ARTICLE: BT to screen cup tie

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:18 pm

minnieclaret wrote:We shouldn't be looking for CFS support to beat a non league time.

Wimbledon 1975

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:19 pm

Lets just ban the lot of them

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:22 pm

Sausage wrote:For those who keep shouting 'PRECEDENT!', we have actually done this before, chaps:

FA Cup third round in 1991 against Manchester City when season ticket holders were turfed out of the CFS (at a time when the CFS was home fans only) to accommodate the anticipated number of City fans. I don't recall that this set a precedent in 1992 when Derby, then riding high in the Second, visited Turf Moor on third round day. We didn't vacate the CFS in 1993 when Sheffield United (First Division) visited Turf Moor, nor did we do so in 1995 when Liverpool visited on fourth round day.

My view is that we should give Lincoln the entire CFS. If the club is going to charge the normal match-day prices as opposed to £10, I doubt we'll fill the ground anyway.

The difference being that we do under current rules have to give 15%. If we are planning on giving less than that - and the usual 2,600 is roughly 12% of our capacity I think - then we can only justify that on safety grounds. And if we don't invoke that rule now, we will not be able to suddenly adopt it for a quarter final. Either it is safe to give them more than 2,600 on the current ground configuration, or it isn't.

Don't give them the whole CFS - give them part of the Bob Lord.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:23 pm

Walton wrote:There most definitely are safety concerns though

There are most definitely very easy ways round any concerns. No concerns on the way into the ground, fans mingle then anyway. And if you have a desire to keep the fans apart after the match then just keep the Lincoln fans back 15 minutes and there's no problem.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:25 pm

It should either by part or whole of the CFS. Nothing else.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:27 pm

taio wrote:It should either by part or whole of the CFS. Nothing else.

There's no reason we can't give them all of it.

I can imagine the bleating on here if we get to the next round, get drawn at Man United, but only get the standard 3000 tickets.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:29 pm

martin_p wrote:There's no reason we can't give them all of it.

I can imagine the bleating on here if we get to the next round, get drawn at Man United, but only get the standard 3000 tickets.

That wouldn't be 15% though Martin.

Deardeary · Post by **Deardeary** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:29 pm

Can't believe some of the guff on here, they average 3000, our standard away allocation is 2300 tops, that's plenty. This "it's their day" ******** is garbage, QF at stake for Christs sake. Anyone would think we are Champions league club listening to the patronising Kak on here.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:31 pm

martin_p wrote:There's no reason we can't give them all of it.

I can imagine the bleating on here if we get to the next round, get drawn at Man United, but only get the standard 3000 tickets.

Yes there is - existing season ticket holders and atmosphere. But if we can't justify less than 15% then them having it all makes most sense.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:32 pm

I know this a second thread but Claret Tony as already pointed out that the Cricket field is the dedicated away stand and with Lincoln wanting to claim the maximum 15% they are entitled too they will get them, probably slightly more due to the segregation in there but its pointless holding back 900 tickets from them. CT also replied to I think it was Walton that the safety authorities and the police are happy that its safe. So I expect the announcement to be pretty straight forward Just Lincoln Fans in the cricket field.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:33 pm

Deardeary wrote: Anyone would think we are Champions league club listening to the patronising Kak on here.

A Champions League club would fill the ground and some of their fans wouldn't be desperate to have just 1,500 fans in the corner of the ground, Deardeary(me).

Edit - Sometimes 1,500, may I add.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:33 pm

taio wrote:Yes there is - existing season ticket holders and atmosphere. But if we can't justify less than 15% then them having it all makes most sense.

I meant no reason within the rules of the competition.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:34 pm

Deardeary wrote:Can't believe some of the guff on here, they average 3000, our standard away allocation is 2300 tops, that's plenty. This "it's their day" ******** is garbage, QF at stake for Christs sake. Anyone would think we are Champions league club listening to the patronising Kak on here.

They can stuff their day, but rules is rules!

