Downing St Press Conference

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:26 am

The saddest thing about all this is that we've got ourselves into a situation where it's acceptable for grown adults to say things like "Brexiteers" and "Remainers" as if they're types of Pokémon.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:26 am

See the personal attacks on Farron are in full swing.

Got to keep off policies will be the message from Murdoch to his masses, stick to smears

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:36 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:You've got no idea how democracy works Ringo.

Not. A. Scooby.

No one is being undemocratic, not May, not Farron, not Corybn, not even the guy who runs UKIP. I do wish you'd grasp this concept.

I understand exactly how democracy works fella.

That's why I agree with and independent Scotland IF it votes for independence. I'm consistent and democratic unlike many Remoaners who DON'T agree with Scottish Independence.

Address my point about the contract we had that stated the GOVERNMENT will carry out our wishes.

Also when you have the likes of the war criminal Tony Bliar, already conniving to build a movement to try and reverse the referendum result in the forthcoming GE, as a Remoaner, you have to accept you on the side of the dark forces of anti democracy.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:41 am

Again, you don't have a clue.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:44 am

"Remoaner" - another one. Grown adults saying "Remoaner". Can't get my head around it.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:51 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Spijed wrote:
But they didn't get plastered all over a bus!
Where is the £350 million that was promised for the NHS by Farage, Boris & co.?

It was plastered all over the side of a bus, and was one of the most iconic images of the campaign. Whether or not Farage actually ever used those words I can't be bothered to research, but he was certainly more than happy to stand in front of the slogan and endorse it.
Spijed refered to "Farage, Boris and Co". he didn't specifically attribute the slogan to Farage. I'm not sure who on the "leave" campaign actually came up with it.
Much has been made of Osborne's "emergency budget".
But this was one person's opinion and was never particularly endorsed by the Remain" campaign or adopted as a campaign slogan.

EDIT: Here you go. It didn't actually take hardly any finding:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02831.html

HEADLINE :Video evidence has emerged of Nigel Farage saying EU cash should be spent on the National Health Service after Brexit.

The Ukip leader on Friday morning denied having endorsed a pledge to spend Britain’s EU contribution on the NHS just hours after the referendum results came in. ....................
.........However footage from BBC Question Time on 9 June – just weeks before the referendum – shows the Ukip leader claiming the available cash was higher than £350 million and saying money should be spent on hospitals and GPs.

“Can we just get to the truth of this - £350 million a week is wrong, it’s higher than that,” he told the programme’s audience.

If you open the link you can even watch the video.

Thats a no then.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:02 am

SammyBoy wrote:He's clearly not got a full deck, I don't know why people bother engaging with him any more. Ringo is so wrapped up in treachery and intrigue he'd be more at home in a Shakespeare play.

Tony Bliar, the war criminal and former labour party leader is openly espousing that people vote for whichever party has more chance of overturning the referendum result. Even if it means voting against his OWN party!

May be not shakespearian. But certainly Machiavellian.

And by the way, I'm playing with a full deck mate. Perhaps it's you that's the joker?!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:04 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Again, you don't have a clue.

You haven't got an answer

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:10 am

You only need to research "Democracy" Ringo. Its not hard.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:11 am

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:The saddest thing about all this is that we've got ourselves into a situation where it's acceptable for grown adults to say things like "Brexiteers" and "Remainers" as if they're types of Pokémon.

I can't work out if your comment is sadly ironic or subtle genius

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:24 am

I'm having no fun at all with my "Brexiteers Go" App put it that way.

The catch phrase of "gotta catch them all" is perfect for this thread though!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:24 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:You only need to research "Democracy" Ringo. Its not hard.

Nice attempt at a swerve. One more try.

The 9million pamphlet that went to every household.

Come on you remember. It stated -"This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide."

The referendum gave them a democratic mandate to carry out the process WITHOUT reference to parliament.

And I know very recently you stated you'd continue your fight against the result. But come on. argue against it if you like. But you'll be arguing against democracy.

You know like I do the likes of Starmer, Benn , Clegg Farron, Gina miller, Clarke and Bliar are all you cheer leaders and want stop democracy by pushing for the trip wire that is a vote on any deal achieved.

The contract said GOVERNMENT not PARLIAMENT.

One more try Lancs. Go on tiger give it your undemocratic best!

Grrrrrr!

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:28 am

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:29 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:And by the way, I'm playing with a full deck mate. Perhaps it's you that's the joker?!

come on ringo lad, 13 minutes to come up with that weak effort?

standards are slipping.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:30 am

https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And democracy is more than just a one off vote. Thats the point I'm making. Its more than just voting, it about far more than that.

You are not thick, so why can't you acknowledge that?

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:30 am

RingoMcCartney wrote: The contract

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:34 am

Damo wrote:I can't work out if your comment is sadly ironic or subtle genius

Sadly genius.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:37 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/

And democracy is more than just a one off vote. Thats the point I'm making. Its more than just voting, it about far more than that.

You are not thick, so why can't you acknowledge that?

It's not more than just a one off vote, Lancaster - you snowflake, you. SUCK IT UP AND GET ON WITH IT, exactly like the Leave voters would've.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:54 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/

And democracy is more than just a one off vote. Thats the point I'm making. Its more than just voting, it about far more than that.

