'd get him for anywhere under £10m though.
I agree, but he could be worth the extra 2-3 million if we can find it.

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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:29 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:24 pm
Probably crazy suggestion but I think we should try to land him permanently using the Collins money.

£10m - £15m fee with a buyback clause for City of, say, £25m if we're a Championship side or £35m if we're a Premier League side. Convince Delap by saying he'd be first choice here, 3 years + 1 year option in club's favour (can only be activated if we're Premier League) and allow him a release clause active 2 years into his deal if we're still in the Championship.
:lol:

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Post by clarethomer » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:29 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:25 pm
Especially like this goal TBF ;)

https://youtu.be/JkTJEhBbmXI?t=326
Always special when against them lot ha ha

2 goals and an assist in below game - His 2nd is very KDB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQa6DrcqxE

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:34 pm

Are we chasing both Delap and Piroe, or just whichever we can get first, both would be a surprise, although I suppose if Delap is only a loan it might be feasible.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:35 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:34 pm
Are we chasing both Delap and Piroe, or just whichever we can get first, both would be a surprise, although I suppose if Delap is only a loan it might be feasible.
Piroe was completely made up by an account with 16 followers.

Delap was tweeted by a guy with 9.6m followers.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:38 pm

This is the translated article from the Dutch press re Maatsen:

‘Ian Maatsen is definitely not coming to Feyenoord. The 20-year-old defender chooses Vincent Kompany's Burnley, which plays in the Championship. The coach, who has been active on Turf Moor since this summer, really wanted the Dutchman.

This is reported by Voetbal International. It is a hard blow for Feyenoord, Maatsen thought he had already received it by a hair. The left back therefore opts again for a rental period at the second level in England and ignores a Europa League campaign with Feyenoord.

Dennis te Kloese must now switch to alternatives. Earlier this week, the names of Mykola Matvienko and Dávid Hancko were mentioned. The arrival of the latter seems the most realistic, as Matvienko is said to cost fifteen million euros’

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:41 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:35 pm
Piroe was completely made up by an account with 16 followers.

Delap was tweeted by a guy with 9.6m followers.
But it’s still fun to imagine them both here :D

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:41 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:40 pm
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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:41 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:35 pm
Piroe was completely made up by an account with 16 followers.

Delap was tweeted by a guy with 9.6m followers.
Shows you can't believe everything you read on Twitter I guess. And Piroe doesn't really fir the model does he, whereas Delap certainly does fit the model.

I'll settle for Delap either on loan or permanent, as he strikers me )pun intended) as someone who'll score plenty in the Championship, especially now we'll finally have a functioning creative midfield, and we should expect to be on the front foot in most games all being well.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:44 pm

Maatsen has chosen us over Feynoord according to the Dutch press

https://twitter.com/Mkrabby/status/1547 ... en-burnley
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:44 pm

Maatsen would be on par with Twine for my signing of the summer so far.

He’s a very very good LB. Got to wonder what this means for Taylor.
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Post by claretandy » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:45 pm

Maatsen started 40 games for Coventry last season, seems strange to come here as back up unless Charlie is off.

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:46 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:38 pm
This is the translated article from the Dutch press re Maatsen:

‘Ian Maatsen is definitely not coming to Feyenoord. The 20-year-old defender chooses Vincent Kompany's Burnley, which plays in the Championship. The coach, who has been active on Turf Moor since this summer, really wanted the Dutchman.

This is reported by Voetbal International. It is a hard blow for Feyenoord, Maatsen thought he had already received it by a hair. The left back therefore opts again for a rental period at the second level in England and ignores a Europa League campaign with Feyenoord.

Dennis te Kloese must now switch to alternatives. Earlier this week, the names of Mykola Matvienko and Dávid Hancko were mentioned. The arrival of the latter seems the most realistic, as Matvienko is said to cost fifteen million euros’
Maatsen is a LB, and Forest have also been heavily linked today, it would suggest if he's signing, and with Dodgson signing a new 3 year deal, that Taylor might be on his way, because surely we don't need to be carrying 3 LB'S in the Championship.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:44 pm
Maatsen has chosen us over Feynoord according to the Dutch press

https://twitter.com/Mkrabby/status/1547 ... en-burnley
Lancaster you are usually quick but it’s all a few posts above ;)

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Post by joey13 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:46 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:44 pm
Maatsen would be on par with Twine for my signing of the summer so far.

He’s a very very good LB. Got to wonder what this means for Taylor.
Agreed

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:44 pm
Maatsen would be on par with Twine for my signing of the summer so far.

He’s a very very good LB. Got to wonder what this means for Taylor.
Yeah interesting one. If Chelsea are loaning him to us then they’ll want him to be starting.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:48 pm

So not only will the Burnley players be shaking the hands of the opposition this season, they'll be shaking the hands of each other to introduce themselves before each match.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:48 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:46 pm
Lancaster you are usually quick but it’s all a few posts above ;)
Ha!

Knew I should have checked

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:49 pm

Suggests that Maatsen will be a loan

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:55 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:34 pm
Are we chasing both Delap and Piroe, or just whichever we can get first, both would be a surprise, although I suppose if Delap is only a loan it might be feasible.
I read it as we enquired for Delap on loan a few weeks back but City want to sell with a buy back.

Clubs can only loan so many youngsters now I think or trying to get money off youth players to help with FFP?

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Post by Mattster » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:29 pm
:lol:
Unlikely, I know but that's what Southampton want to do with City only they'd want bigger buyback clauses* and would be less likely to offer the player a release clause or at least a lower one.