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:37 pm

It would be a better all round atmosphere with 18400 on with 2400 Lincoln fans and 1500 Burnley fans in the CFS than it would be with 20000 on with 4000 Lincoln fans in the CFS.
Certainly it would be more homey atmosphere.
We are in it to win it, we owe nothing to any other club.
If they regularly got 5 or 6000 at home I'd sympathise but they get a max of 3000 at home probably 300 away whilst top of the league so 2400 away is like us getting 16000 away. When we take around 2000 on average.
They've already grumbled about how rubbish a draw it is for them at our shithole of a town So let the 2400 know why 'No one likes us' and it's on TV for the rest.
If we need a bigger away end capacity then build it above the Bob Lord Stand with a stand that can segregate
We need 20k home capacity at the maximum at the moment and 5000 away is the most we should ever give 20% of the ground.
The Chelsea crowd would be 25000 if that was our capacity with 5000 away fans accommodated
I think the FA Cup requires 10% for away fans
2400 complies with that.
Nobody has ever given a **** about us and wouldn't have cared if we'd gone out of existence.
Lincoln mean nothing to me but our progress in the FA CUP does.
This is not a foregone conclusion of a game and no advantage should be given to the opposition unnecessarily, we don't need their dosh.
Plus the CFSers deserve that to be theirs exclusively they have been massive, I was in their for 10 or so games last year and loved it.
Lincoln can **** off

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:37 pm

Rules are rules. And if they prevail so be it. But it's all this extra patronising guff about it being their day and them getting parts of other stands.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:42 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
I think the FA Cup requires 10% for away fans
2400 complies with that.

Mate, at least read some of the thread before posting your long diatribe. As stated by lots of people it's 15% so 2400 doesn't comply.

Stevebfc40 · Post by **Stevebfc40** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:43 pm

When the draw came out I fully expected Lincoln to be given the full end and didn't have a problem with that, it's their big day and would make for a great atmosphere. However I didn't take into account existing problems with separate side access, season ticket holders and the precedent it makes.

If we get through and imagine draw Boro. There is no way I'd want them in the full end. In my opinion we have to segregate as per league game, but we must fill the ground. Make it a tenner/ five again. If Lincoln want higher ticket prices, Burnley absorb the difference. It will be bad PR if there are empty seats on TV. It's not just Lincoln's day it's ours as well. Forget early ko and on TV, get on the game and fill OUR ground.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:43 pm

Give them the bob lord stand. :0
We can have whole of CFS that way.

Colleague at work reckons they have demand for 9000 tickets (Licoln fan btw)

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:45 pm

Maybe to make sure we get the CFS we should just give them the rest of the ground.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:47 pm

martin_p wrote:Mate, at least read some of the thread before posting your long diatribe. As stated by lots of people it's 15% so 2400 doesn't comply.

Yep just seen that on the other thread!
I blame duplicate threads....!
**** that ****** on my chips
Still annoyed at all this their big day out love in rubbish.

Ps looking up diatribe to see if it's a compliment ?

Oh not as bad as I thought....

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:49 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Give them the bob lord stand. :0
We can have whole of CFS that way.

Colleague at work reckons they have demand for 9000 tickets (Licoln fan btw)

Prior to last week they've only had 4 attendances over 5,000 this season, and their highest attendance was 7,012.

They can f*ck off, frankly.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:51 pm

I can't fathom all the ..... give em this, give em that, their big day etc.
Perhaps we should give them both dressing rooms so they can spread out & we'll get changed in the car park. Oh, and let them bring their own linesmen and perhaps let them chose our team and formation.
Jesus, it's a serious competition & a game we're trying to win not get a prize for "being nice".

Deardeary · Post by **Deardeary** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:57 pm

Like I said, patronising guff. Couldn't give a monkeys about being nice,

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:05 pm

If we have to give them a minimum of 3,300 then just give them the CFS. It is the least worst option. There is enough room in the ground to accommodate all ST holders and this is by far and away the easiest option for the club to manage. I would not give them any more; big day out or not.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:07 pm

Equally couldn't care less about their 'big day'. Hope they get minimum amount of tickets and suffer a heavy defeat!

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:07 pm

Man Utd in the semi final at Wembley and we are told we only average 18,000 at home so that's your lot, Man Utd average 70,000 so they can have 54,000. I am sure the argument of average home attendances would not work in our favour in that situation and our fans would be up in arms. Although I am a season ticket holder with over 5,000 points so why should I worry if Wembley is only 18,000 allocation due to our home attendances. Maybe some Lincoln supporters see the Burnley game as their Wembley day out? I await with interest what our great club decides. UTC and never forget H&S and European Law may have no bearing on the outcome of Lincexit!

BigAlClaret · Post by **BigAlClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:09 pm

Lincoln want to make money off this tie so don't ticket prices have to be agreed with them?If this is the case numbers sold to both sets of fans could be massively affected if prices were £10 or £30.What would demand be in the CFs at £30 say and would many ST holders bother? Surely if people are going to move seats happily then low prices must prevail.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:13 pm

martin_p wrote:As stated by lots of people it's 15% so 2400 doesn't comply.

