Swans versus Mighty Clarets

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:47 pm

Think we need to call Ghost Busters

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:47 pm

Boro board in meltdown if you need respite from this onslaught

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:47 pm

Swansea FK after a foul by Sigurdsson (according to ClaretsPlayer)

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:47 pm

Saints lead at Watford

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:47 pm

Miracle that we're level at HT.

Need changes badly.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:47 pm

Saints 2 - 1 v Watford

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:48 pm

How this is level at half-time is beyond me. That's the worst we've played in a long time (not counting Lincoln)

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:48 pm

Massive changes please Dyche.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:48 pm

I'd switch to a 5-1-4 and just hit it over the top.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:48 pm

Karanka still 3/1 to go next on PP, got a fiver on myself.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:49 pm

shame about defour,, this game would suit him and us as a 4-5-1

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:49 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Karanka still 3/1 to go next on PP, got a fiver on myself.

You can't bet on yourself being sacked surely.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:49 pm

If Leicester win you'd have to say the three relegation spots are all but confirmed. Sunderland, Hull & Boro.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:49 pm

No idea how we're level. Dyche HAS to make changes. Not expecting him to though

Robinson not in same league as Heaton. he's not bad, just shows how good Tom is

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Goalposts wrote:shame about defour,, this game would suit him and us as a 4-5-1

True. I'd be happy to see Westwood and Barton behind Hendrick slightly.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Absolutely atrocious half of football from us. How we are level I don't know. Something needs to change desperately otherwise it's a certain defeat.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Are we playing "rope a dope" tactics?

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Gray has looked far more effective than Vokes. But let's forget that and slam him some more.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:51 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:I'd switch to a 5-1-4 and just hit it over the top.

Who remembers the 4-2-4 formation. It probably only existed on computer games, but the way we lambast the ball forward, it may actually work.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:51 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:No idea how we're level. Dyche HAS to make changes. Not expecting him to though

Robinson not in same league as Heaton. he's not bad, just shows how good Tom is

To be fair, Robinson hasn't done much wrong. Made a couple of decent saves. Did well enough when he came in versus Man City as well.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:52 pm

Spijed wrote:If Leicester win you'd have to say the three relegation spots are all but confirmed. Sunderland, Hull & Boro.

Nope. We're not out of the woods yet. I said this the other week when we were 10 points clear. We're not clear enough to count ourselves out.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:52 pm

Ultimately I think we will lose if we don't play 5 in the midfield in the second half. The problem though is if we take off Vokes the ball is just going to bounce off of Gray and give Swansea even more possession, but if we take off Gray our ability to counter attack is vastly limited as well as defending from set-pieces.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:53 pm

What's up with Keane & Mee?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:53 pm

as it stands Fleetwood are in the top 2 in League 1 !! That's incredible

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:53 pm

Positivity lads.
We've been ****, but still in it, and unlike Watford Dyche can do his team talk before it's too late.
My big fear is that the ref is going to give them a soft penalty just to make up for his mistake.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:53 pm

Robinson to me looks very shaky

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:54 pm

Spijed wrote:What's up with Keane & Mee?

Perhaps missing Heaton?

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:54 pm

Passing accuracy
Swansea 83% - Burnley 70%

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:54 pm

Pretty awful stuff, this Dyche football and system really screws us away from home. We lack any sort of composure with the ball, panic football. We need to try and control the midfield areas more, push up the pitch, work it out wide and bang crosses in to Vokes. We can't control the game/midfield when the defensive line is so deep. Press up the pitch, compact the midfield, make the gap between the midfield and forward line smaller otherwise we have absolutely no chance.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:55 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Ultimately I think we will lose if we don't play 5 in the midfield in the second half. The problem though is if we take off Vokes the ball is just going to bounce off of Gray and give Swansea even more possession, but if we take off Gray our ability to counter attack is vastly limited as well as defending from set-pieces.

I'd take Gray off over Vokes. The likes of Hendrick can do something with the ball on the ground, and we also have Vokes to help defend later on if needs be.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:56 pm

Here's Madge to add some despite!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:56 pm

Llorente and Sigurdsson offer absolutely no threat running in behind, push the defensive line high.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:57 pm

Top priority this summer is a striker who's comfortable and competent playing up front on his own.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:57 pm

We need the height of Vokes at set pieces but he's offering nothing to our play. I would take Vokes off and bring Tarkowski on and go 4-5-1, that way we have the extra man in midfield and retain the height for set pieces. I'd also bring Arfield on for Brady

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:58 pm

You say make changes but we're already down to our bare bones and tbh not much left on the bench to readily effect the game

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:58 pm

Right, second half second chance. Show us you know how to fix this Sean and we'll say no more about that first half

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:58 pm

Passing accuracy of just over 60% (Swansea over 80%) shows our weakness - we just can't hang on to the ball long enough to take some control in the game
Their 5 man midfield is in charge but SD won't change unless we are losing

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:59 pm

KRBFC wrote:Llorente and Sigurdsson offer absolutely no threat running in behind, push the defensive line high.

Spot on

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:00 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Their 5 man midfield is in charge but SD won't change unless we are losing

Normally that's been the case but he has made some positive changes and surprised us in recent weeks, so he might be learning. I hope so anyway.

Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:01 pm

Brady's passing has been terrible

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:01 pm

KRBFC wrote:Llorente and Sigurdsson offer absolutely no threat running in behind, push the defensive line high.

no chance, Narsingh and Olsson would destroy us even more than they are doing

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:01 pm

Vokes off, Westwood on...surely!!!???
Seems utterly obvious

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:02 pm

players out for a very interesting 2nd half methinks!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:03 pm

Poor half. Defensively we look so much weaker with Brady in front of Ward. Narsingh is having a field day.

Vokes has offered nothing, but our forward balls have been very poor. We're lacking any kind of composure which is surprising with Barton and Hendrick in the middle.

I expect there'll be a tweak to the system rather than the personnel at half time. We need a better half than that though if we want to take a point.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:03 pm

no changes

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:03 pm

Unbelievable we haven't made any changes. And yes, I remember Dyche is our manager. It's almost inviting Swansea to take the 3 points. Watch the 2nd half start exactly the same as the entire 1st half.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:04 pm

burnley007 wrote:Vokes off, Westwood on...surely!!!???
Seems utterly obvious

Vokes for Tarks imho, we retain the height at set pieces then

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:04 pm

whey vokes shoots and misses

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:04 pm

Vokes has offered literally zilch. Can't even argue he's helping defend set pieces seen as they are winning every header there too.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:04 pm

burnley007 wrote:Vokes off, Westwood on...surely!!!???
Seems utterly obvious

With the quality of delivery Sigurdsson offers and our Achilles heel being defending set pieces I wouldn't expect to see Vokes depart any time soon.