50 years since decriminalisation of homosexuality

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:11 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Set rules to follow - created approximately 2k and 1500 years ago respectively.
A very different time and some take following those rules to the extreme in both religions.

Its 2017 and you've got to be a real moron to not understand that homosexuality can be how someone is born and not a choice, yet people seem to struggle with this the most.

The mindset of homophobia is a direct result of conditioning from hundreds of years of religion telling everyone that homosexuality is a sin etc.

Uber religious people need to be more open minded and understand there are people who don't live by the rules a book has told them to live their lives.

You know what, Sidney - and this isn't a dig whatsoever - it really shouldn't matter even if someone did choose to be gay.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:22 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Set rules to follow - created approximately 2k and 1500 years ago respectively.
A very different time and some take following those rules to the extreme in both religions.

Its 2017 and you've got to be a real moron to not understand that homosexuality can be how someone is born and not a choice, yet people seem to struggle with this the most.

The mindset of homophobia is a direct result of conditioning from hundreds of years of religion telling everyone that homosexuality is a sin etc.

Uber religious people need to be more open minded and understand there are people who don't live by the rules a book has told them to live their lives.

I am open minded but it's a genetic disorder and I feel sorry for those that have this condition,it's not natural.I don't have a problem with Gay people to a point but it's not normal and shouldn't be promoted so in my opinion.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:24 pm

You should be sterilised.

Don't take offence though, its just my opinion.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:26 pm

It could be religion, politics, upbringing; several factors. All man made and socially manipulated. Ironic that those with a problem when it comes to homosexuality, can't see that it's them with the unnatural response.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:26 pm

Flatline wrote:I am open minded but it's a genetic disorder and I feel sorry for those that have this condition,it's not natural.I don't have a problem with Gay people to a point but it's not normal and shouldn't be promoted so in my opinion.

That's not sounding much like an open mind.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:27 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:You know what, Sidney - and this isn't a dig whatsoever - it really shouldn't matter even if someone did choose to be gay.

No need to worry about it being a dig, I'm a straight white bloke, I just happen to know a number of gay people.

Yes someone can choose to be gay, but at a guess they probably were in the first place but struggled to come to terms with it first, bit like Gareth Thomas.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:30 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:You should be sterilised.

Don't take offence though, its just my opinion.

Very liberal of you!

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:31 pm

Let's say you're right for a nano second, and it is a 'genetic disorder'. How does it follow, to say it shouldn't be 'promoted'? It's a contradiction right off the bat. I don't think ginger hair should be promoted, but tell me why I'm wrong.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Sidney1st wrote:No need to worry about it being a dig, I'm a straight white bloke, I just happen to know a number of gay people.

Yes someone can choose to be gay, but at a guess they probably were in the first place but struggled to come to terms with it first, bit like Gareth Thomas.

I know a few gay people also,sound as a pound.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:35 pm

Flatline wrote:I know a few gay people also,sound as a pound.

Apart from having, in your opinion, a genetic disorder?

Have you ever told them your true opinion of them?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:35 pm

Think you might be missing my point.

Which is not a shock to be honest.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:36 pm

Jesus wept why wouldn't a gay person be 'sound'. It's equally as ridiculous as saying "I have a few mates who are straight, and they're all nice people" The assertion then, is that they're 'alright' despite their sexuality.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:36 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Apart from having, in your opinion, a mental disorder?

Have you ever told them your true opinion of them?

I think they already know to be honest.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:36 pm

Yet they still talk to you?

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:37 pm

How is being gay being promoted? You can't promote a "genetic disorder".

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:39 pm

willsclarets wrote:Jesus wept why wouldn't a gay person be 'sound'. It's equally as ridiculous as saying "I have a few mates who are straight, and they're all nice people" The assertion then, is that they're 'alright' despite their sexuality.

I'm being made out to think that by people like you!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:41 pm

Ringo has got serious competition here

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:44 pm

That's nonsense, you wouldn't feel the need to qualify they were sound as a pound otherwise. I wouldn't even mind quite so much if 'people like you' admitted it was a social prejudice, but to bend science and claim authority over biological fact is just irritating.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:45 pm

Flatline wrote:I'm being made out to think that by people like you!

Gay people have a genetic disorder followed by you know some who're sound...

You've got some real issues.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:46 pm

willsclarets wrote:That's nonsense, you wouldn't feel the need to qualify they were sound as a pound otherwise. I wouldn't even mind quite so much if 'people like you' admitted it was a social prejudice, but to bend science and claim authority over biological fact is just irritating.

Yep. This. It's the desperate clawing at absolutely anything to justify their prejudice. Irritating, like you say.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:53 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Ringo has got serious competition here

Look at the liberals come out of the woodwork,someone has a different view on things and you get so offended.I haven't said anything that the vast majority of people think,it's okay to talk to people who live in the real world,even the gays aren't that bothered.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:55 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Gay people have a genetic disorder followed by you know some who're sound...

You've got some real issues.

Like what?

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:55 pm

Flatline wrote:Look at the liberals come out of the woodwork,someone has a different view on things and you get so offended.I haven't said anything that the vast majority of people think,it's okay to talk to people who live in the real world,even the gays aren't that bothered.

It's not about being liberal and illiberal - it's about identifying when someone's talking shite.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:57 pm

Whose offended?

You are so full of **** its just funny letting make a complete prick of yourself.

Keep going, like the other people just like you do on here on a very regular basis.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:59 pm

Flatline wrote:Look at the liberals come out of the woodwork,someone has a different view on things and you get so offended.I haven't said anything that the vast majority of people think,it's okay to talk to people who live in the real world,even the gays aren't that bothered.