No, it is "UP TO 15%", so 2400 does comply.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:14 pm

Play it behind closed doors and shut us all up.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:16 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:No, it is "UP TO 15%", so 2400 does comply.

Again, better if you read the thread. The visiting club can ask for up to 15% and we have to comply if possible. So it's only Lincoln who can decide they want less than 15%.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:21 pm

I think the club should take the Lincoln City players around Towneley Hall and a few of the famous sites & landmarks around the town.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:26 pm

martin_p wrote: up to 15% and we have to comply if possible. So it's only Lincoln who can decide they want less than 15%.

I have highlighted the important words in that sentence for you. I don't care what Lincoln want.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:27 pm

Why are you arguing over how many tickets Lincoln get? It's at home, we can all go and watch it. We'll end up giving them the whole proceeds from the gates, for sure.

Calm down it's only life.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:28 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:I have highlighted the important words in that sentence for you. I don't care what Lincoln want.

Neither do I. But we should abide by the rules just as we'd expect other clubs to do if the position were reversed.

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:36 pm

the only sensible solution here is to switch the tie to Sincil Bank...

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:00 pm

vinrogue wrote:Man Utd in the semi final at Wembley and we are told we only average 18,000 at home so that's your lot, Man Utd average 70,000 so they can have 54,000. I am sure the argument of average home attendances would not work in our favour in that situation and our fans would be up in arms. Although I am a season ticket holder with over 5,000 points so why should I worry if Wembley is only 18,000 allocation due to our home attendances. Maybe some Lincoln supporters see the Burnley game as their Wembley day out? I await with interest what our great club decides. UTC and never forget H&S and European Law may have no bearing on the outcome of Lincexit!

Wembley is a neutral ground, turf moor isn't. That's the luck of the draw. I'm more interested in getting through to the next round than helping Lincoln have a nice day!

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:01 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:I think the club should take the Lincoln City players around Towneley Hall and a few of the famous sites & landmarks around the town.

Does that include Big Window, cats whiskers and Greggs?

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:03 pm

I think that Lincoln fans will be fairly underwhelmed with coming to turf moor, as much as we're everything to us we hardly have the same attraction to opposition fans as Man U!!

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:17 pm

Wish the club would just announce what's going on and put everyone out of their misery. The delay would suggest there's some problems somewhere, or Lincoln aren't happy with what we've offered them.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:40 pm

martin_p wrote:Neither do I. But we should abide by the rules just as we'd expect other clubs to do if the position were reversed.

Exactly, we are playing by the rules if we say "we can give you a maximum of 2400 due to health and safety reasons.".

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:05 pm

******** to it. Give them both tiers of the longside and have done with it

claretjohn33505 · Post by **claretjohn33505** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:43 pm

Does any body know the numbers they take to "normal" away games?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:48 pm

lets hope we dont get millwall at home in the next round if we give lincoln a full home end of 4k

old trafford away in the quarter finals is our big day. not like theyd give is 60k is it (3x our home gates)

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:01 pm

Is it f**k as "their day". JFW.

It'll only be "their day" if they earn the right to call it that by beating us.
Tell you what, to be even more sporting, let's make Keane and Mee tie their
bootlaces together, eh?

Unbelievable.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:04 pm

How about we just ask if we can move the game to old Trafford and split it 37k each?

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:15 pm

Only read a bit of this crap. What is the point in giving them a **** load of tickets when the their is nowt in it for us. Give em 2600 and thats it.

Bloody hell can't believe you lot on here giving our money away. Our wage bill will be approaching 50 million there's about 50 grand, we need the money more than them, stuff em

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:13 pm

This was Lincoln's away following for their 3-0 defeat at a promotion challenger last week. They can seriously do one if they want loads of tickets.

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:17 pm

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Some (not all) Lincoln fans on this thread need a severe head wobble, and they clearly don't remember playing us in the fourth division.

They think we are comparable in size ffs

They can go **** themselves now, with there masses of support, who've been so loyal for years........

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:18 pm

To be fair to them Barrow away on a Tuesday night is an absolute nightmare for anyone.

holdyourfire · Post by **holdyourfire** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:22 pm

When i watched the draw,i said to myself,great draw at home to a non league team,thats the end of their run,lets get them beat,and get a decent draw in the last eight.Win that and its off to wembley,at least once.So bllockso to lincoln.UTC!