You are not thick, so why can't you acknowledge that?

Oh no. Not the "it was advisory" old chestnut !

Oh well I'll sign off for now matey.

No doubt they'll be more chance to chat between now and the general election.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:00 pm

If it be your will wrote:I quite like Ringo's posts. They remind you what you will become if you allow yourself to be consumed by pure hate.

By the age of 20, if your not a socialist. You have no heart.

By the age of 40, if your not conservative. You have no brain

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:01 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:come on ringo lad, 13 minutes to come up with that weak effort?

standards are slipping.

You can't rush quality pal!

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:04 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:You can't rush quality pal!

is that why we've been waiting over a year for you to post some?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:06 pm

Sure we will Ringo!

Do us a favour though, just have a quick read on meaning of democracy whilst you are away eh?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:11 pm

I thought this thread had bottomed out when someone mentioned Pokemon...

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:24 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/opin ... p=cur&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Massively depressing reading but so so accurate from across the pond.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Sure we will Ringo!

Do us a favour though, just have a quick read on meaning of democracy whilst you are away eh?

Absolutely! Hopefully I'll see you there too!!

Toodle pip.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:27 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Ins't this the same rag that implied Sean Dyche was a right wing xenophobe?

No, unless you didn't read the article and just jumped to a strange conclusion. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/sp ... ecause-hes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:27 pm

Just so we know, is this General Election advisory only?
Before someone gets the result they don't want

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:28 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:is that why we've been waiting over a year for you to post some?

All good things come to he who waits my friend.

Any news on when you might be making your debut yet!?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:29 pm

Damo wrote:Just so we know, is this General Election advisory only?
Before someone gets the result they don't want

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:29 pm

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:06 pm

Just gonna make a prediction right now that leftists will riot and organise mass protests when labour lose this election.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:42 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Just gonna make a prediction right now that leftists will riot and organise mass protests when labour lose this election.

All of them?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:50 pm

One thing this election will not do is "unite the country".

That will only happen if May manages to steer away from a Hard Brexit into something that the 48% can live with.

Of course, that might not suit large chunks of the 52%, but we will see!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:38 pm

I see Ken Clarke is standing again.

This shows the hypocrisy of the Conservatives. He's a staunch remainer yet why hasn't he been kicked out of the party?

According to Teresa May everyone should now get behind brexit so why doesn't she just expel him?

Double standards at its very best!

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:01 pm

Spijed wrote:I see Ken Clarke is standing again.

This shows the hypocrisy of the Conservatives. He's a staunch remainer yet why hasn't he been kicked out of the party?

According to Teresa May everyone should now get behind brexit so why doesn't she just expel him?

Double standards at its very best!

Could you imagine the fur ore if she expelled the father of the house and longest serving MP ?

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:22 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:One thing this election will not do is "unite the country".

That will only happen if May manages to steer away from a Hard Brexit into something that the 48% can live with.

Of course, that might not suit large chunks of the 52%, but we will see!

With a decent majority she has more chance of a 'softer Brexit', whatever that is though....

I'm not sure what would unite the country, but I know it's not Remainers in the Commons or Lords trying to halt any sort of Brexit. I don't think May had a lot of choice when trying to instil the will of the people.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:49 pm

Simply, a Brexit that isn't either stupidly hard or a basic remain.

You'd think it wouldn't be that hard for a bunch of professional politicians to work out would you?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:11 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:The Conservative MP's who are against Brexit, and particularly a hard Brexit, should stand up for their beliefs and resign from the party immediately.

The Tory party is now one of the most extreme political parties in Europe, where moderation and sense are now considered unacceptable traits.

If you're not a swivel-eyed lunatic completely devoted to the Cult that is Brexit, you're the enemy.

Jesus

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:19 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Simply, a Brexit that isn't either stupidly hard or a basic remain.

You'd think it wouldn't be that hard for a bunch of professional politicians to work out would you?

Would be if they worked together.....

USC · Post by **USC** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:28 pm

Wait till Ringo finds out what Gina's been to to today. He's going to be livid.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:35 pm

This forum will be a much quieter place when Ringo's carer finally catches him.

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:32 pm

USC wrote:Wait till Ringo finds out what Gina's been to to today. He's going to be livid.

If she's that insistent on shaping the political future of this country she should stand for office!

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:38 pm

Caballo wrote:If she's that insistent on shaping the political future of this country she should stand for office!

I can see the slogan already "Vote Gin A M for PM."

Well it's the best I can do.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:54 pm

Her latest publicity hungry hissy fit proves all along that she's motivated, not by ensuring democracy and fair scrutiny and parliamentary process.

Purely preserving her privilege and kept in clover lifestyle.

This is smug foreign born millionairess oozes entitlement. She's just another of a long line of lying Remoaners.

She should stand for election.

Her campaign slogan could be "Vote for Gina" But say it quick enough it's sounds like "Vote Vagina" which is what you'd be voting for!!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:56 pm

lying?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:58 pm

Gets more swivel-eyed each time she's mentioned.
You wouldn't think it possible.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:02 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:By the age of 20, if your not a socialist. You have no heart.

By the age of 40, if your not conservative. You have no brain

Ouch!

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:04 pm

Ringo has photos of Gina Miller under his pillow.