*They bought Lavia from City this window but the buyback in that deal £40m. We could undercut them on that.

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Post by boyyanno » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:58 pm

Delap and the full back look like decent additions, but somthing isn't stacking up here. Kompany himself said loans would be the last resort, now its being reported we're already after another 2.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:59 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:55 pm
I read it as we enquired for Delap on loan a few weeks back but City want to sell with a buy back.

Clubs can only loan so many youngsters now I think or trying to get money off youth players to help with FFP?
I didn’t read it like that to be fair. I think Fabrizio’s English at times isn’t perfect but he’s basically saying we’ve asked for him on loan, while Southampton are interested but only on permanent - therefore City need to decide what to do.

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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:25 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:57 pm
Unlikely, I know but that's what Southampton want to do with City only they'd want bigger buyback clauses* and would be less likely to offer the player a release clause or at least a lower one.

*They bought Lavia from City this window but the buyback in that deal £40m. We could undercut them on that.
Sorry mate, just thought the detail put into your contract proposals were amusing.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:27 pm

BuryClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:19 pm
The headline of this article reads 'Ian Maatsen chooses Burnley'

https://1908.nl/artikelen/maatsen-genie ... en-burnley
It either means Taylor is off or we’re looking to loan out Dodgson.

I’d assume Taylor will be off but happy to be proved wrong.

I’ll go with £5m to Leeds.

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Post by Mattster » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:28 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:25 pm
Sorry mate, just thought the detail put into your contract proposals were amusing.
Fair enough.

Just wanted to show how I thought we could beat out Southampton for a permanent deal as if I just said we could do it without putting some reasoning/context would sound unrealistic.

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Post by MACCA » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:39 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:27 pm
It either means Taylor is off or we’re looking to loan out Dodgson.

I’d assume Taylor will be off but happy to be proved wrong.

I’ll go with £5m to Leeds.
I heard this is a possibility, Taylor exiting that is, not necessarily to that club for that fee.

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Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:47 pm

MACCA wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:39 pm
I heard this is a possibility, Taylor exiting that is, not necessarily to that club for that fee.

No real surprise is it?

Any player that can command a fee under this regime will be ushered through the exit door and the announcement of Cornet's and McNeil's departures is just a matter of time.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:50 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:47 pm
No real surprise is it?

Any player that can command a fee under this regime will be ushered through the exit door and the announcement of Cornet's and McNeil's departures is just a matter of time.
And Roberts?

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Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:53 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:50 pm
And Roberts?
One of Roberts or Lowton will be going if we’ve got Egan Riley who can play there. Given we’d get more for Roberts, he’ll be the one sold.

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Post by Hipper » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:54 pm

Are these full backs or wing backs or can they play both?

Is it not possible we play with a full back and wing back?

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Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:57 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:53 pm
One of Roberts or Lowton will be going if we’ve got Egan Riley who can play there. Given we’d get more for Roberts, he’ll be the one sold.
Sorry, but how do you actually know this?

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:02 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:57 pm
Sorry, but how do you actually know this?
Wakey wakey

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Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:02 pm
Wakey wakey
So you're just guessing then?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

I thought we may send Dodgson out on loan , with a view to selling Taylor in January or replace him in the summer

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Post by bumba » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:05 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:53 pm
One of Roberts or Lowton will be going if we’ve got Egan Riley who can play there. Given we’d get more for Roberts, he’ll be the one sold.
Egan-Riley has been brought in as a centre back along with THB and McNally to replace tarky, Mee and Collins why is this so hard to understand?
How can signing 3 centre backs to replace 3 centre backs mean we're selling a right back?

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Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:07 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:05 pm
Egan-Riley has been brought in as a centre back along with THB and McNally to replace tarky, Mee and Collins why is this so hard to understand?
How can signing 3 centre backs to replace 3 centre backs mean we're selling a right back?
It gives certain posters a sense of self importance.

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Post by SGr » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:09 pm

I just don’t think we need to sell absolutely everybody. Like…surely not.

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:10 pm

Maatsen played LM for Coventry with 3 CBs.

THB played in a back 3 at Stoke and back 3 at Anderlecht (when Anderlecht switched to a 2, THB was dropped)

Mcnally played in a back 3 at Oxford.

Seems to me, we're gonna start with 3 at the back.

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:11 pm

Alex Crook reporting ohare deal moving quick

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Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:12 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:57 pm
Sorry, but how do you actually know this?
An educated guess based on the fact that we’ve got bills to pay. Given we’ve probably only got about £15m for Pope and Collins by the time you’ve taken out the various sell on fees and remaining transfer payments, it won’t be the end of it.
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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:12 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:11 pm
Alex Crook reporting ohare deal moving quick
We’ll get pipped at the line.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:14 pm

Sadly Alex Crook is clueless.

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Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:14 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:12 pm
An educated guess based on the fact that we’ve got bills to pay (not our bills I hasten to add, good ol’ Pacey’s bills, but his bills are our bills now and that’s for another thread). Given we’ve probably only got about £15m for Pope and Collins by the time you’ve taken out the various sell on fees and remaining transfer payments, it won’t be the end of it.
Just as I thought. You don't actually know.

You're entitled to your opinion though.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:15 pm

Please can we keep financial discussion off this thread.

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:15 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:11 pm
Alex Crook reporting ohare deal moving quick
Herein lies the potential upside of the Collins sale. A superb player, a price lower than I had hoped, but the ability now to press on with the players Kompany wanted.

I hope this is true - I think he’d be a proper crowd favourite.

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