Its not just the fact you have a different view, its how backwards your view is.

What religion do you follow?

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:01 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Whose offended?

You are so full of **** its just funny letting make a complete prick of yourself.

Keep going, like the other people just like you do on here on a very regular basis.

Well you did say I should be sterilized,sounds like something you always bang on about,hypocrite springs to mind.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:03 pm

Flatline, I'm sure despite this you're sound as a pound. I can see that it's a pretty futile conversation, but did you ever stop to think why you think the way you do? When you say it's a genetic disorder, why do you think that? Just read this for a starter.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... html%3Famp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you don't agree with it that's one thing but don't cloak it with untruths.
By the way, I'm not saying that link is definitive I just doubt you've ever read anything that opposes your opinion on the world

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:03 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Its not just the fact you have a different view, its how backwards your view is.

What religion do you follow?

Only backwards in your own mind doesn't make it so.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:05 pm

Again, you are missing the point I was making in that post.

Do I really have to spell it out for you, or can you actually work it out for yourself?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:06 pm

Flatline wrote:Only backwards in your own mind doesn't make it so.

So why is it backward in my mind and not yours?

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:08 pm

willsclarets wrote:Flatline, I'm sure despite this you're sound as a pound. I can see that it's a pretty futile conversation, but did you ever stop to think why you think the way you do? When you say it's a genetic disorder, why do you think that? Just read this for a starter.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... html%3Famp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you don't agree with it that's one thing but don't cloak it with untruths.

That's contradicting what Sydney an others have said when they mocked ablueclaret.You lot need to get your facts straight before you have a pop at me.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:10 pm

What is it contradicting?

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:10 pm

Be specific.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:10 pm

Sidney1st wrote:So why is it backward in my mind and not yours?

You tell me Sydney,seen as you know everything?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:14 pm

Flatline wrote:You tell me Sydney,seen as you know everything?

*Sidney.

I don't know everything, but saying homosexuality is a genetic disease in the 21st century is going against the work done by science to prove it isn't genetic.

You're the one going against science.

Which religion do you follow, you didn't answer it earlier?

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:19 pm

Sidney1st wrote:*Sidney.

I don't know everything, but saying homosexuality is a genetic disease in the 21st century is going against the work done by science to prove it isn't genetic.

You're the one going against science.

Which religion do you follow, you didn't answer it earlier?

What science are you talking about,what hundreds of scientists say or what hundreds of other scientists say?
You've misquoted me also I've noticed,I said genetic disorder.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:24 pm

It's proven through time that being gay is a weakness of evolution and no species will thrive on the back of it.

Saying that the world is over populated especially our tiny isle so you can see why the powers in charge now push it so hard.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:27 pm

Unless of course you were Spartan.....

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:27 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:It's proven through time that being gay is a weakness of evolution and no species will thrive on the back of it.

Saying that the world is over populated especially our tiny isle so you can see why the powers in charge now push it so hard.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand goodnight.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:28 pm

Flatline wrote:I am open minded but it's a genetic disorder and I feel sorry for those that have this condition,it's not natural.I don't have a problem with Gay people to a point but it's not normal and shouldn't be promoted so in my opinion.

What's more of a genetic disorder...being attracted to someone of the same sex or believing in Father Christmas or god?

I feel sorry for people like you. Brainwashed.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:28 pm

Wait, is Flatline a geneticist? I've not been following the thread today but if Flatline's a geneticist and he says it's a genetic disorder then i guess we should defer to his more qualified opinion than the opinions of other scientists who have conducted research.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:29 pm

Flatline wrote:What science are you talking about,what hundreds of scientists say or what hundreds of other scientists say?
You've misquoted me also I've noticed,I said genetic disorder.

It still isn't a genetic disorder.

Science in general is doing what it does best.
Researching, investigating and being open minded.
They're slowly proving there is no gay gene so it can't be a disorder.

Its just how someone is born.

Which religion do you follow?
Its amusing to watch you dodge this question.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:29 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Wait, is Flatline a geneticist?

Nah, they're just a little special.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:What's more of a genetic disorder...being attracted to someone of the same sex or believing in Father Christmas or god?

I feel sorry for people like you. Brainwashed.

You're the brainwashed one sadly,I feel sorry for you.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:32 pm

Flatline wrote:You're the brainwashed one sadly,I feel sorry for you.

Please light a candle for me.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:45 pm

Evolved from ape . Ape sometime bum other Ape. Introduce false idols when Ape learn a bit . Introduce law when Ape learn a bit .
Still sometimes Ape bum other Ape.

We need to jump down off the pedestal and realise we have (fastracked) down the evolutionary line at astonishing speed with a fatal degree of self importance.

We have lost ourselves through the quest for knowledge, riches and (smart phones).

I'm off to sleep in my tree house in the woods.

I'm throwing my phone in the river tomorrow to catch fish.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:47 pm

Thankfully people are generall more open minded these days but if course nature didn't intend this as the norm or the population would have died out.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:50 pm

If nature didn't intend this as the norm why has it occurred since as far back as society can remember/record?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:58 pm

Flatline is terrified that he would find dicks delicious

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:01 am

Spiral wrote:You'd do well to go beyond attempting to make sense of the world in such binary terms. A not-insignificant number of the people you describe as immigrants could be better describes as refugees fleeing such barbarism.

Of course a proportion of them may be, whilst others will bring their war to our towns and cities.